G.U.M. Clinics

9 Jan 2008

Great thread ChaoticSpririt. It's great to see this thread taken as an education rather than a discussion thread. Like all walks of life there will always be people that take unneccesary risks in their lives and that includes safe(r) sex whilst involved in a swinging lifestyle.
We've been twice in the last 15 months and are open about our lifestyle, although never been given free condoms though rolleyes

Also to anyone that doesn't know you can get free Hep B jabs at the GUM clinic, they help protect you to the dangers (by no means completely protect you) and you have a 2 jabs a week apart (or was it 2 weeks?) then a booster a year later.
Personally I feel that we choose to adopt this lifestyle, put ourselves in a potentially risky situation, so we owe it to ourselves (and the whole community) to protect ourselves with sensible actions. I was amazed when researching the lifestyle (on here searching back posts) that safe sex wasn't really discussed and when threads do start on here they usually get contentious which is a shame as naturally there will all be people with differing opinions but I think it really is such an important one to air even if to get information across.
Should there be a list on SH? Yes I guess for reinforcement of good practice but if you can use a PC to swing online then you source a list of local GUM clinics surely.
And ATOMcom, worry not, most times we've been there's been equal genders there. We always go together to hold each others hands :inlove:
pink x

9 Jan 2008

Quote by blueandpink
And ATOMcom, worry not, most times we've been there's been equal genders there. We always go together to hold each others hands :inlove:
pink x

Maybe you could come with me and hand my hand.. hehehe
Andy

9 Jan 2008

chaotic, just in case any guys out there heard the same horror stories as me . . . . i was terrified of GUM clinics for years, and years. confused

apparently, they insert a steel umbrella up yer cock, and then just pull the rip cord, and scrape it back out? :shock: :scared:
in actual fact, it's a cotton bud round the tip, and a urine sample. smile

for most of them anyways? oh, and a blood test if you really insist on the full works? he was a very nice man, and he took my penis in his hand as though it was his own! lol

t'is genuinely a piece of the proverbial streaky yellow stuff? :)
n x x x ;)

9 Jan 2008

Quote by neilinleeds
chaotic, just in case any guys out there heard the same horror stories as me . . . . i was terrified of GUM clinics for years, and years. apparently, they insert a steel umbrella up yer cock, and then just pull the rip cord, and scrape it back out? :shock: :scared:
in actual fact, it's a cotton bud and a urine sample? for most of them anyways? oh, and a blood test if you really insist on the full works? he was a very nice man, and he took my penis in his hand as though it was his own! t'is genuinely a piece of the proverbial streaky yellow stuff?
n x x x ;)

Blue would agree Neil, it's not pleasant but mildly uncomfortable that's all. Far more comfortable than the contracting a STI that's for sure.

9 Jan 2008

Quote by blueandpink
Also to anyone that doesn't know you can get free Hep B jabs at the GUM clinic, they help protect you to the dangers (by no means completely protect you) and you have a 2 jabs a week apart (or was it 2 weeks?) then a booster a year later.

At my clinic you get 3 jabs, one month between each one. I went last week to have the test to make sure I'm fully immune and am waiting for the results of that. If it hasn't taken full effect I'll need a booster then.
I think the Hep B is an important one to mention, because it really seems that not many people know about it. As soon as I mentioned that my partner sometimes has oral with other males, I was advised to have the Hep B jabs. In this case, I'd imagine that most of us here should be having it done, because chances are that someone you shag from here has been with someone who's been with someone who's been with... well, you get the picture wink

9 Jan 2008

Hi,
not sure if anyone remebers, i started a thread awhile ago (in december) because whilst swinging and having sex with another male, the condom split. I was worried about a STI but was too scared and embarrassed to go to our local GUM clinic redface

. Anyway today i finally had the guts to go(helped by some of the responses to this thread, thanks!!!). It was not as bad as i thought. I am glad that i have been checked now and hope that everything is ok, which i will find out in 10 days. So thank you guys for sharing your opinions biggrin

.
Bye
Pheline X

9 Jan 2008

Quote by AngelnBudsy
At my clinic you get 3 jabs, one month between each one. I went last week to have the test to make sure I'm fully immune and am waiting for the results of that. If it hasn't taken full effect I'll need a booster then.
I think the Hep B is an important one to mention, because it really seems that not many people know about it. As soon as I mentioned that my partner sometimes has oral with other males, I was advised to have the Hep B jabs. In this case, I'd imagine that most of us here should be having it done, because chances are that someone you shag from here has been with someone who's been with someone who's been with... well, you get the picture

Well I didn't know that Angel so thank you. Next time I go for a check up, I will ask about it :thumbup:

9 Jan 2008

Quote by Dawnie

At my clinic you get 3 jabs, one month between each one. I went last week to have the test to make sure I'm fully immune and am waiting for the results of that. If it hasn't taken full effect I'll need a booster then.
I think the Hep B is an important one to mention, because it really seems that not many people know about it. As soon as I mentioned that my partner sometimes has oral with other males, I was advised to have the Hep B jabs. In this case, I'd imagine that most of us here should be having it done, because chances are that someone you shag from here has been with someone who's been with someone who's been with... well, you get the picture

Well I didn't know that Angel so thank you. Next time I go for a check up, I will ask about it :thumbup:
me too... thanks! Will add that to my usual raft of tests and checks at next appointment.
Worth knowing.
Nola x

9 Jan 2008

As soon as I mentioned that my partner sometimes has oral with other males, I was advised to have the Hep B jabs.

there is very much an increased risk for gay / bi men, and their partners. Hep B is just as easily transmitted by M on F oral contact, or F on M oral contact . . . i.e. not massively easily transmittable . . . but it's a very real risk all the same. M on M is easier, cos of the increased risk of broken skin versus semen, but any exchange whatsoever of body fluids with a Hep B carrier leaves you wide open to liver damage, regardless of sexuality.
in the UK, some stats will tell you that 1 in 1000 people are carriers? :shock: confused

n x x x ;)

10 Jan 2008

Hep C is actually a bigger risk and lives outside of the body (veins) for 3 months. It is also potentially fatal eg. if you don't respond to the long laborious treatment options.
Simple things are useful for reducing risks :- USE CONDOMS... (in edit- ) if you are going to brush your teeth ensure you Brush your teeth 20 - 40 mins prior to giving oral sex to anyone regardless of gender or sexuality. If doing bukkake.. make sure that the semen is not anywhere near broken skin. Wash throughlyafter sex. The list goes on.
If you keep yourself safe from Hep C, which is the most easy to get, then you are theoretically keeping yourself safe from all STI's.
and before anyone says anything I am well qualified to give out advice on this particular subject.

10 Jan 2008

Quote by splendid_
Brush your teeth 20 - 40 mins prior to giving oral sex to anyone regardless of gender or sexuality.

I don't want to sound like a thicko but I have to ask, why dunno

10 Jan 2008

Quote by Dawnie
Brush your teeth 20 - 40 mins prior to giving oral sex to anyone regardless of gender or sexuality.

I don't want to sound like a thicko but I have to ask, why dunno

That is a really sensible question. I am sorry for being unclear.
This is because brushing teeth can make your gums bleed (even a tiny amount) and when preventing transmission of any BBV's (Blood Bourne Virus) this reduces the risk. The longer you leave for your gums to recover from brushing the smaller the risk.

10 Jan 2008

Quote by splendid_
Brush your teeth 20 - 40 mins prior to giving oral sex to anyone regardless of gender or sexuality.

I don't want to sound like a thicko but I have to ask, why dunno

That is a really sensible question. I am sorry for being unclear.
This is because brushing teeth can make your gums bleed (even a tiny amount) and when preventing transmission of any BBV's (Blood Bourne Virus) this reduces the risk. The longer you leave for your gums to recover from brushing the smaller the risk.
So to make sure I understand, it's more a case of don't brush your teeth shortly before giving oral sex, rather than there being a benefit in brushing 20 to 40 minutes before?

10 Jan 2008

Quote by Unc
Brush your teeth 20 - 40 mins prior to giving oral sex to anyone regardless of gender or sexuality.

I don't want to sound like a thicko but I have to ask, why dunno

That is a really sensible question. I am sorry for being unclear.
This is because brushing teeth can make your gums bleed (even a tiny amount) and when preventing transmission of any BBV's (Blood Bourne Virus) this reduces the risk. The longer you leave for your gums to recover from brushing the smaller the risk.
So to make sure I understand, it's more a case of don't brush your teeth shortly before giving oral sex, rather than there being a benefit in brushing 20 to 40 minutes before?
:thumbup:

10 Jan 2008

Makes sense when you think about it :thumbup:
Thanks splendid kiss

10 Jan 2008

Quote by Dawnie
Makes sense when you think about it :thumbup:
Thanks splendid

you are welcome, although I was hoping for more of a passionkiss

10 Jan 2008

Splendid

assionkiss:

10 Jan 2008

On a similar note we were told not to floss your teeth even the day before, so we always do it two or three days before and let the gums heal in case of any bleeding.
On the teeth brushing front, we brush usually at least 2 hours before we play (flirting time gives a good space to most mmeets anyway)and never take toothbrushes for last min brushes
All makes sense but very few people seems to know about it, s spreading the word can only be good and if jst a handful of people trot off to get their Hep jabs then all the better.

10 Jan 2008

Oh. I never thought about the toothbrushing thing.
Thanks for bringing that up, I'll be extra vigilant with dental care ... or not, as the case may be! wink

10 Jan 2008

I believe that anyone who is sexually active should get themselves checked out at least 1 a year. Even if you're in a monogamous relationship.
I know it sounds bad but you can never be 100% sure that your partner has been faithful. It's not as if it costs anything, plus its a good time to get some flavoured condoms for free!!!
In the world of swinging it just makes sense to get yourselves checked.
Has anyones else GUM Clinic stopped making you sign the insurance waiver before the blood test? My clinic used to make you sign a doccy stating that you understand if the AIDS test comes back positive you won't be able to get insurance. The last couple of times I haven't had to sign it. Maybe that because I always use my real name and they can see that I've already signed it though.

10 Jan 2008

I don't have insurance but if I did, I'd give a false name to the GUM clinic (which you can) and lie on the insurance forms.

10 Jan 2008

Quote by Marya_Northeast
I don't have insurance but if I did, I'd give a false name to the GUM clinic (which you can) and lie on the insurance forms.

Ask them about the spot whilst your there.... rolleyes

10 Jan 2008

Quote by markz
I don't have insurance but if I did, I'd give a false name to the GUM clinic (which you can) and lie on the insurance forms.

Ask them about the spot whilst your there.... rolleyes

I did, they said tell markz to stop cumming on your face.

10 Jan 2008

Quote by blueandpink
Also to anyone that doesn't know you can get free Hep B jabs at the GUM clinic, they help protect you to the dangers (by no means completely protect you) and you have a 2 jabs a week apart (or was it 2 weeks?) then a booster a year later.
pink x

I had my Heb B jabs done free at my local surgery as I was going abroad to an *at risk* country..
My son had to have Heb B and all the sti's tests (now done reg)last year because of a rare blood disorder he has that makes him high risk of infections. Think it was mainly to make sure they had covered every possibility that he is safe and healthy as possible for himself and other people.

11 Jan 2008

You've started quite an interesting thread Chaos - well done. Yes I regularly go down and get tested - around every 6 months or so -- its worth it to know that you are less likely to pass anything on to your friends.
I also have had the hep B vaccination -- 3 jabs a week apart in my case - (I don't think they have one yet for hep C )
It's worth noting that although the viral diseases ( HIV etc) don't survive well in the environment of your mouth, some of the bacterial ones do (gonorrhoea for example) and unless you are using a condom for oral as well as penetration there is always a possibility.
Lastly -- If the government get their way -- ALL your medical records will be available online to "Authorised people" -- which would include your local council, Social Services, and police as well as the obvious medical ones -- although I'm not sure if GUM clinics would be exempt - anyone know ??

11 Jan 2008

there is a scheme called "Fastest" which run clinic in many towns and cities... they do a complete and thorough screening without you needing to go to an official GUM clinic, this is done without the need for a name and address...
Its run by the Terrence Higgins Trust and offers all the couselling etc you get from any GUM clinic, they are seeing more and more people coming to them for privacy reasons and state categorically that they will not share any information about you with anyone without your express permission.

11 Jan 2008

Quote by HJ

It's worth noting that although the viral diseases ( HIV etc) don't survive well in the environment of your mouth, some of the bacterial ones do (gonorrhoea for example) and unless you are using a condom for oral as well as penetration there is always a possibility.

Which reminds me, why do I hate having a sample taken from my mouth, it causes me to gag badly and yet I can put a cock in my mouth dunno

12 Jan 2008

Hi,
Same has happened to me too, and i've been annoyed as hell that the condom has either come off or split!! It's sooo frustrating when that happens, and yes.. i go to my local GUM clinic when that happens, as i need to make sure i am safe. The staff are very understanding and actually appreciated that i came in for the tests!
Sx

Quote by Pheline_Kevin
Hi,
not sure if anyone remebers, i started a thread awhile ago (in december) because whilst swinging and having sex with another male, the condom split. I was worried about a STI but was too scared and embarrassed to go to our local GUM clinic . Anyway today i finally had the guts to go(helped by some of the responses to this thread, thanks!!!). It was not as bad as i thought. I am glad that i have been checked now and hope that everything is ok, which i will find out in 10 days. So thank you guys for sharing your opinions .
Bye
Pheline X

12 Jan 2008

Quote by Dawnie
and yet I can put a cock in my mouth

You can? Looking forward to the 26th more than ever! rotflmao

12 Jan 2008

Quote by Unc

and yet I can put a cock in my mouth

You can? Looking forward to the 26th more than ever! rotflmao

Unc you really are heading for a smackbottom

:lol2:

Should SH Include a GUM Clinic Directory?