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George....a Footballing Legend..!!

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He may have been a fab footballer but his personal life left a lot to be desired.
As a icon no doubt for many younger men in his day, his infidentialy and alcoholism is not exactly the best role model you would want to aspire to.
He had his second chance of life when he had his liver transplant. Instead of embracing his new life, he just continued with the damaging life style that got him into trouble in the first place.
Everyone has to grow up and realise there are consequences for every action in life, its a shame that he never did and consequently died prematurely at 59.
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I have mixed feelings about George Best.
I can see where RedHot is coming from - it's not a disease in the classic sense but IMO it's a mental disease. .

Just for the record - alcoholism is classed in the DSM-IV of abnormal psychology.
I met George once - at a Sportsmans evening along with Rodney Marsh, the guy was emmense,
He was never phased by anything he was asked - he always had an answer
Saw him play once - even thet was majestic
Just a pity he couldnt get rid of his demons
There will never be another like him
Im just glad to say i met the man - and got his autograph
RIP George
Make sure you look Brian Up, share a glass together
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The man was a footballer, never tried to do any good except to suit himself, and his fantastic footballing skills (which I won't deny) were wasted.
C x

Says who exactly????He was a very kind man,never refused an autograph to anyone at any stop and spend time with must have been some good in the man if all of his friends and coworkers are so Football both made and broke him.
Yes its sad that he wasted the gift of a second chance BUT alcoholism is a disease and just imagine what it mustve been like to be unable to stop yourself even when you knew you were probably killing yourself.
R.I.P to a legend who did things many footballers can only dream about.
I beg to differ. Yes he was an out standing player, he undoubtedly had a natural talent few others have had, but he did not suffer from a disease.
i'm sorry, but i 100% disagree with you! addiction = disease!
i suspect you'll find that a physical addiction that requires the addict to satisfy his cravings before s/he can even begin to function in any kind of normal, everyday way, is just as much a disease as Diabetes. functional dependency = physical disease! full stop, exclamation mark!

The Oxford English Dictionary gives this definition of a disease:
" A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection or genetic defect and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.."
such as . . Delerium Tremens . . . a recognised medical condition and a symptom of Alcohol addiction with real and immediate physical consequences resulting from withdrawal. physical withdrawal symptoms MUST imply physical addiction! full stop, exclamation mark!?
He condition was not disease, he suffered one of human natures most cruel traits - self inflicted abuse of his mind and body, with little or no regard for himself or his family and friends confused
the defining characteristic of addiction is that the addict surrenders all control to his/her addiction! the addict can no longer control his/her own behaviour. that's what addiction means. it's a poisonous little beast, and it's oh so good at maintaining it's continued existence.
Of course his family and friends are upset. Yes they will undoubtedly miss him, but anyone who has known or been related to an alcoholic will know what a futile life they lead in real terms.
Whilst they slowly drink themselves into a stupor everyday, their families watch them disintegrate before their own eyes.
They will miss George as he was before drink took hold of him. They will miss what he was, what he could have been and what he threw away, every single time he put a glass to his lips.
George came from very humble beginnings and had a chance in life that so few people have. He made the big time and how! But he threw it all away, just like an empty beer can . . . .
do you not think he knew that? do you not think every single day george crucified himself for his failings, and for the damage he had done to his family and loved ones? do you not think there's reason enough to dive into a bottle? could you love yourself and live with yourself knowing you had caused so much pain, and thrown so much away?
Putting it into perspective, if you passed a pissed up tramp on the street, would you stop and give him the time of day? Of course you wouldn't! You'd hurry on by, thinking what a dreadful state to be in!
well actually . . . no . . . i couldn't walk on by . . . . hence the vocation i'm aiming for! ignorance is surely bliss! wish i could walk on by and ignore it. must be sooooo much easier! dunno
The only difference between that tramp and George is that he lived in relative affluence and could afford the best of everything, including booze.
His contemporary on the other hand, probably drinks the cheapest booze he can lay his hands on . . . to forget his terrible daily problems and try to black out his meaningless existence.
Both have a problem with booze, but oh how differently they get treated :?
well i know what you're saying, but no they don't! they both walk the same road, don't matter. millionaire or street bum, you get what you deserve. if you remedy your addiction, street bum or millionaire, you might get a shot at salvation? course that's so much harder with the NOTW following your every move, so which of them has it easier i wonder? :dunno:
Should one receive more accolade than the other, just because he could kick a ball around big style?
yes! cos despite his addiction, he gave pleasure to millions, and we knew of him, and loved him. i doubt the bum at the crypt begging for sandwiches ever came to our attention, which is a sad inditement i reckon? sad
Not in my opinion. For anyone who has watched a loved one kill themselves slowly with booze, I would say both types of alcoholic are the same - so wrapped up in their own world, that they fail to see further than the next glass or bottle and their own immediate short term needs. End of.
the very definition of addiction? that's what alcoholism is? but alcoholism is as individual as the addict themselves. and yep i've watched family members kill themselves. i've watched family members drown in their own blood and die before my very eyes. :(
They know they have a problem. Facing up to it is what most of them are unable to do and sadly they end up as George had - a shambling wreck of humanity :(
yep. crap innit? :(
Tracy-Jayne
just a quick post here goerge may have had a problem with alcohol & its easy to put him down for that but its not as easy as that!
alcoholism isnt as black & white as that,people have problems in there lives & without making a consious desision to become an alcoholic it can take over you & to get out of that isnt easy as any drinker smoker or drug addict can tell you!!
i lost my son a year & a week ago i always enjoyed a drink before & its the only thing that can put me to sleep at night (sometimes)
but it does creep up on you without you realising it its an escape from reality a way to shut your head off from everything thats going on around you a chance to sleep for more than an hour at a time
its easy to put someone down without knowing all the reasons why they are drinking/taking drugs
everyone has there own way of dealing with there problems
mine is the same as george others might be drugs but whatever way anyone has to cope with there problems
please dont put them down for it :cry: :cry: :cry: