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Hate it. You think someone's come along with something new and interesting / sexy to talk about but it turns out to be someone saying that they're the last one to in a particular thread. So frickin what - I don't care!
*Him*

Yeah, I know . . . You log in, find a page full of unread posts, eagerly click in to see what you've missed, and as it turns out it's just Tweeky going on with himself trying to get last post on every single thread on page one? rolleyes lol
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Hate it. You think someone's come along with something new and interesting / sexy to talk about but it turns out to be someone saying that they're the last one to in a particular thread. So frickin what - I don't care!
*Him*

Yeah, I know . . . You log in, find a page full of unread posts, eagerly click in to see what you've missed, and as it turns out it's just Tweeky going on with himself trying to get last post on every single thread on page one? rolleyes lol
;)
N x x x ;)
:lol2: Not quite the case, just trying to unblock the toilet but all the shites stuck at the top.
Hindsight. What seemed to be a good idea seems to had the exact opposite affect. Today is a bad example people have had other stuff to be doing but all thats been posted in is the old JFF threads and a few other threads where the old JFF posters seem to have spilled out. It would seem that the change has had the opposite affect to the desired one and a lot of old cafe forum posters have for want of a better phrase fucked off. Cant say I have not tried over the festive period to spam up some interest lol but with little affect. I severely do hope at some point in 2011 we see some kind of up surge in cafe usage.
Now I know there are always those who will say this is a forum it has its ups and it has its downs but to me this has been the longest period of low usage ever. Had the JFF threads not been here then the cafe would have received like 2-3 topics updated yesterday (31st) which must be near a record for a slow day. Its debatable that the JFF being here has caused the other threads to loose activity but from what I have read that does sadly seem to be the case.
Not a great post to start 2011 on, I will try a more upbeat one biggrin
I don't suppose a "I told you so" comment will help much here lol
A place for everything, and everything in its place...
Tweeky, one of the reasons why the question was asked in the first place is because it looked like the cafe was dying on its arse. Would it have been any busier, at this time of year especially, if the merge hadn't happened? I suspect not. Would people still be saying 'isn't it a shame that lots of the old posters seem to have buggered off completely'? I reckon they would, cos they've said that as long as I've been here. Would we have a shedload of really high-quality interesting threads covering all manner of topics under the sun on the go? More than likely not. They don't seem to have been overly abundant before the merge in any event?
I have my own theories as to why the forum is less popular than it was, some of which I'll keep to meself, but despite protestations to the contrary it's never really been the focal point of the site for most. It's not the draw that the other all-singing, all-dancing parts of the site are for new users, so new blood is always gonna be a trickle when what it needs is a flood. We should probably try harder to keep those that do venture in on board, and I don't think we're very good at that at the minute. ((( Myself included. ))) Having said that, looking at other swinging sites that are almost entirely forum based, they seem equally slow. Maybe everyone's using Facebook these days where it's a bit more on their own terms, among their own circle, where they don't have to put up with TTT&Ts*? Whatever the reason, I'm not sure you can put a lack of activity down to the presence of a handful of easily ignorable threads?
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* Twits, twats, tossers and turds. ((( TM Jags 2004 ))) ;)
I'm not sure I entirely agree... I guess I'm a bit of a defector cause I've found forums elsewhere have kept me hugely entertained over the last few weeks. Perhaps that's cause I've bounced in there and talked shite and felt a bit like a newbie all over again but there are certainly a whole load of threads and they keep on coming.
I don't think you can put it down to a few fun threads... I think it's more likely to be down to attitudes. I fear it's maybe a little more relaxed elsewhere and that probably shows. Maybe with the free members trial in chat it should have been extended to the forums to bring in some new people but would they stay? That's a whole other question. lol
Well as I do often I'll disagree with the three posts above. Yes GNV a place for everything and everything in its place. Take that thought and check the start date of the all the old JFF posts. All 2009, in the old days of the cafe these dull threads didnt exist so there place never was here in the cafe so to speak. As I have said many times when the site owners split the forums they created spaces for new types of thread. Thats not exactly what was intended but it is what happened. So when we have reintegrated we have not reintegrated what was once together, we have reintegrated things that never co existed in the first place.
Neil what I am talking about is very recent and very simple. A few regular posters voiced objections at the JFF threads always being at the top of the cafe forum and now they dont post or if they do hardly ever. Admittedly its not very many but as there were not many to start with its significant. I do note too some accounts may have been banned.
Regardless of any of this its only my own opinion that matters to me here. There basically is now feck all to do here so I have started cutting down my visiting frequency. Its better that when I do log in there is actually some stuff to read and the only way that seems possible is to log in less often.
I personally don't like the games being in the cafe.. but that may be because I don't join in... perhaps I should then I wouldn't have anything to complain about.
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Well as I do often I'll disagree with the three posts above. Yes GNV a place for everything and everything in its place. Take that thought and check the start date of the all the old JFF posts. All 2009, in the old days of the cafe these dull threads didnt exist so there place never was here in the cafe so to speak. As I have said many times when the site owners split the forums they created spaces for new types of thread. Thats not exactly what was intended but it is what happened. So when we have reintegrated we have not reintegrated what was once together, we have reintegrated things that never co existed in the first place.
Neil what I am talking about is very recent and very simple. A few regular posters voiced objections at the JFF threads always being at the top of the cafe forum and now they dont post or if they do hardly ever. Admittedly its not very many but as there were not many to start with its significant. I do note too some accounts may have been banned.
Regardless of any of this its only my own opinion that matters to me here. There basically is now feck all to do here so I have started cutting down my visiting frequency. Its better that when I do log in there is actually some stuff to read and the only way that seems possible is to log in less often.

tweeky there was always fun threads in the cafe before the split, there has always been a mixture, maybe what has happened when the fun forum was started people knew where to go to just chill and have a laugh without all the sex and current affairs threads. Now prehaps they are all still here and enjoying popping in and posting.
Which keeps the fun threads at the top.
What is need is thread writers, believe me I have done my fair share of those in the past on various topics sexual and non sexual too.
Maybe thats the problem the thread makers of the past have run out of ideas to write about as most things they have covered in the past.
What happens now is if someone new comes along and starts a thread that eros again has been discussed someone often delves back to the past thread and people then think o well and dont post just reads it. We need to let new discussion still evolove today even if we have commented in the past to attact more comments if not sadly the forums will come to a stand still, as either some say been there done that, or here is what we all said last time which is like saying this is boring.
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Well as I do often I'll disagree with the three posts above. Yes GNV a place for everything and everything in its place. Take that thought and check the start date of the all the old JFF posts. All 2009, in the old days of the cafe these dull threads didnt exist so there place never was here in the cafe so to speak. As I have said many times when the site owners split the forums they created spaces for new types of thread. Thats not exactly what was intended but it is what happened. So when we have reintegrated we have not reintegrated what was once together, we have reintegrated things that never co existed in the first place.
Neil what I am talking about is very recent and very simple. A few regular posters voiced objections at the JFF threads always being at the top of the cafe forum and now they dont post or if they do hardly ever. Admittedly its not very many but as there were not many to start with its significant. I do note too some accounts may have been banned.
Regardless of any of this its only my own opinion that matters to me here. There basically is now feck all to do here so I have started cutting down my visiting frequency. Its better that when I do log in there is actually some stuff to read and the only way that seems possible is to log in less often.

tweeky there was always fun threads in the cafe before the split, there has always been a mixture, maybe what has happened when the fun forum was started people knew where to go to just chill and have a laugh without all the sex and current affairs threads. Now prehaps they are all still here and enjoying popping in and posting.
Which keeps the fun threads at the top.
What is need is thread writers, believe me I have done my fair share of those in the past on various topics sexual and non sexual too.
Maybe thats the problem the thread makers of the past have run out of ideas to write about as most things they have covered in the past.
What happens now is if someone new comes along and starts a thread that eros again has been discussed someone often delves back to the past thread and people then think o well and dont post just reads it. We need to let new discussion still evolove today even if we have commented in the past to attact more comments if not sadly the forums will come to a stand still, as either some say been there done that, or here is what we all said last time which is like saying this is boring.
:thumbup: I agree
Quote by Theladyisaminx
What happens now is if someone new comes along and starts a thread that eros again has been discussed someone often delves back to the past thread and people then think o well and dont post just reads it. We need to let new discussion still evolove today even if we have commented in the past to attact more comments if not sadly the forums will come to a stand still, as either some say been there done that, or here is what we all said last time which is like saying this is boring.

That's exactly the problem. There are a lot of us who have been round the block, some of us twice. We've all seen the threads, sometimes twice and we've all seen the comments about the search button being your friend etc. Sometimes it's refreshing to see a new perspective even if it is an old question. If we don't allow new people to ask old questions then it's pretty clear where we end up... I think we're pretty much there now.
It's been said, it's been done and it'll keep being said and done long after we're gone. In the meantime, what's wrong with saying it and doing it again? It's not like a lot of people hate the sound of their own voice. Bring back the banter, bring back the nonsense, even bring back the stupid questions like "I've been here a week, how do I get a meet" or "why do people waste your time" or even a discussion on the verifications. Thread writers are here, some of us have experience, some of us don't, maybe it's time to start sharing those experiences all over again. Forget the old threads and what it used to be like... make it like you want it and start them again. Old subjects can be new subjects with fresh eyes on them and fresh opinions.
Or if you can't be bothered with that then go down the vaults and bring back some of the funnies. There have been a load of them in my time and a load of them before my time. It can be done, I've seen it done before.
Moaning about it being stale (although I'm totally in agreement with that) isn't constructive. Do something constructive. :mrgreen:
I think that the forums should be archived every so often, maybe every fifty pages or so. I'm quite happy to start threads I started once before or read and post on other threads that have been started afresh, I've no doubt some of my views over the last five years have more than likely changed. What I don't like seeing is billion year old topics regurgitated with posters saying "This has been discussed before" and then linking back to a thread where very few of the posters are now known or active it stops or puts off current members having a valued input as what they might like to of posted has been covered.
Ideally i'd love to see the cafe's slate wiped clean so that currant members could be encouraged to post and feel they share ownership of of whats being discussed and feel that the forum belongs to the here and now and not to the long gone posters of yesteryear.
I can't remember the last time anyone posted "This has been done to death" or "Search is your friend" type responces. I remember they used to abundant but can't remember seeing any recently ie over the last 12 months.
Is it a case of long memories or have I just missed them or ignored them dunno
Dave_Notts
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I can't remember the last time anyone posted "This has been done to death" or "Search is your friend" type responces. I remember they used to abundant but can't remember seeing any recently ie over the last 12 months.
Is it a case of long memories or have I just missed them or ignored them dunno
Dave_Notts

Probably because there have only been 10 new threads in the last 2 years :lol2: all the fresh blood has looked at the previous gadzillion posts and though "hmmmm no point in posting its bound to of been done" No but seriously I think the idea of refreshing the forum so that current users can take ownership of it and would add a contemporary dynamic. Personally i'd love to see it happen.
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I can't remember the last time anyone posted "This has been done to death" or "Search is your friend" type responces. I remember they used to abundant but can't remember seeing any recently ie over the last 12 months.
Is it a case of long memories or have I just missed them or ignored them dunno
Dave_Notts

Probably because there have only been 10 new threads in the last 2 years :lol2: all the fresh blood has looked at the previous gadzillion posts and though "hmmmm no point in posting its bound to of been done" No but seriously I think the idea of refreshing the forum so that current users can take ownership of it and would add a contemporary dynamic. Personally i'd love to see it happen.
That! :giggle:
Quote by Theladyisaminx
tweeky there was always fun threads in the cafe before the split, there has always been a mixture, maybe what has happened when the fun forum was started people knew where to go to just chill and have a laugh without all the sex and current affairs threads. Now prehaps they are all still here and enjoying popping in and posting.
Which keeps the fun threads at the top.
What is need is thread writers, believe me I have done my fair share of those in the past on various topics sexual and non sexual too.
Maybe thats the problem the thread makers of the past have run out of ideas to write about as most things they have covered in the past.
What happens now is if someone new comes along and starts a thread that eros again has been discussed someone often delves back to the past thread and people then think o well and dont post just reads it. We need to let new discussion still evolove today even if we have commented in the past to attact more comments if not sadly the forums will come to a stand still, as either some say been there done that, or here is what we all said last time which is like saying this is boring.

Fun threads yes, 50 odd pages of 5 words, no. I dont read them they dont bug me in that respect but as I have said in the past I am not keen on how it represents the cafe to new blood seeing the five word story at the top all day with the same 3-5 posters posting endless pages. I dont feel there is any real interaction in these thread they are about as interesting as the Facebook profile that updates daily, taking the kids to school, back now, having breakie, feel ill, better now, how about some lunch?, hubbys home, made tea, kids in bed, night all.
I do go out of my way to try and make new threads though I must admit recently my ideas have been a bit mundane but thats probably just where I am in life right now dunno Anyway popping in less often seems to be doing the trick for me so I'm happy biggrin
Could of been worse, could of been four words biggrin
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Could of been worse, could of been four words biggrin

Funny you should say that as I was thinking that three words was probably better lol it gives you less words in which to direct the next post. A three word story would be more spontaneous. Not that I would want to see one or partake in one but could probably be funnier dunno a lot less "and thens" etc