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Orgasminator
According to the BBC thee's currently no panic.
If people do keep thier heads and avoid panic buying we may well find that the blockades aren't as effective as they were last time.
If people do keep thier heads and avoid panic buying we may well find that the blockades aren't as effective as they were last time.
Mod
Quote by Deviated Prevert
According to the BBC thee's currently no panic.
If people do keep thier heads and avoid panic buying we may well find that the blockades aren't as effective as they were last time.
I know it will be inconvenient, but actually I hope they are effective. I'm pissed off paying for everything the Government needs money for, just because I put fuel in my car. The tax should be a fair levy to be used for travel-related expense, not compensating for other areas where the revenue isn't so high.
Mal
Warming the Bed
This an an issue that really gets my goat.......... 
:x :x
As I drive one of the smallest, greenest, most fuel effecient cars you can buy in the UK (not including Hybrids), I get really pi$$ed off at paying nearly a £1 a litre!
When I bought the car, it cost me £20 to fill it.....now it costs £30!....which, doing the maths is: in TAX and for the fuel!....which means that I'm paying about 6p per mile tax!
I feel like getting the car sign written with something like "How F**king small, clean and green a car do I need to be able to afford to drive in the UK?"
P.S, it's made by a very well known german company that also make very expensive cars with a three pointy badge thingy!
:x :x As I drive one of the smallest, greenest, most fuel effecient cars you can buy in the UK (not including Hybrids), I get really pi$$ed off at paying nearly a £1 a litre!
When I bought the car, it cost me £20 to fill it.....now it costs £30!....which, doing the maths is: in TAX and for the fuel!....which means that I'm paying about 6p per mile tax!
I feel like getting the car sign written with something like "How F**king small, clean and green a car do I need to be able to afford to drive in the UK?"
P.S, it's made by a very well known german company that also make very expensive cars with a three pointy badge thingy!
i reckon that this fuel problem will definately put a strain on us doggers. also it still puts strain on us at the moment as the fuel prices are fuckin sky high. they say dont panic but why is their ques all across my area just to get petrol at the garage? o well we are doggers and no matter what happens im sure we can all still meet up werever the location
Orgasminator
Quote by Mal
According to the BBC thee's currently no panic.
If people do keep thier heads and avoid panic buying we may well find that the blockades aren't as effective as they were last time.
I know it will be inconvenient, but actually I hope they are effective. I'm pissed off paying for everything the Government needs money for, just because I put fuel in my car. The tax should be a fair levy to be used for travel-related expense, not compensating for other areas where the revenue isn't so high.
Mal
Whilst I might be tempted to agree with people who say we pay too much tax on fuel (especially biodiesel, which is taxed almost as heavily as normal diesel even when it's used for applications where people would normally be able to use red diesel), I can't agree with people who (based on their previous form) threaten violence against tanker drivers and compromise the effectiveness of the emergency services.
If they want to protest, they can do what everyone else does and march through the centre of London or other major cities. I doubt they will though, as it'd very quickly show exactly how few committed supporters they have.
Mod
Quote by Deviated Prevert
According to the BBC thee's currently no panic.
If people do keep thier heads and avoid panic buying we may well find that the blockades aren't as effective as they were last time.
I know it will be inconvenient, but actually I hope they are effective. I'm pissed off paying for everything the Government needs money for, just because I put fuel in my car. The tax should be a fair levy to be used for travel-related expense, not compensating for other areas where the revenue isn't so high.
Mal
Whilst I might be tempted to agree with people who say we pay too much tax on fuel (especially biodiesel, which is taxed almost as heavily as normal diesel even when it's used for applications where people would normally be able to use red diesel), I can't agree with people who (based on their previous form) threaten violence against tanker drivers and compromise the effectiveness of the emergency services.
If they want to protest, they can do what everyone else does and march through the centre of London or other major cities. I doubt they will though, as it'd very quickly show exactly how few committed supporters they have.
I definitely agree regarding the physical violence and threats and also there shouldn't be any restrictions for emergency workers. But something needs to be done, whatever form that takes.
Mal
Sex God
Quote by Mr Henderson
i hear this every year THE FUELS GONE UP THE FUELS GONE UP, try going to my local garage i have been putting in every week for years now and its never gone up still its great.
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I've just got back from running the gauntlet at my local supermarket petrol station. There's a queue right up the road, but I managed to get in a bit quicker because I went shopping first and there's an entrance from the car park ;)
It's not something I'd usually go into panic mode about, but my daughter's in hospital about 100 miles away so I really need to be able to get to her. Not sure what we'll do if petrol does actually run out - may have to get them to discharge her early
Quote by JustABloke
This an an issue that really gets my goat..........
I feel like getting the car sign written with something like "How F**king small, clean and green a car do I need to be able to afford to drive in the UK?"
Ooo I like that - go on, I dare you! you'd definately get a supportive horn honk from me
and probably everyone else you might drive past!I fuelled up yesterday (normal routine) and the queue was ridiculous! So, I now have a full but very expensive tank of petrol and I'm afraid that once its gone I wont be queuing to get more, or paying these bloody daylight robbery prices and lining this damn Governments pockets anymore. Fuel tax
Council Tax :evil: Income Tax :evil: Mal wrote:
I know it will be inconvenient, but actually I hope they are effective. I'm pissed off paying for everything the Government needs money for, just because I put fuel in my car.
I do hope it's effective. Problem with this country is we don't have a united front anymore - more of a roll over and take it mentality.
Great Britain? bollocks!
Deviated Prevert wrote:
If they want to protest, they can do what everyone else does and march through the centre of London or other major cities. I doubt they will though, as it'd very quickly show exactly how few committed supporters they have.I agree - marches, blockades, signs on cars, horn honking....I dont know what to suggest as a viable way of making a stand, but we should, as a very pissed off nation of taxpayers get more committed and more supportive of those who are willing to do more than armchair protests.
Sex God
I think you might be able to get petrol from somewhere if you needed it for visiting her, Angel. I asked at school today, regarding what happens if the petrol runs low. I was told that we can get a letter from the headteacher to get petrol from a particular petrol station. Here was I, thinking we'd have to have enforced closures. 
Here was I, thinking we'd have to have enforced closures. 
Mod
I have to ask, Bev - what makes teachers a special case regarding fuel?
Mal
Mal
Sex God
Quote by Mal
I have to ask, Bev - what makes teachers a special case regarding fuel?
Mal
That's what I said Mal. Nobody could answer me, though. Hardly an emergency service is it?
Quote by The Dukes
Think the petrol in Prague was only about 30p a litre. It would be cheaper to buy a tanker and get it delivered. Anyone want shares.
30p a litre :shock: :cry: :cry:
count me in for shares in the SH tanker - that, or a one way ticket to Prague
I hear there's some nice bars in Prague...nice sights...nice people...cheap fuel...
now all I have to do is pedal the car, a la Flinstones, to Heathrow. (where funnily enough there's plenty of fuel. Wrong kind but hey! :twisted: Hmmm
Sexpert
Hmmm not sure where I stand on this fully...
I on one hand feel really annoyed at the sheer cost of trying to get anywhere by car. In some ways, I've been blinded to it all a bit over the last couple of years because I had a fuel card.
The car wet back the day I resigned, so I've been on hire cars since. I'm due in Swindon tomorrow, and have decided to get there by train instead.
The aggrevating bit is that it'd have taken about 45 mins door to door by car, and tomorrow if all goes to plan, it's looking like a little over two hours each way.
So there's my major issue - If the extra tax being paid was being invested on better mass transport systems, I wouldn't mind. In fact quite the opposite is happening - from my place in Wolves, to get anywhere quickly, I have to use the M6 toll road at a pop - a road built by private enterprise because the government can't afford it!
I can't help but feel sorry for those poor buggers that drive the tankers - they're just tring to earn a living like the rest of us. In fact, I don't really have too much of an issue with the oil companies.
ot sure what the answer is, but I'm pretty sure we're going to see a revolt of some kind pretty soon...
I on one hand feel really annoyed at the sheer cost of trying to get anywhere by car. In some ways, I've been blinded to it all a bit over the last couple of years because I had a fuel card.
The car wet back the day I resigned, so I've been on hire cars since. I'm due in Swindon tomorrow, and have decided to get there by train instead.
The aggrevating bit is that it'd have taken about 45 mins door to door by car, and tomorrow if all goes to plan, it's looking like a little over two hours each way.
So there's my major issue - If the extra tax being paid was being invested on better mass transport systems, I wouldn't mind. In fact quite the opposite is happening - from my place in Wolves, to get anywhere quickly, I have to use the M6 toll road at a pop - a road built by private enterprise because the government can't afford it!
I can't help but feel sorry for those poor buggers that drive the tankers - they're just tring to earn a living like the rest of us. In fact, I don't really have too much of an issue with the oil companies.
ot sure what the answer is, but I'm pretty sure we're going to see a revolt of some kind pretty soon...
Sex God
all the bikes `ll be coming out the sheds!!!!!!!!!
how about dogging on a tandem???
lol
2`s
how about dogging on a tandem???
lol
2`s
Firstly I have to say that the situation is not helped by people panicking, and rushing to the petrol station to top up ( in some cases just putting in a fiver to top the tank up to the limit - I know i saw it) The fuel protestors have already said they will not be blockading any fuel depots - so supplies will keep coming through.
If there were to be a shortage, long queues of the type we saw last time, and police officers controlling them, then i'm very lucky - I work in one of those industries that is considered an essential service - we'd just get given a special pass which allows us priority over others at all petrol stations - I know i can fill up at leisure.
However - as I said - I really don't think it will come to that, so i'm not really bothered. What I will say to those of you panic buying - STOP it! all you are doing is blocking petrol stations, and further contributing money and sales to the already obscenely wealthy petrol companies. Theres no need for that.
kbuk
If there were to be a shortage, long queues of the type we saw last time, and police officers controlling them, then i'm very lucky - I work in one of those industries that is considered an essential service - we'd just get given a special pass which allows us priority over others at all petrol stations - I know i can fill up at leisure.
However - as I said - I really don't think it will come to that, so i'm not really bothered. What I will say to those of you panic buying - STOP it! all you are doing is blocking petrol stations, and further contributing money and sales to the already obscenely wealthy petrol companies. Theres no need for that.
kbuk
Sex God
Nobody has yet mentioned the safety risk involved when people start storing extra supplies of petrol at home. Didn't someone's house explode during the last fuel crisis? Be very careful. :shock:
Quote by willxx69
The cost of fuel in this country is indeed an absolute disgrace. What really made my blood boil is hearing a Treasury spokesman on Radio 4 last week dismiss the critics on fuel prices by saying that "More than half the fuel used in the UK attracts little or no duty at all." He went on to say that, therefore, reducing the duty wouldn't make much difference!!
Now, in terms of TOTAL fuel used, he is correct. But only because aviation fuel doesn't attract duty (and agricultural fuel is quite rightly taxed at a drastically reduced rate). However, to anyone who wasn't aware of the background it would have sounded as if the fuel we use in our everyday lives is not heavily taxed. This, of course, is absolute codswallop! After all, most of us don't use aviation fuel to run our vehicles and the vast majority of what we pay at the pumps goes straight to the Government. An outrageous piece of spinning. Creating a completely false impression without actually (techinically) lying.
On a VERY serious note. As I work away from home during the week, if there is a serious fuel shortage, I may not be able to get home to see my family at the weekend!
61.1% Duty to HM Treasury :shock:
Orgasminator
It will be interesting to see how the Government will act.
It may use the Civil Contingencies Act
to put a stop to it, as the disruption to the supply of fuel can be considered an emergency. So possibly, no need to panic buy. Might make Tony very unpopular though.
Another site of interest
Is meant to give details of the cost of fuel, and any protests taking place, etc.
It may use the Civil Contingencies Act
to put a stop to it, as the disruption to the supply of fuel can be considered an emergency. So possibly, no need to panic buy. Might make Tony very unpopular though.
Another site of interest
Is meant to give details of the cost of fuel, and any protests taking place, etc.
Quote by Mal
I definitely agree regarding the physical violence and threats and also there shouldn't be any restrictions for emergency workers. But something needs to be done, whatever form that takes.
Mal
Going to come out on the other side, yes we pay a lot in tax, but the problem as was said by the goverment is coming from the worldwide issues. If these people have problems then they can protest, I have no issue with that. However if they block feul then they are not just protesting, they are using me and my family as hostages in their fight.
In essence this is a form of terrorism, ok that is a strong word, and I do not mean to intone that these people would kill anyone. However last time they caused major 'disruption'. People all over the country paniced, their lives were put on hold. We had Police on the streets... now even the threat of a blockade is causing panic... and all this to create political change. They are using everyone in the country, our fear and our disruption to change the goverment policy. This is what a terrorist does.
So I apologise for the word, I wish there was a word that indicates what these people are, as they are not terrorists. I just can't think of an appropriate phrase. I do however not want to be a tool in someone elses fight.
If people want to withdraw their labour, that is fine. If they want to stop me getting home by parking their lorry between me and my family, so mine and my childrens upset at not seeing each other can make the goverment change their mind I will not be impressed. In the final anlysis they may or may not change the policy of the goverment, but they will ruin plenty of other peoples lives, the feul is expensive enough without them blocking it.
Eventually they will kill someone, even if it is because a drugs lorry did not get somewhere, or an ambulance was delayed behind a car that ran out of fuel, or worse yet a lorry on a go slow.
Sex God
Quote by marktheminx
61.1% Duty to HM Treasury :shock:
Does this figure include the VAT that is paid on Fuel? A tax on a tax.
John
Warming the Bed
All the local garages around here all have long queues at the moment, people are panic buying, and some have even started running out, could curtail dogging if it gets worse, but hopefully should be over soon..
Quote by willxx69
The cost of fuel in this country is indeed an absolute disgrace. What really made my blood boil is hearing a Treasury spokesman on Radio 4 last week dismiss the critics on fuel prices by saying that "More than half the fuel used in the UK attracts little or no duty at all." He went on to say that, therefore, reducing the duty wouldn't make much difference!!
Now, in terms of TOTAL fuel used, he is correct. But only because aviation fuel doesn't attract duty (and agricultural fuel is quite rightly taxed at a drastically reduced rate). However, to anyone who wasn't aware of the background it would have sounded as if the fuel we use in our everyday lives is not heavily taxed. This, of course, is absolute codswallop! After all, most of us don't use aviation fuel to run our vehicles and the vast majority of what we pay at the pumps goes straight to the Government. An outrageous piece of spinning. Creating a completely false impression without actually (techinically) lying.
On a VERY serious note. As I work away from home during the week, if there is a serious fuel shortage, I may not be able to get home to see my family at the weekend!
Well said Will,does his spin use a natural form of energy to produce the rotations?
Seriously,if people dont panic buy then there will be plenty of fuel for everybody,and my business will be fine because although i need fuel ive got plenty
