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Blimey Sean.......why not say what's really on your mind? :giggle:
:thumbup: by the way kiss
Well you certainly know how to make an entrance!!! :shock:
Firstly, I think the reason your not getting any is because of you attitude. The number of single men on here far outways the couples and the single fems, so your already on an uphill battle.
Add to that you seem to believe that other members should be queuing up to gratify you. Think about it. If you were a single female swinger, would you choose to swing with a guy who believed in respect and mutual satisfaction or with a bloke who wanted a quick shag to satisfy his own sexual desires? rolleyes
Secondly WFT has directing and non directing got to do with whether people are swinging or not dunno
Do you believe that if people who didn't want to be directed on cam were forced to put up with being directed against their wishes then there'd be more swinging going on? :dunno:
Can anyone explain the link between the directing thing and how that makes a difference to whether or not people swing because I just don't get it confused
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Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way .....There are more single males on this site than couples and single females so you are going to find it harder as you have more competition than anyone else so you need work harder to get to know people...This is not a quick shag site!
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy....As with alot of other sites
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht ....Think your very wrong. Has been quoted before people keep their private lives to themselves so your not going to know what other people do away from the site. There are alot of social gathers (munches) happening all year round, i suggest get yourself known and go to one.
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact....And how else do you expect other people to meet!. Thats what a chatroom/forum is for....People can find what and who they are looking for and arrange to meet.
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????....Alot of people put the cam on to just chat so you can see a face behind the keyboard kinda thing, the last thing you want is for some muppet coming in the room and saying 'get your tits out'
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!...ALL sites need policing somehow or the site would be full up with idiots. Newcomers are always given a warm welcome and given help if needed.
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????....The NO DIRECTING is put there for a reason because the people do not want to be directed while they perform on cam (and yes there are people that enjoy performing).
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT?? rolleyes

It sounds to me firstly you obviously havn't had a 'shag' from this site so your pissed off with that....secondly you must have directed someone in the chatroom that was a 'no directing' room and got kicked for it...and thirdly you don't want just a chatroom but a chatroom where you can direct people without getting kicked.
This has been covered too many times in the forum by single males ranting about this site and the last thing we want is for another one with the same attitude as you. Good luck with your quest.
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Needles to say that POSHKATE's response answered no questions at all and was probably the one I would have expected ie bugger off if not happy .
Disregarding the obvious ,I thank all other intelligent life forms for keeping a good discussion going.

actually, poshkate did answer your questions. do you have trouble reading or understanding?
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well it appears that this site and the way that it works is not what you are looking......as thats the case don't u think it would be better to try and find a site which is what ur lookin for rather than just whinging?

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i am not a regular chatroom user (cos i'm scared).........but i don't understand why u find it esential to have the ability to direct people.........many people use rooms like that for that exact purpose.
as for the site........in my opinion its great........so no worries there either

perfectly reasonable responses i feel, so why you feel the need to disrespect her so is beyond me.
yet another single male digging himself a grave, suffice to say that if you had no luck in connecting with people prior to this post....you certainly wont have any following it.
Dear John
I agree with you 100% - they are all just 'talkers' here... especially all of the bisexual single, pussy and cock obsessed females - you just can't shut them up (when they don't have your cock in their mouth) talking about cock, shoes, shopping and clothes once you have seven of them in bed with you but hey, there's a price to pay! confused
If you want to come to Newcastle at any point to meet some real swingers, please do... we don't expect talk (except filthy, dirty smut) and are happy to be directed.
Furthermore, if you can shut up for just a moment and stop talking out of your arse, we will be happy to teach you what it's really for :twisted: And please take a breath, chill out and relax, it hurts if you don't! :thumbup:
Love Bloke x
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Dear John
I agree with you 100% - they are all just 'talkers' here... especially all of the bisexual single, pussy and cock obsessed females - you just can't shut them up (when they don't have your cock in their mouth) talking about cock, shoes, shopping and clothes once you have seven of them in bed with you but hey, there's a price to pay! confused
If you want to come to Newcastle at any point to meet some real swingers, please do... we don't expect talk (except filthy, dirty smut) and are happy to be directed.
Furthermore, if you can shut up for just a moment and stop talking out of your arse, we will be happy to teach you what it's really for :twisted: And please take a breath, chill out and relax, it hurts if you don't! :thumbup:
Love Bloke x

rotflmao :giggle:
I can't really add anymore than what other people have said about the chatroom as i hardly go in there.....but just one thing that pisses me off is that some people have this "take take take" attitude and never want to give anything back.....you get back what you put in on this site and having only done 9 posts and the last few being whinges your goner go far! rolleyes
I don't use the chat rooms for anything other than chatting so I can't really speak from experience but thinking about it from a purely logistical side, if you have one person on cam and, say, ten people watching (I don't know if that's a fair ratio or not), which director is that one person to listen to if they all say to do something different?
There are plenty of rooms, surely if you don't like what is on display in one you can find another that pleases?
H.X
whats the H for rolleyes
rolleyes oh look, its the trademark :roll:
:roll:
do I know you
probably not luv, i'm not in Bedfordshire.
rolleyes
Quote by john60
Needles to say that POSHKATE's response answered no questions at all and was probably the one I would have expected ie bugger off if not happy .
Disregarding the obvious ,I thank all other intelligent life forms for keeping a good discussion going.

You might want to read the AUP before you make any more insulting comments such as the one above.
I can't even be bothered to qualify your original post with any kind of explanation/advice because I don't think you will ever quite understand what the site is about. I'm pretty confident that you've thrown any chance of a shag out of the window, too. confused
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I can't even be bothered to qualify your original post with any kind of explanation/advice because I don't think you will ever quite understand what the site is about. I'm pretty confident that you've thrown any chance of a shag out of the window, too. confused

It was this bit I found particularly offensive:
Quote by john60
Poshkate -you implicate that you are shy ..........I can bet you have enjoyed some other guy making direct instructions at the risk of gettinng booted?
Making sense ???

I can bet you she hasn't John.
Assumptions and expectations are letting you down big style , that, and being a complete arse.
Piece of meat anyone?
Oh dammit, I was staying out of this thread wasnt I lol
Hi John and welcome to the celibate swingers society rolleyes
Quote by john60
Since joining late 2005 I expected to be inundated with masses of people wanting sex with me..Woh ..How wrong I apperently dont work that way ...
1) I found out very quickly that SW is very much an exhibitionist site in which you view and enjoy.
2) Not much actual "swinging" take place -most of the site is chit caht
3) Chat rooms are fun but are really like the old guys CB ( citizens banb radio) ie where are u ,how old are u etc exept with the twist of show uz ur jugs / conna cum now type carp
You may enjoy it is not exactly direct people contact
2) Surely people who wish to have sex or exploit themselves on the internet must realise that other people will want to manipulate them for thier own wise there is no purpose in SWINGERS HEAVEN????
3) It is very,repeat very easy to get "booted" by Gestapo style observers who apperently seem to choose their own style and method of policeing their is no consistency....Newcomers beware!!!!
4) I get very , very p****ed off with people who want to see people wank off /f***k /and commit buggery on cam and yet they are sanctamonious enough to believe they are doing a servive by putting " NO DIRECTION" on a chatroom WHY??????
5) THere is too much Non Directing in this site ------it will soon become just another chat site...IS THAT WHAT WE WANT??

sorry but got to say i have never read so much rubbish in all my life, this is a prime example of the typical single man who joins the site and expects all the women to come running to him and because they havn't of course the site don't work!!
I for one know this site does work as i have met many many people off here, ok so i'm not saying that i have had sex with everyone i have met but to be honest i don't think anyone expects to click with every single person they meet, but b4 you sit there saying the site users just use it for chit chat cause noone wants to meet you remeber no all of us have had that experience wink
you get out of it what you put into it maybe you should make more of a effort to meet people. go to a few socials etc and remeber most people on here are single guys and couples with bi females so there isn't much of a call for single men and for those women and couples that do meet single guys they really can pick and choose cause of the sheer number of them you really have to stand out!!
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blah, blah,blah

In his defence, you got to admire the way he's combined his name and IQ for a username :thumbup:
I have put on a show a couple of times- though not for a while.
I did it because I felt like it, and did so in a room where it was not likely to upset others wanting to just chat- perfectly reasonable IMHO in a chatroom!
I chose to ignore the ill mannered Feckers with their "show us your" demands, but did respond to a couple of polite REQUESTS.
One of the guys watching was invited (as he was incredibly polite & respectful.....and a little bit horny!) to PM me via the forum, which he duly did.
He's now not only my Buck Fuddy (it souns so coarse!) but I am proud to class him as a good friend.
There is room in the chatrooms for everyone, if you want to direct go to a room which does not stipulate "no directing" what could be easier FFS? Or as someone else suggested, open up a directors room- simple!
Just don't bemoan the facct that some people want to chat in a chatroom. Swinging is about making friends, and having sex. Needless to say, that post fared pretty badly if your intention here is to do either.
Does Swinging Heaven really swing? Nah, IT ROCKS!
:thumbup:
I have put on a show a couple of times- though not for a while.
I did it because I felt like it, and did so in a room where it was not likely to upset others wanting to just chat- perfectly reasonable IMHO in a chatroom!
I chose to ignore the ill mannered Feckers with their "show us your" demands, but did respond to a couple of polite REQUESTS.
One of the guys watching was invited (as he was incredibly polite & respectful.....and a little bit horny!) to PM me via the forum, which he duly did.
He's now not only my Buck Fuddy (it sounds so coarse!) but I am proud to class him as a good friend.
There is room in the chatrooms for everyone, if you want to direct go to a room which does not stipulate "no directing" what could be easier FFS? Or as someone else suggested, open up a directors room- simple!
Just don't bemoan the facct that some people want to chat in a chatroom. Swinging is about making friends, and having sex. Needless to say, that post fared pretty badly if your intention here is to do either.
Does Swinging Heaven really swing? Nah, IT ROCKS!
:thumbup:
Thanks everyone for a very lively discussion,have learned lots of new ways to wind people up it seems.I have no intentions of deliberatly insulting people its not my nature -honest ,so if that appears to be the case please accept my apologise.
Thanks for your kind invitation BLOKE but I will decline on this occasion.
To DARKFIRE and all the rest who felt compelled to reply ,keep up the keyboard thumping ,its all very amusing.I havent had the inclination to read all the replies but I can imaging they are pretty much the same.
ps my girlfriend said the initial posting would get some heckles it just
Have fun everyone biggrin
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ps my girlfriend said the initial posting would get some heckles it just
Have fun everyone biggrin

That's odd - your profile says you are 'almost divoced' and doesn't indicate that you have a girlfriend.
Maybe those were the bits that were censored out?
Then again, your profile also says that you are both 41 and 43. Very odd.
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.I havent had the inclination to read all the replies but I can imaging they are pretty much the same.

So why bother asking the question and starting the debate rolleyes
Quote by john60
Thanks everyone for a very lively discussion,have learned lots of new ways to wind people up it seems.I have no intentions of deliberatly insulting people its not my nature -honest ,so if that appears to be the case please accept my apologise.
Thanks for your kind invitation BLOKE but I will decline on this occasion.
To DARKFIRE and all the rest who felt compelled to reply ,keep up the keyboard thumping ,its all very amusing.I havent had the inclination to read all the replies but I can imaging they are pretty much the same.
ps my girlfriend said the initial posting would get some heckles it just
Have fun everyone biggrin

Hmmm, I can hear music playing.....is that the sound of someone beating the retreat?
And if you were hoping to wind people up with that "retort" I think we're pretty much clever enough to see through it hun.
Thank you however for telling us to have fun..........but dont worry, we swingers already do!
Quote by john60
Thanks everyone for a very lively discussion,have learned lots of new ways to wind people up it seems.I have no intentions of deliberatly insulting people its not my nature -honest ,so if that appears to be the case please accept my apologise.
Thanks for your kind invitation BLOKE but I will decline on this occasion.
To DARKFIRE and all the rest who felt compelled to reply ,keep up the keyboard thumping ,its all very amusing.I havent had the inclination to read all the replies but I can imaging they are pretty much the same.
ps my girlfriend said the initial posting would get some heckles it just
Have fun everyone biggrin

Wow, a girlfriend and an almost ex wife, how do you find the time?
H.x
Quote by H-x
Wow, a girlfriend and an almost ex wife, how do you find the time?
H.x

Maybe the girlfriend has the 41 year old john and the almost ex wife has the 43 year old john? Or vice versa?
lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thanks for the giggle - I love it when people use that excuse " I only did it to get that reaction, not 'cos Im a moaner and can't get a shag honest and I've got a girlfriend as well as a wife so :razz:"
The defensive just shines through the dross.
It's not even good trolling. rolleyes
Top Tip for the future - If you want to style yourself as a troll, try and be a bit more insulting and be sure to answer replies with far more disdain and wit than you are currently managing.
The ever helpful Jas
XXX
girlfriend!!!??? yeah right....cant see how anyone would be able to stand such pompus tw*t
Quote by john60
Thanks everyone for a very lively discussion,have learned lots of new ways to wind people up it seems.I have no intentions of deliberatly insulting people its not my nature -honest ,so if that appears to be the case please accept my apologise.
Thanks for your kind invitation BLOKE but I will decline on this occasion.
To DARKFIRE and all the rest who felt compelled to reply ,keep up the keyboard thumping ,its all very amusing.I havent had the inclination to read all the replies but I can imaging they are pretty much the same.
ps my girlfriend said the initial posting would get some heckles it just
Have fun everyone biggrin
Quote by Jas-Tim
lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Thanks for the giggle - I love it when people use that excuse " I only did it to get that reaction, not 'cos Im a moaner and can't get a shag honest and I've got a girlfriend as well as a wife so :razz:"
The defensive just shines through the dross.
It's not even good trolling. rolleyes
Top Tip for the future - If you want to style yourself as a troll, try and be a bit more insulting and be sure to answer replies with far more disdain and wit than you are currently managing.
The ever helpful Jas
XXX

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