sorry totally not swinging related at all
but its terry pratchetts hogfather on sky one tonight, now i have read every single book over and over again, have all sorts of figurines, maps, cook books etc of the discworld so for me this is going to be very interesting.
i have seen two of the books turned into aminations which were good, but when you read a book the characters have particular voices etc and the animations werent anything like i had in my head so tonight is going to be an xperience.
not sure how many pratchett fans there are but what do you think, or have there been any other books that have been turned into films etc that havent met your expectations.
another one for me was queen of the damned, follow up to interview with the vampire, nothing like the book and total crap.
EArthy xx
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I finished reading Eragon a couple of weeks ago and went to the cinema to watch it last night. Wish I'd saved reading the book until afterwards now. The film as it stood was ok but I think I would have enjoyed it a whole lot more if I didn't know that they'd missed loads of bits out and cut the timeline down by a hell of a lot too 
I don't think I've ever read anything and then been pleased with the film they made of it although The Green Mile did come very close.
I'll be watching the Hogfather tonight and then reading the book after fektart has finished re-reading it. Hopefully this will be the right way around for me for a change
I don't think I've ever read anything and then been pleased with the film they made of it although The Green Mile did come very close.
I'll be watching the Hogfather tonight and then reading the book after fektart has finished re-reading it. Hopefully this will be the right way around for me for a change
Sex God
i read all the " conan " books when i was younger 
and when i heard that a conan film was coming out and that Arnie was to play conan i though great this will be a film to see
how fockin pissed off was i when they play conan as a thick git :roll: in the books he thought before he acted
and when i heard that a conan film was coming out and that Arnie was to play conan i though great this will be a film to see
how fockin pissed off was i when they play conan as a thick git :roll: in the books he thought before he acted
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i read all the " conan " books when i was younger
and when i heard that a conan film was coming out and that Arnie was to play conan i though great this will be a film to see
how fockin pissed off was i when they play conan as a thick git :roll: in the books he thought before he acted
Where as Arnie never got as far as the acting, right?
I've not read Hogfather yet- and will wait for the heads up from you guys as to wether its worth seeing the TV version when I get (hopefully) the tape given to me!
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I've not read Hogfather yet- and will wait for the heads up from you guys as to wether its worth seeing the TV version when I get (hopefully) the tape given to me!
Having watched the first part tonight I can honestly say......................I LOVED IT!
Death was just fantastic..........that was the one thing I was worried about...............would Death look and sound right. HE is, after all, my favourite character
Sex God
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i read all the " conan " books when i was younger
and when i heard that a conan film was coming out and that Arnie was to play conan i though great this will be a film to see
how fockin pissed off was i when they play conan as a thick git :roll: in the books he thought before he acted
Where as Arnie never got as far as the acting, right?
:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove:
and yet if you watch the film " Red Sonia" if he had played "conan" like that he would have been closer to the mark :roll:
Books and films are very different mediums and I desperately try not to compare them.
One of the best is Blade Runner as it only takes the esscence of the story.
Srangest one was Bridge over the River Kwai. In the film the bridge is blown up which is odd since it is still there today and quite a tourist attraction.
Both versions of War of the Worlds are kakk compared to the book.
League of Extrodinary Gentlemen. It just ignores the original material, introduces new charactors and goes off on its own little story.
One of the best is Blade Runner as it only takes the esscence of the story.
Srangest one was Bridge over the River Kwai. In the film the bridge is blown up which is odd since it is still there today and quite a tourist attraction.
Both versions of War of the Worlds are kakk compared to the book.
League of Extrodinary Gentlemen. It just ignores the original material, introduces new charactors and goes off on its own little story.
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Royal Flash (what a way to treat a George MacDonald Fraser novel :shock: !)
Well said De Sade; hats off to anyone who recognises the sheer genius of the Flashman series of novels. I consider Sir Harry more of a role model than I probably should. Have you read his other novels? Black Ajax? Mr American? All good.
I think it might actually be more contructive to if people tried to list films which have actually matched their expectations from a source novel as there really aren't that many. As previously noted Godfather is the obvious one.
Films cannot and should not slavishly follow the structure of a novel as the two disciplines require fundementally different pacings etc. Indeed it is knowing what to leave out and what to emphasise that marks a skilled adapatation. A film of a novel should though capture the very essence of what made the book tick, and it should ensure the characters, voices, appearences, set design, cinematography and the general 'feel' of the picture all chime with as many fans of the orginal novel as possible.
Hmmm... I'm racking my brains but few spring to mind.
Censorship is also an interesting point to consider. I remember having read American Psycho (a book I had to put down at several points as it was simply too visceral and disturbing) and wondering how the hell they would get any of the last third on to the screen (answer - they didn't). Intellectual snobbery means the powers that be are happier to let books be much more explicit/violent etc than films as they think that literary naughtiness is elitist and requires imagination whereas Hollywood naughtiness is spoon-feeding the drooling masses. I don't have much truck with this.
Oh, I've thought of a good one! Fight Club. When I saw the film I was blown away by the intensity, the rawness, the sense of disorientation, the snappy editing, the punchy segues etc etc. I thought the director etc were outstanding. I then went back to read Chuck Palunuck's (Sp? I can't be bother Googling it) original novel and found that all of that was right there on the page. The film guys had done a great job of bringing the page to the screen but the author had done the difficult job of creating that world and that 'feel' in the first place.
Oh, and just for the record I also love Pratchett (I've been an avid reader since The Light Fantastic) but with over 40 million books sold isn't everyone nowadays?
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Edit: And the Shawshank Redemption! How could I forget that. And Jaws for that matter. In fact the minute I finished the post I started thinking of loads of great adaptations. Damn.
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I've not read Hogfather yet- and will wait for the heads up from you guys as to wether its worth seeing the TV version when I get (hopefully) the tape given to me!
Having watched the first part tonight I can honestly say......................I LOVED IT!
Death was just fantastic..........that was the one thing I was worried about...............would Death look and sound right. HE is, after all, my favourite character
that was my real worry too, the only thing i wasnt sure about was teatimes voice, apart from that i totally loved it too
Earthyxx
I've just remembered DUNE (or Dooon) what a mess. Looked good but was a heap of poo.
Another is CATCH 22, possibly an unfilmable book. The none chronological narritive makes it an interesting read but wouldn't work as a film, coupled with the big budget battle scenes. The film was a brave attempt but it didn't capture the essecence of the book.
Another is CATCH 22, possibly an unfilmable book. The none chronological narritive makes it an interesting read but wouldn't work as a film, coupled with the big budget battle scenes. The film was a brave attempt but it didn't capture the essecence of the book.
I missed Hogfather last night as I spent the evening driving up the M25 to Stansted but I'll be watching it Xmas Day
There are so many books that have been ruined by being made into films, far too many to name.
I'm a huge Discworld fan too and have some of the figures and all the books and I'd love to see Reaper Man made into a film :thumbup:
There are so many books that have been ruined by being made into films, far too many to name.
I'm a huge Discworld fan too and have some of the figures and all the books and I'd love to see Reaper Man made into a film :thumbup:
Bladerunner (in the director's cut) is an amazing film, that is tangentally related to the book. The filmmakers wisely took the concepts and characters and ran with them rather than dealing with the 'what is reality/what is humanity' issues in a way that the book does. Most of Philip K Dick's novels are unfilmable, which is why I'm constantly surprised by the number of the them that have been made into films. A Scanner Darkly worked well, but wasn't really mainstream, but Total Recall had the quiet geeky main character played by Arnie! I'd love to see 'galactic pot healer' bade into a film someday. The Hitchhiker's Guide worked fairly well, but it suffered from the definitive visual version already having been made by the BBC.
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I missed Hogfather last night as I spent the evening driving up the M25 to Stansted but I'll be watching it Xmas Day
There are so many books that have been ruined by being made into films, far too many to name.
I'm a huge Discworld fan too and have some of the figures and all the books and I'd love to see Reaper Man made into a film :thumbup:
If you were casting a Pratchett film who would you have?
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I missed Hogfather last night as I spent the evening driving up the M25 to Stansted but I'll be watching it Xmas Day
There are so many books that have been ruined by being made into films, far too many to name.
I'm a huge Discworld fan too and have some of the figures and all the books and I'd love to see Reaper Man made into a film :thumbup:
If you were casting a Pratchett film who would you have?
I thought David Jason was great as Albert and the guy who did Death was ace too :thumbup: and even though the actor who did Nobby Nobbs had him great I can't help thinking of Tony Robinson's Baldrick when I read him :giggle:
How's about Julie Walters as Nanny Ogg and Maggie Smith for Granny Weatherwax ? :giggle:
i watched it and thought it was a great adaptation of the book but people i were watching it with who hadn't read teh book were a bit lost.
LOTR was the best adaptation of an action film from a book for me. The classic novels make the best adaptations, drama seems to be better than action or sci fi any day, take HHGTTG or 2001 for example.
LOTR was the best adaptation of an action film from a book for me. The classic novels make the best adaptations, drama seems to be better than action or sci fi any day, take HHGTTG or 2001 for example.
Sex God
I have to ask this:
Has anyone seen Patrick Suskind's Perfume at the cinema and how do they like the adaptation from the novel.
Personally I loved it. Yes it was still as dark as the book, sometimes quite gross actually but great filming angles, fabulous use of punctuated colour amidst the grey, great casting (Alan Rickman was fabulous) and an all round engrossing film. I saw it with a friend who introduced the book to me and we both sat watching in awe.
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Has anyone seen Patrick Suskind's Perfume at the cinema and how do they like the adaptation from the novel.
Personally I loved it. Yes it was still as dark as the book, sometimes quite gross actually but great filming angles, fabulous use of punctuated colour amidst the grey, great casting (Alan Rickman was fabulous) and an all round engrossing film. I saw it with a friend who introduced the book to me and we both sat watching in awe.
pink x
the main thing in all of this is the word ADAPTATION its the screen writers view on what he/she has read and visualised in thier own mind. Now when we read a book we do exactly the same, but everyones mind is different thats what makes things so fantastic.
i can read a book and chat to someone else about it and they have seen it from a totaly different angle, films tend to be 1 dimensional because or budget and run time.
When some one has gone the whole hog as was said in earlier post about Blade Runner dierectors cut you get a truer picture but much longer.
Worst film adaptaion for me is Bourne series in film he kills his best mate and wife, but in second and especially 3rd book his wife is a main character ???????
i can read a book and chat to someone else about it and they have seen it from a totaly different angle, films tend to be 1 dimensional because or budget and run time.
When some one has gone the whole hog as was said in earlier post about Blade Runner dierectors cut you get a truer picture but much longer.
Worst film adaptaion for me is Bourne series in film he kills his best mate and wife, but in second and especially 3rd book his wife is a main character ???????
Sex God
Pratchett writes great book, I watched hogfather and thought it was ok, not as great as I'd imagined it but thats great thing about books, you fill in the gaps and use your imagination, DEATH was on the money and they captured the funny side really well.
Now this is a bit of a bugbear of mine.
I am an unashamed geek and I love Judge Dredd. The film was a crime against humanity, though. The comics are just so good - and I don't even normally read comics - I am not quite geeky enough to do the whole collector of everything to do with sequential art thing - but I do love my Judge Dredd. But the film - and I was SO excited to see it when it came out - was shit.
Books to movies have had a much better deal IMO. I am waiting for the first comic to film thingy that is not stupid. History of Violence was getting there (and that's Joohn Wagner - who wrtes Dredd) so I'm waiting for a decent Dredd film. I'll wait forever, probably.
Oh - wait. Have I just returned to a site where I am supposed to try and be all alluring and sexy and admitted to being a comic geek? Ooops...
I am an unashamed geek and I love Judge Dredd. The film was a crime against humanity, though. The comics are just so good - and I don't even normally read comics - I am not quite geeky enough to do the whole collector of everything to do with sequential art thing - but I do love my Judge Dredd. But the film - and I was SO excited to see it when it came out - was shit.
Books to movies have had a much better deal IMO. I am waiting for the first comic to film thingy that is not stupid. History of Violence was getting there (and that's Joohn Wagner - who wrtes Dredd) so I'm waiting for a decent Dredd film. I'll wait forever, probably.
Oh - wait. Have I just returned to a site where I am supposed to try and be all alluring and sexy and admitted to being a comic geek? Ooops...
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Pratchett writes great book, I watched hogfather and thought it was ok, not
as great as I'd imagined it but thats great thing about books, you fill in the gaps and use your imagination, DEATH was on the money and they captured the funny side really well.
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