Difficult one this as prostitution isn't illegal in this country, it's the actions surrounding prostitution that are such as soliciting, running a brothel, kerb crawling etc.
If the lady at the dogging spot details what she will do for cash then she's soliciting and that's an offence, but there are ways to get around this law, so she may not actually be committing any crime.
if it was made clear from the begining that the money was to be given back afterwards then it would just b a bit of role play fantasy but if not then just plain ole protitution
"Would you have sex with me for a million pounds?"
"OK."
"Would you have sex with me for a fiver?"
"Certainly not! What do you think I am?"
"I think we both know what you are, we're just haggling over the price."
I can see where this fantasy could happen, to a point.
We, the wife and I that is, often act out elaborate fantasies and one is that we go out separately, meet in a pre-aranged pub, pretend we have never met before, chat her up, take her home and pay for sex, of coarse in reality the money goes no where but goes a long way to make the fantasy feel real.
Not quite the same I know
The couple may like to believe they are just being playful and harmless, but it wouldn't be taken like that in the eyes of the law. Especially as they are doing this in a public place. They would be treated the same as any hooker who was trying to do sex work on the street. Plus it gives dogging a bad name, because generally doggers don't get involved in money for sex.
If your fantasy is to be paid for sex and you act on your urge surely it's both fantasy and prostitution,as for wether it fits with the 'ethics' of dogging I've no idea.
There is no more morally wrong with getting paid to have sex with a complete stranger than there is with having sex with a complete stranger for free.
What is wrong is the attendant danger. But then poorly managed dogging is fraught with danger.
Personally I have many fantasies that include getting large amounts of money for very little work. Mine usually centre round being left huge amounts of money by a rich uncle I have never met. So I will get Lottery tickets instead - isn't gambling a scourge of society too?
We (swingers) play out many fantasies - from bondage to cowboys and indians. If someone gets off on imagining being paid for sex, I can't see much wrong in playing that out. It can be done in a situation where no-one breaks any actual laws (or at least isn't caught doing so). So, in my opinion - let them go for it.
could you not use monopoly money?....if you do get nicked i would love to see it go to court
Just to put another slant on this .......
Mr Fun just suggested that, a single bloke pays to get into a club with the intention of having sex with a woman ..... would you say that this could also be looked at as paying for sex?
In countries where brothels are legal, you pay the madam (pimp) is that not the same as paying to get into a swinging club? Obviously the difference with a club is that we all consent and understand that we all have to pay to gain entry and we make no money for having sex .... but money is still changing hands.
For the record, we dont view swinging clubs as brothels and both think that controlled, organised prostitution should be legal after all it is the oldest profession!!!! Just playing devils advocate.
It wont be long before all of these things become fully accepted.
In fact, travelling past Wood Lane recently I'm sure I heard two BBC Excec's discussing programming.
Cash in the Carpark was on the planning table.
lp
I think the law's covered all aspects of how prostitution works; in its illegal and legal aspects. These are designed to prevent people using illegal means and keeping them to what is legal.
Its amusing to turn things on their head with hypothetical scenarios and harmless enough to discuss in theory; but the law covers those kind of misinterpretations.
I read the initial thread in the dogging forum, which I think was just some sex workers trying for business. I can understand most people's reactions would be to give them the benefit of the doubt. But its a risk not worth taking in the circumstances.
Well , escorts are legal as it is different from prostitution what u think?
These are the kind of aggrevating lines of thought that lead to confused ideas and attitudes. There are no grounds to assume that people are behaving in such ways as is being suggested. Single guys or even couples may feel a sense of dissapointment that they did not get a shag, but they have no grounds to expect it; so they don't think they are buying sex at a club.
Therefore no one else should be assuming that they equate swinging with sex work. If that is how you feel then its entirely your choice to do so, but there are no conditions under which that state is allowed to develop unless you are involved in entirely dodgy activites.
You won't encounter that in a bona fide club