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HIV free, is it wrong to ask for proof ??

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we are new to the swinging scene, tho not new to 3 sums etc ( they just sorta happened).....we are hoping to meet regular friends and especially a regular male, we do like to see the white stuff fly and one of us likes a good drink!..... etc...... would people be offended if we asked to have test etc?..thank you P and O?
But what good would a test be? How do you know whether the person has become infected since they had the test?
I think it would depend on the individuals as to whether they would be offended or not.
It wouldn't offend me personally, but I'm not sure many people would be willing to test and not meet anyone else in the interim until you were happy they were clear though.
Unless we were looking to build a relationship of some sort, we would probably just not bother.
Jas
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I don't think you get a certificate 'proving' your status either.
I think it's up to the individual to take steps to protect their sexual health, finding out the risks with each activity etc.
Personally, I don't think it is worth risking HIV or any other infection, so always insist on condoms.
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I don't think you get a certificate 'proving' your status either.
I think it's up to the individual to take steps to protect their sexual health, finding out the risks with each activity etc.
Personally, I don't think it is worth risking HIV or any other infection, so always insist on condoms.

Fully agree SexyJo. My life means so much more to me than a bit of fun!
PandO6699, you need to take every precaution possible to minimise the risk of any type of infection but if you dont like the precautions, then it is just not worth taking the risk.
I personally I think it depends on who you play with - there is another couple me and SM met a few years ago, and play with on occaision - and it is bareback play, but it is because we know them very well, and we trust them to be careful ( and vice versa ) - but at the end of the day, it is a personal judgement call. Just because SM and me bareback with S. and K. doesn't mean we would with you, it only means we trust them enough to trust our lives to them.
I realise what I have said may cause me to get flamed by others - but it is my opinion, my judgement and I will stand by it.
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I personally I think it depends on who you play with - there is another couple me and SM met a few years ago, and play with on occaision - and it is bareback play, but it is because we know them very well, and we trust them to be careful ( and vice versa ) - but at the end of the day, it is a personal judgement call. Just because SM and me bareback with S. and K. doesn't mean we would with you, it only means we trust them enough to trust our lives to them.
I realise what I have said may cause me to get flamed by others - but it is my opinion, my judgement and I will stand by it.

I don't see why expressing your choices should get you flamed smokerjim - at the end of the day it is up to everyone to make that judgement call with each person they meet. At the end of the day respect for other peoples choices and making your own preferences clear are integral to swinging.
As far as being tested I agree that insisting on it with other people is a waste of time unless you can also trust them when they say they haven't had unprotected sex since the test - and if you trust them that much then there is already a very close bond there anyway.
Roger the Dragon.
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we are new to the swinging scene, tho not new to 3 sums etc ( they just sorta happened).....we are hoping to meet regular friends and especially a regular male, we do like to see the white stuff fly and one of us likes a good drink!..... etc...... would people be offended if we asked to have test etc?..thank you P and O?

If you approached us and asked for an HIV certificate before swinging, my response would be very swift 'thanks but no thanks/
If you are having sex in a way that left you exposed to infection, you are being reckless and foolhardy with your health, and the health of everyone you swing with. HIV is not the only infection you risk.
lhk
Kat
well as most have said it would prove nothing unless you insisted on a test on day of meeting and stayed by their side till they got results back, but what i would like to know is would you also be willing to take the test so we all know your clean too? wink
Your life is very precious, be careful, use common sense when playing around, but an aids test maybe to omuch of a drawn out affair and can still be a waste of time.
Not many people would have had an aids test already, even in the GU Clinic where the tests are carried out, they discourage the males from getting a test unless he's been exposed to a very high chance of infection, such as homosexual bareback sex or sleeping with known aids carriers, as they say it's quite rare for a male to catch it off a one off sexual encounter, it's usually the woman or the gay men who would be more likely to catch it, as they say.
And I believe you have to go through counceling before they give you the test, then you can get the results in writing, but you have to wait a few weeks before they get the results back, and it won't specify anything about what the test was for, for confidentiality reasons, it will just say 'recent test proved clear', or soemthing to that effect. It also takes upto 3 - 6 months to be picked up on and diagnosed in a test so you don't know what they may have caught within the last few months..
Bit of an ordeal for someone who just wants to cum all over you :twisted:
Things maybe different in your area or changed since I got the info though!
Yes the main point raised is the insurance problem if you admit to having a HIV test then you are admitting that you are possibly at higher risk and this will affect your insurance premiums
Counsilling is no longer required in most LHA's.
Insurance companies have had to change, also. There was a time when if you werre a single man over 35, they bumped your premium as you were possibly gay and that meant, to them, that you were gonna get HIV/AIDS and die.
This is the 21st century, people, not the 1980's.
Things have moved on.
This is a very informative web page that details how HIV is transmitted. Learned a few things myself there!!! :shock:
it is good to hear from all of you, we have thought of most of the info you gave us beforehand but it is excellent to have it thrown back at us....... we would agree to test ourselves but it does all seem impractical......just have to keep wearing the boots..thanks again all...P and O xx
ok maybe sounds like a daft question , but as dambuster said to us , theres no daft question just daft answers , so could someone tell us where we get the tests done is it just a trip to the doc asking for referal or do we have to go to a specific clinic?
, just want to get tested tto make sure ect , we play safe but would prefer to be able to test for reasurance as its something we do feel fairly nervous about redface
matt and crystal
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This is a very informative web page that details how HIV is transmitted. Learned a few things myself there!!! :shock:

...that's a fantastic link..well spotted. It should be required reading for all of us engaged in this lifestyle :shock:
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we are new to the swinging scene, tho not new to 3 sums etc ( they just sorta happened).....we are hoping to meet regular friends and especially a regular male, we do like to see the white stuff fly and one of us likes a good drink!..... etc...... would people be offended if we asked to have test etc?..thank you P and O?

can i ask why it is only HIV that you are worried about??? there are so many different STD's out there that can do damage..... and obviously if they have certificate saying they are HIV free, doesn't mean they don't have a range of other nasty things......
remember the "boots" are there for more than one reason.....
as it takes 6 months from exposure to HIV to expression of antibodies in the blood, the test only tells you were clean 6 months ago, and if you have the test so you can have unprotected sex then you will have been exposed to risk and could be infectious/infected. Obviously if you had unprotected sex, but otherwise are in a monogamous relationship, or have used barrier methods since then, for peace of mind (yours) you might want to do a test, but i don't think a third party would take your test result as proof of anything other than that you adopt a high-risk lifestyle!