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Quote by duncanlondon
It would be genuinely voluntary if it originated from someone's good will. But once it is suggested it becomes more of an expectation or obligation.
But if one felt obligated before hand then one could simply say no
given the open minded nature of swinging, I find it hard to understand why people would be shy about saying no or about this subject..
I am starting to think the situation needs to be brought out into the open for more discussion by the community as a whole..It would seem rather unfair to have a few shoulder the cost while others take advantage of that and play for free.
I am starting to think the situation needs to be brought out into the open for more discussion by the community as a whole..It would seem rather unfair to have a few shoulder the cost while others take advantage of that and play for free.
Quote by moniquejohn
I see your point dave,but at least we stimulated some lively posts lol
Perhaps I should have put the words "voluntary contribution" in capitals.
"Voluntary may refer to: A word meaning done, given, or acting of one's own free will"
"That which is contributed; -- either the portion which an individual furnishes to the common stock"
please Ecuador my amused sarcasm in this post lol.
Voluntary or implied is irrelevant really. It is how it is percieved by other swingers or admin. I have put across why admin may query it. Individuals would have to decide on their own opinion of what they see and how they perceive it.
Personally, if I asked someone to play with us at our house then I would not ask for a contribution (voluntary or otherwise) as my perception is that money exchanging hands could be construed as paying for sex. It sits uncomfortable with me. If it is ok for other people then it is their conscience they have to answer and not mine.
Dave_Notts
Its not that complicated really. if you want to run an event and you are fairly concerned about ending up in a financial mess, or picking up the bill or some of it, then you need to run it as a commercial event. set out your stall and see who comes to it.
There's plenty of people out there who will pay for a well organised and provisioned event.
There's plenty of people out there who will pay for a well organised and provisioned event.
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Quote by Andy_Jules
Bows up, she's going.
j
Mods edit. Removed script
Maybe, I already pressed print screen though and am on my way to MS paint :lol: :smug:
Quote by moniquejohn
One way Easy Jet to Limerick?
I was thinking a bit further than that.
how about a swap with a voluntary contribution on top ;)
Easy Jet isn't a plane ticket..............its a fecking sentance. I wouldn't go with them fecking barstewards again, rant, bawl, rant, rant, fecking gits, rant, rant....................etc
As you can guess........ I love Easy Jet
Dave_Notts
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Quote by moniquejohn
Check out our comments box and read what happened to Cannyman2009, his words, not ours! Ask him if we charged him. You really should be careful with your accusations. We are one of the most genuine, respectful, decent couples on here. Clearly some of you are just incapable of answering a genuine question without automatically going into insult mode. Try reading your answers before sending them, and if you don't understand a word, look it up! Monique xxx
And, you could use the right one in the right context.
Quote by moniquejohn
ahh this one i have to reply to lol.
So is it postulation to pay entry to a swinging club with the expectations of sex?
As for this site advertising sex for cash, if you look carefully you will see people advertising parties requiring contributions, one even offers 50% off membership,ON THIS SITE.
Ignoring my original post for the moment and the fact there was at least 2 full stops between the pig sty comments and the contribution question. where do you draw the line? contribution?, membership fee?, or outright soliciting?
Quote by moniquejohn
this isn't our home, in fact its cheaper than a hotel.
Ok quite cheap means 300 to 400 a the messages im getting people would rather contribute to a hotel, ok that fine, but the same if we go to a hotel once week it will portability cost more. It would seem people would rather contribute to a hotel at more cost than a more economical private house/house party.
ok so the house is ruled out..I'll go with the MAJORITY expressed here and drop the idea.
so next question.
So do you think its fair to ask for voluntary contribution towards costs of a hotel??
Most people on here would not object to sharing the costs of an hotel. However, I agree with those who say that what you propose, is tantamount to prostitution.
And if you ask a question on here, be prepared for a wide range of responses. You may not always like them, but don't be all huffy and complain about the posters being rude etc.
Casanova
Quote by Dave__Notts
One way Easy Jet to Limerick?
I was thinking a bit further than that.
how about a swap with a voluntary contribution on top ;)
Easy Jet isn't a plane ticket..............its a fecking sentance. I wouldn't go with them fecking barstewards again, rant, bawl, rant, rant, fecking gits, rant, rant....................etc
As you can guess........ I love Easy Jet
Dave_Notts
Talking about Easyjet malservice and voluntary contributions... there was this one episode on "Airline" (reality-tv/documentary following the experiences of workers and passengers), where a particular flight was extremely delayed. Irrate passengers on board, company owner was (perhaps for the purposes of filming?) on board too. He apologised profusely and then offered everyone a drink on the house. Plane was on its way and everybody pleased. Nearing their destination, owner appeals to passengers and asks for them to "chip in" to cover expenses. People do, scene closes with owner saying he covered expenses with a small profit on top. So much for a free drink! The peculiar thing was how the whole plane was cheering and made to feel like they had successfully faced an adversity together!
I was busy yesterday and missed all this outburst! Interesting threads but missed the watching it unfold with-drink-and-nuts moment haha. As per OP, I am not surprised this debate has sprung because what was being suggested was very, very awkwardly phrased:
Quote by moniquejohn
a voluntary contribution towards costs from the people who avail them selves of moniques pussy?(and other bits
I think if the sentence ended at "a voluntary contribution towards costs", we wouldn't be talking about prostitution at all!
And, you could use the right one in the right context.
postulation
ahh well, fully admit I can't spell..not to god with spell checkers either lol.
Now, you need anything welding, give me a call lol.
plus that was mon bitching about words, not me,john. I know I cant spell, last thing I'm gonna do is throw stones!
John.
postulation
ahh well, fully admit I can't spell..not to god with spell checkers either lol.
Now, you need anything welding, give me a call lol.
plus that was mon bitching about words, not me,john. I know I cant spell, last thing I'm gonna do is throw stones!
John.
Sexpert
I remember seeing an advert a while back...a couple were looking for a single guy to meet them in a hotel and "give her a good seeing to".
The last line of the advert was that the single guy had also to pay for the room. This made me laugh and I wondered if they ever actually got any takers
If you were to advertise rooms for people to use and charge for them I don't think anyone would have a problem...well except the council, inland revenue and any other official body, lol.
The line seems to be crossed when you do things yourself...I'm not entirely sure why that is the case tbh.
The last line of the advert was that the single guy had also to pay for the room. This made me laugh and I wondered if they ever actually got any takers
If you were to advertise rooms for people to use and charge for them I don't think anyone would have a problem...well except the council, inland revenue and any other official body, lol.
The line seems to be crossed when you do things yourself...I'm not entirely sure why that is the case tbh.
Phew what a malestrom.
Grey areas I spose.
Its all too easy to get wound up about "prostitution".
The following is a list of sex/finanacial transactions that happen all the time that fall into the grey area.
Folk expecting single men to stump up the hotel costs.
Swinging clubs allowing women in cheap and charging blokes a fortune.
Clubs that employ "hostesses".
Clubs that pay the travel/catering/accomodation for single female swingers knowing they play.
Swingers accepting gifts of value or doing each other favours of a work nature.
Just ones that come to mind. I assume there are many others.
Grey areas I spose.
Its all too easy to get wound up about "prostitution".
The following is a list of sex/finanacial transactions that happen all the time that fall into the grey area.
Folk expecting single men to stump up the hotel costs.
Swinging clubs allowing women in cheap and charging blokes a fortune.
Clubs that employ "hostesses".
Clubs that pay the travel/catering/accomodation for single female swingers knowing they play.
Swingers accepting gifts of value or doing each other favours of a work nature.
Just ones that come to mind. I assume there are many others.
Quote by moniquejohn
Paying to enter a swingers club is an entry fee to a private members club, sex is between consenting adults and not relevant to your current post.
However, you were asking for payment on those wishing to mess with Moniques puss as a contribution towards money you laid out elsewhere. Payment such as that 'could' be seen as paying for sexual services. Wiggle as much as you like but it was you that typed it. Maybe next time you'll think of putting it differently.
j
ok how about i put it like this.(note, not clubs,their private houses..)
"It's time again for another great party.....guys £30 couples £20 single ladies £10"
or
"Private house party........normal fee £10"
and I didn't ask for cash for sex, I asked if it would be fair to ask for a "voluntary contribution towards costs"..I think I put it perfectly.
If we ever go to a club or private party that charges, we never play with the hosts, well you can't charge people then expect to play with them, cake and eat it springs to mind!
Quote by Pink_n_Blue
No different to most people who play at home, but i'd never dream of asking someone to leave cash by the door as they leave - that would make me a hooker
why?
a woman who gets paid to have sex in a porn film, is she a hooker to? she is being paid for sex.
if a person wants to charge for the use of his home and the things within his home and drinks that he has supplied, what is so wrong with that?
not meening to sound you out in particular but the morals of some peeple on here are at times shocking.:notes:
Quote by frecklebird
And, you could use the right one in the right context.
i have to also put up at times with peeples coments about my spelling, sorry mrs freckle but you do that often and i do not see any relevance to this at all, in answering someones coments? is it that important on here that someone can spell properly?:
Quote by moniquejohn
ahh well, fully admit I can't spell..not to god with spell checkers either lol.
plus that was mon bitching about words, not me,john. I know I cant spell, last thing I'm gonna do is throw stones!
John.
it happens on here i am afraid.
Quote by frecklebird
And if you ask a question on here, be prepared for a wide range of responses. You may not always like them, but don't be all huffy and complain about the posters being rude etc.
perish the thought that anyone would dare to frecklebird.:notes:
i think it very rude and insensitive when someone takes the pisse out of my spelling. a thought to take into consideration perhaps?
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Quote by starlightcouple
And, you could use the right one in the right context.
i have to also put up at times with peeples coments about my spelling, sorry mrs freckle but you do that often and i do not see any relevance to this at all, in answering someones coments? is it that important on here that someone can spell properly?:
Quote by moniquejohn
ahh well, fully admit I can't spell..not to god with spell checkers either lol.
plus that was mon bitching about words, not me,john. I know I cant spell, last thing I'm gonna do is throw stones!
John.
it happens on here i am afraid.
Quote by frecklebird
And if you ask a question on here, be prepared for a wide range of responses. You may not always like them, but don't be all huffy and complain about the posters being rude etc.
perish the thought that anyone would dare to frecklebird.:notes:
i think it very rude and insensitive when someone takes the pisse out of my spelling. a thought to take into consideration perhaps?
Whoever posted, was being rude to someone else about their understanding of words - that is the relevance of my response. People in glass houses and all that. Gosh, monique/john will be saying they are dyslexic next.
And I also gave a response to the original question. Is that OK with you?
, monique/john will be saying they are dyslexic next.
erm Monique IS dyslexic.
and my main objection is when people assume if you cant spell, your thick..
As a kid I had an IQ of 130. I just can't spell.
Mostly I put that down to lack of practice and the way my brain process information. My spelling is getting better due to Google chrome having a built in spell checker. But even then I quite often select the wrong word from the options due to not paying attention.
The mistake in question has nothing to do with my understanding of the word, just my mouse didn't hover over the correct word long enough in the pull down menu on the spell checker and I didn't notice.
erm Monique IS dyslexic.
and my main objection is when people assume if you cant spell, your thick..
As a kid I had an IQ of 130. I just can't spell.
Mostly I put that down to lack of practice and the way my brain process information. My spelling is getting better due to Google chrome having a built in spell checker. But even then I quite often select the wrong word from the options due to not paying attention.
The mistake in question has nothing to do with my understanding of the word, just my mouse didn't hover over the correct word long enough in the pull down menu on the spell checker and I didn't notice.
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Quote by moniquejohn
, monique/john will be saying they are dyslexic next.
erm Monique IS dyslexic.
and my main objection is when people assume if you cant spell, your thick..
As a kid I had an IQ of 130. I just can't spell.
Mostly I put that down to lack of practice and the way my brain process information. My spelling is getting better due to Google chrome having a built in spell checker. But even then I quite often select the wrong word from the options due to not paying attention.
The mistake in question has nothing to do with my understanding of the word, just my mouse didn't hover over the correct word long enough in the pull down menu on the spell checker and I didn't notice.
As some one else that suffers from dyslexia, I often get my bad spelling, or bad choice from the spell checker, pointed out by those that feel this is a fun thing to do. I just try to ignore it now.
It is a similar attitude that I faced at school from many teachers. Almost, as if they wish to belittle people with their perceived superior knowledge. I have since discovered there is much I can do well that they could not.
Another thing the wife and I noticed when we arrived here is how judgmental so many here can be. We had presumed that people, who were on, what most of society might consider the fringes of what could be considered acceptable, would be more open mined and excepting of other’s quirks, more so than vanilla folk. We were wrong to presume this, some seem to be less excepting.
We still like it here though
Casanova
Quote by Ben_Minx
Swinging clubs allowing women in cheap and charging blokes a fortune.
Clubs that employ "hostesses".
Clubs that pay the travel/catering/accomodation for single female swingers knowing they play.
Excellent points - as a woman who plays alone these things really put me off organised swinging. Lets face it, "if you are not paying for it, you're not the customer; you're the product being sold".
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Quote by foxylady2209
Check out our comments box and read what happened to Cannyman2009, his words, not ours! Ask him if we charged him. You really should be careful with your accusations.
We are one of the most genuine, respectful, decent couples on here.
Modest too.
:giggle:
And exceptionally discreet, naming playmates on the forum. Great stuff.
And Monique doesn't appear to be dyslexic either.
