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I have used eBay for years now, and they always say that they never, ever request sensitive information via email. I get em all the time, and sometimes they ask to update your details. Even if it your pets name, dont tell em anything via an email.
Has anyone had the email in German yet? I've had dozens
I hope they catch em and put them on auction, so we can bid on who's gonna bugger them for the next twenty years :twisted:
Has anyone had the email in German yet? I've had dozens
I hope they catch em and put them on auction, so we can bid on who's gonna bugger them for the next twenty years :twisted:
Do any of you eBay users make use of the Community discussion forums that ebay have?
All things eBay related +any subject you like that would NOT be classed as "Adult" in nature. I find the forum there very useful for answering all sorts of questions.
Here's a sneaky link to the Round Table ....... watch out for the parrot called Geordie,
All things eBay related +any subject you like that would NOT be classed as "Adult" in nature. I find the forum there very useful for answering all sorts of questions.
Here's a sneaky link to the Round Table ....... watch out for the parrot called Geordie,
Sexlightened
I got an email from eBay, last week, saying "Final Notice", to update my details, or my account would be suspended, and to go to the eBay site via a link in the email. I am the only one with access to my PC, and had not had any emails from them before. When I got to their site, it looked allright to me, but they needed ( I think ) my login name, my password, and then my Credit Card details. By now alarm bells were ringing, and as I have no intention of buying anything in the near future, I took the chance to be suspended, and closed down the email, without entering my details. I am still puzzled as to whether it was genuine, but better to be safe than sorry.
thechairman18
thechairman18
Quote by thechairman18
I got an email from eBay, last week, saying "Final Notice", to update my details, or my account would be suspended, and to go to the eBay site via a link in the email. I am the only one with access to my PC, and had not had any emails from them before. When I got to their site, it looked allright to me, but they needed ( I think ) my login name, my password, and then my Credit Card details. By now alarm bells were ringing, and as I have no intention of buying anything in the near future, I took the chance to be suspended, and closed down the email, without entering my details. I am still puzzled as to whether it was genuine, but better to be safe than sorry.
thechairman18
That was most certainly NOT genuine so you did right by not bothering. No reputable site will EVER ask you to do that - not even your bank so always always always say no!
:P
That email was a spoof.
Ebay will tell you that they will NEVER ask you to follow a link within an email to update your files.
What they MAY do is send you an email telling you to log on to eBay as normal and navigate your own way to the accounts pages to update your details. This happens usually when your registered credit card has become date expired and needs to be updated.
Ebay will tell you that they will NEVER ask you to follow a link within an email to update your files.
What they MAY do is send you an email telling you to log on to eBay as normal and navigate your own way to the accounts pages to update your details. This happens usually when your registered credit card has become date expired and needs to be updated.
Sexlightened
Thanks, Jags, and Parrot,
In a situation such as that, I suppose the people running the scams, hope that someone will fall (as I nearly did ). I was a bit worried in case eBay did suspend my account, but then again, why should a company see fit to delist customers, when most companies are trying to grow their business. Thanks again for your replies.
thechairman18
In a situation such as that, I suppose the people running the scams, hope that someone will fall (as I nearly did ). I was a bit worried in case eBay did suspend my account, but then again, why should a company see fit to delist customers, when most companies are trying to grow their business. Thanks again for your replies.
thechairman18
Sex God
Quote by Parrot
That email was a spoof.
Ebay will tell you that they will NEVER ask you to follow a link within an email to update your files.
What they MAY do is send you an email telling you to log on to eBay as normal and navigate your own way to the accounts pages to update your details. This happens usually when your registered credit card has become date expired and needs to be updated.
Parrot. Unfortunately these email scammers have gotten a little more technical than that. It isn't that hard to create a 'template' site for them to follow from the email. It will look exactly like ebay. Even logging on would feel like ebay.
After the logon you will actually think that you were in your own 'area' so if you went to the accounts page it will ask for you to fill them out again. From fresh. This is the only give away if you don't realise what is happening.
Now-a-days the scammers are not only creating sites for there links to work but that is were they are collecting the information from too. No more filling out forms in emails.
I'm just waiting for them to start collecting the ebay usernames and password with their fake login pages. After they have logged in they could be sent to an ebay error message saying that this action is down (Or something to that affect). Then all they need to do is buy things they would like from the real ebay with your login details.
Master of Sex
You will also notice when these spoof e-mails come through that not only do they want your bank details they also want your PIN no,and you never give out that,I have prevoiusly reported them to e-bay but they seem at times to be ahead of the game.
Sex God
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You will also notice when these spoof e-mails come through that not only do they want your bank details they also want your PIN no,and you never give out that,I have prevoiusly reported them to e-bay but they seem at times to be ahead of the game.
I've had a couple of spoof emails supposedly from eBay before - I think a bit of common sense is all that's needed to spot them - basically, anything that asks for bank/card details again is going to be a fake ... ESPECIALLY if it also asks for a PIN number!!!
These things work because they prey on peoples fears ... ie. the threat to suspend someones account is a good trick.
In the case of a 'second chance' offer ... I'd suggest that you email the original seller via the 'contact member' link ...
If in doubt, always report the mail to the official site whether this is eBay or online banking.
Matt.... I may be being Mr Thicko here but you7've lost me a bit.
How can a scammer ply his trade if you have gone to ebays accounts page under your own steam and NOT by clicking on a link within an e-mail?
Are you trying to say that the scammer can somehow change your favourites list so that clicking on eBay within favs will take you to his own spoof site?
I find that a bit 1984 TBH.
Unless the recipient has been daft enough to click on all kinds of stuff within e-mails and has a computer full of back doors worms, trojans etc
How can a scammer ply his trade if you have gone to ebays accounts page under your own steam and NOT by clicking on a link within an e-mail?
Are you trying to say that the scammer can somehow change your favourites list so that clicking on eBay within favs will take you to his own spoof site?
I find that a bit 1984 TBH.
Unless the recipient has been daft enough to click on all kinds of stuff within e-mails and has a computer full of back doors worms, trojans etc
Sex God
Yes sorry Parrot, they can even fool that trusty Internet Explorer that you are on the right page, it is a spoof address that fools you and some of the dreaded Microsoft packages.
Get a good Firewall installed on you your system.
John
Get a good Firewall installed on you your system.
John
A good way of checking if it is a SPOOF is to put in a fictional name and a fictional password.
This will take you to the next page in the sequence thus proving it is not a true email from whatever company! The bottom link does sometimes lead to the genuine site!
However if in doubt just dont do anything just leave it alone and delete or better still forward it to ebay or bank it claims to come from and they will deal with it. This goes for the fraud asking people to use their accounts to receive funds from abroad.
This will take you to the next page in the sequence thus proving it is not a true email from whatever company! The bottom link does sometimes lead to the genuine site!
However if in doubt just dont do anything just leave it alone and delete or better still forward it to ebay or bank it claims to come from and they will deal with it. This goes for the fraud asking people to use their accounts to receive funds from abroad.
Ultimately guys if you use Ebay/Paypal then you are setting yourself up to be conned, no ifs or buts
It is structurally set up to allow con men to seemingly operate with impunity
Whether you want to con somebody OR whether someone (a sales rival) whom regularly sells through Ebay wishes to fuck your Paypal account up thus fucking up your business..... it is TOO easy
If you want to con people use Ebay, if you want to stay safe make sure you never sends funds through Paypal unless you can afford to lose them to the conman AND INDEED never leave more than you can afford to lose in your Paypall account online, all it takes is some fucker to complain about you and Paypal will freeze your account and NEVER get back to you
Of course if you want to con people then simply use a anonymous email (not one from your service provider and NOT one from , these are blocked), a proxy account, a mailing address in bogata or someplace and your in, you can count the cash before some guy in Prague is aware its been robbed, easy peasy
Of course the above is not to be done, it is purley for information purposes to show you not what to do, it is however how scumbags would do it
It is structurally set up to allow con men to seemingly operate with impunity
Whether you want to con somebody OR whether someone (a sales rival) whom regularly sells through Ebay wishes to fuck your Paypal account up thus fucking up your business..... it is TOO easy
If you want to con people use Ebay, if you want to stay safe make sure you never sends funds through Paypal unless you can afford to lose them to the conman AND INDEED never leave more than you can afford to lose in your Paypall account online, all it takes is some fucker to complain about you and Paypal will freeze your account and NEVER get back to you
Of course if you want to con people then simply use a anonymous email (not one from your service provider and NOT one from , these are blocked), a proxy account, a mailing address in bogata or someplace and your in, you can count the cash before some guy in Prague is aware its been robbed, easy peasy
Of course the above is not to be done, it is purley for information purposes to show you not what to do, it is however how scumbags would do it
Sex God
I have an ebay/paypal account with my address. They can't be blocked, or isn't that what you mean?
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I have an ebay/paypal account with my adress. They can't be blocked, or isn't that what you mean?
I mean Paypal AT ANY TIME CAN B-- LOCK YOUR ACCOUNT AND TAKE YOUR CASH
Paypal are notorius for this and have been hauled over the coal for it before with class actions in the states, quite frankly it is a huge piss take of a con
As I said, if you have any money from a transaction in your Paypal account transfer it to your 'normal' bank as soon as it reaches an amount you dont want to lose ie: for mnost of us pretty much anything over a tenner
Sex God
I only use it to pay for stuff anyway. Surely paypal can't be that bad or people would stop using it?
Sexlightened
I think it makes sense to transfer money regularly and not leave it too long in your Paypal account - apart from anything else, as far as I know, Paypal don't pay interest!
I don't think any transaction should be made over Ebay or Paypal involving money or goods you can't afford to lose. In essence it is a great idea to buy or sell over the net but as with any transaction there are risks. More so because you don't even see they person you are buying from / selling to.
It's all a question of weighing up the risk and deciding if you are prepared to take it.
I don't think any transaction should be made over Ebay or Paypal involving money or goods you can't afford to lose. In essence it is a great idea to buy or sell over the net but as with any transaction there are risks. More so because you don't even see they person you are buying from / selling to.
It's all a question of weighing up the risk and deciding if you are prepared to take it.
Quote by freckledbird
I only use it to pay for stuff anyway. Surely paypal can't be that bad or people would stop using it?
No, my point is that for the millions of people that use it most will not have a problem with it BUT if ever you do caught and fucked over through Paypal you should not complain about it, it is hardly a suprise and as I said whether you are a con man or the one being conned the mechanism is in pkace to allow it to happen
The scandal is no-one seems to give a fuck for doing anything about it, probably because Paypal/Ebay is more than likely being used as one of many trogan horses being used to get society accustomed to an electronic society under the guise of 'convenience'
As long as people are happy using 'electronic' currency that doesnt esixt and as long as the 'con rate' is low enough so that most people are happy with it then when the time comes that YOU are conned no-one will give a fuck and life goes on lol
The trouble will come when the people running the electrronic systems decide to con you all at the same time leavbing everyone with no money, yet at the same time you will have all of the 'convienient' micro chips in everything you have bought, probably in your arms too and as such you will instantly become a penniless slave herd, that is what the big gameplan is about, quite clever really, but then again who cares as long as you can buy a fake Von Dutch hat at a fiver from Ebay? lol
Sexlightened
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I only use it to pay for stuff anyway. Surely paypal can't be that bad or people would stop using it?
No, my point is that for the millions of people that use it most will not have a problem with it BUT if ever you do caught and fucked over through Paypal you should not complain about it, it is hardly a suprise and as I said whether you are a con man or the one being conned the mechanism is in pkace to allow it to happen
The scandal is no-one seems to give a fuck for doing anything about it, probably because Paypal/Ebay is more than likely being used as one of many trogan horses being used to get society accustomed to an electronic society under the guise of 'convenience'
As long as people are happy using 'electronic' currency that doesnt esixt and as long as the 'con rate' is low enough so that most people are happy with it then when the time comes that you are conned no-one will give a fuck and life goes on lol
The trouble will come when the people running the electrronic systems decide to con you all at the same time leavbing everyone with no money yet at the same time you will have all of the 'convienient' micro chips in everything you have bought, probably in your arms too and as such you will instantly become a penniless slave herd, that is what the big gameplan is about, quite clever really, but then agin who care as long as you can buty a fake Von Dutch hat at a fiver from Ebay? lol
Well you could argue that this chip and pin rubbish comes under the same category. And cash machines. Apparently noone but the computer knows your number. Rubbish.
Apart from the fact that people can and do watch you key in the number (I refuse to use chip and pin if anyone is too close to me) I am convinced that there are ways for Bank staff to get the number. Maybe not the ordinary counter clerk but someone there can if they want to.
Everything in life is risky. You just have to calculate whether the risk is worth taking. Doesn't matter whether we are talking about Ebay/paypal, chip and pin, sex with a stranger or anything else.
Sex God
OOOOOOOOOOOO slow down for heaven's sake :shock: I only use it for odd bits, as do most people, I expect. I'm not going looking for a chip implanted in my arm :shock: I think you're over reacting, just a tad. 
Sexlightened
Quote by freckledbird
OOOOOOOOOOOO slow down for heaven's sake :shock: I only use it for odd bits, as do most people, I expect. I'm not going looking for a chip implanted in my arm :shock: I think you're over reacting, just a tad.
Exactly. Calculated risk. If you pay for a skirt for a fiver, postage and you never get it, is it a disaster? Not unless you are on the breadline. If you pay £250 for a mobile phone it might well be depending on your income!
Sex God
Quote by uhuru
OOOOOOOOOOOO slow down for heaven's sake :shock: I only use it for odd bits, as do most people, I expect. I'm not going looking for a chip implanted in my arm :shock: I think you're over reacting, just a tad.
Exactly. Calculated risk. If you pay for a skirt for a fiver, postage and you never get it, is it a disaster? Not unless you are on the breadline. If you pay £250 for a mobile phone it might well be depending on your income!
Sorry Uhuru, that wasn't meant to reply to your post, it was for the one before. I agree with you though, you have to get things into perspective.
Uhuru I agree with you when you say its up to people to weigh up the risk etc, I weigh them up and dont use Paypal, simple lol
Oh and frecklenbird re:the microchips, if by 'perspective' you want to convince yourself something isnt happening and ongoing right now because you dont know about it then fine, it doesnt however change the fact that the plan is for the electronic society to be the standard (you can actually pay $50 to have one put in now, the company is called Applied Digital solutions and they will gladly 'give you one', Prince Charles and his lads have them)
The companies behind this technology have over the last 2 years started trying to market this stuff as 'cool' etc by targetting clubgoers at nighclubs (vip clubs) that to gain entry you have to have a microchip in your arm, again it is being sold via the 'its cool, its convienient' methodology
As for chips in your groceries etc?, well again companies from Benetton to Gillette have all started to put these things in their products, they have faced some opposition from groups but it is only a matter of time before they are in everything, it is what the multinationals want and it will happen, they have even been caught putting them in US dollars too
The sad thing is we have shelf stackers at various stores whom will be putting these products onto the shelves not realising they are actually setting themselves up to be fired...who will need shop assistants when you can just walk in, take it off the shelf and walk right out with it, the money is debitted from your bank account via the micro chip in your arm and hey presto its all great isnt it?, all 'convienient'?
On a separate note, does anyone else find it amusing that Ebay wontlet you sell used panties etc? lol :shock:
Oh and frecklenbird re:the microchips, if by 'perspective' you want to convince yourself something isnt happening and ongoing right now because you dont know about it then fine, it doesnt however change the fact that the plan is for the electronic society to be the standard (you can actually pay $50 to have one put in now, the company is called Applied Digital solutions and they will gladly 'give you one', Prince Charles and his lads have them)
The companies behind this technology have over the last 2 years started trying to market this stuff as 'cool' etc by targetting clubgoers at nighclubs (vip clubs) that to gain entry you have to have a microchip in your arm, again it is being sold via the 'its cool, its convienient' methodology
As for chips in your groceries etc?, well again companies from Benetton to Gillette have all started to put these things in their products, they have faced some opposition from groups but it is only a matter of time before they are in everything, it is what the multinationals want and it will happen, they have even been caught putting them in US dollars too
The sad thing is we have shelf stackers at various stores whom will be putting these products onto the shelves not realising they are actually setting themselves up to be fired...who will need shop assistants when you can just walk in, take it off the shelf and walk right out with it, the money is debitted from your bank account via the micro chip in your arm and hey presto its all great isnt it?, all 'convienient'?
On a separate note, does anyone else find it amusing that Ebay wontlet you sell used panties etc? lol :shock:
Sexlightened
Guess what? Out of curiosity,I've got the origanal email back up, and tried to link up to 'eBay', and 'the server connection is down'! The guys who are running this scam must pull the plug after they get no response, to try and cover their tracks.
thechairman18
thechairman18
