Is it me or do I find the fact that someone on SH is posting and saying that they are HIV+ a little worrying ? OK It's good that she mentions it and that condoms must be worn but I get a bit of a chill when I see this. There are many unsafe posts on this forum asking for bareback and very experienced partners and we have to look at this in a honest and safe way.
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OK, now we have to be seriousl now.........
We understand and accept that we are not the most accepted, liked or even taken seriously people on this site (masters of the understatement). But just this once we do have something to say that comes from inside.
How many hundreds, no, maybe even thousands of posts have there been on this site knocking people for not being honest?
Now we love this site as much as anyone on here, and we challenge anyone, however many years they have been on here to say otherwise ………………….. We have been largely ignored by the majority, cursed at by a few, accepted by three ( you know who you are guys and thanks for the support) And that’s all good, we just love the site, but one thing we will not tolerate is injustice, now this site has always asked for the truth, has always promoted honesty in adds, and got pretty pissed off when liars have been found out ………………… We have no idea who this person is, but FFS give them a break, or would you rather that this person just advertised herself and said nothing? ………………. You decide, as for us…………………………. Well done girl, and thank you for your honesty, if you need a friend, give us a call.
We understand and accept that we are not the most accepted, liked or even taken seriously people on this site (masters of the understatement). But just this once we do have something to say that comes from inside.
How many hundreds, no, maybe even thousands of posts have there been on this site knocking people for not being honest?
Now we love this site as much as anyone on here, and we challenge anyone, however many years they have been on here to say otherwise ………………….. We have been largely ignored by the majority, cursed at by a few, accepted by three ( you know who you are guys and thanks for the support) And that’s all good, we just love the site, but one thing we will not tolerate is injustice, now this site has always asked for the truth, has always promoted honesty in adds, and got pretty pissed off when liars have been found out ………………… We have no idea who this person is, but FFS give them a break, or would you rather that this person just advertised herself and said nothing? ………………. You decide, as for us…………………………. Well done girl, and thank you for your honesty, if you need a friend, give us a call.
Sex God
I agree that telling you upfront is the right way but I can't help thinking there is a tendency for a lot of trust here just because this is a swinging site and 'we're all sane adults aren't we' - so whether yer clean or not goes unchallenged. Is this dangerous I wonder? You never know what a casual partner has got and they don't know know what the person they were with last week has got unless there is a clinical certificate saying they're clear - and that is only until their next partner so -- 
I know what your saying, but at first the add failed to mention her HIV status, it was up there for about 3 days, then she ammended it, I think she is good for being honest and I'm sure she finds herself in a very difficult situation if it is a real add, my comment was that isn't it a bit of a chill when we are directly reminded about the risks that are out there, and that having HIV+ people on a swinging site should make us all stop and think.
Sex God
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So the innocent are accused with the guilty?
Well what do you think if the consequences are contracting STDs?
isn't it a bit of a chill when we are directly reminded about the risks that are out there, and that having HIV+ people on a swinging site should make us all stop and think.
Think about what Traffic? As responsible individuals we should be aware of all kinds of stuff - being a member of a swinging site doesn't make this any more or less acute.
Sex God
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I know what your saying, but at first the add failed to mention her HIV status, it was up there for about 3 days, then she ammended it, I think she is good for being honest and I'm sure she finds herself in a very difficult situation if it is a real add, my comment was that isn't it a bit of a chill when we are directly reminded about the risks that are out there, and that having HIV+ people on a swinging site should make us all stop and think.
So what is scary is that she didn't post it for three days - not that she did post it (in the end). Been better if you'd said that in the first place then we wouldn't have all the red herrings, which are detracting from what is a serious debate on whether a site like this induces people to be less on their guard wrt STDs than they ought to be.
Orgasminator
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I know what your saying, but at first the add failed to mention her HIV status, it was up there for about 3 days, then she ammended it, I think she is good for being honest and I'm sure she finds herself in a very difficult situation if it is a real add, my comment was that isn't it a bit of a chill when we are directly reminded about the risks that are out there, and that having HIV+ people on a swinging site should make us all stop and think.
Surely it shouldn't have to take someone telling you they are HIV to make you "stop & think"?!!!
I'm not sure of your age but I was mid/late teens when AIDS first became a major issue & I have grown up with the awareness of the importance of safe sex, etc. The fact someone points out to me they are HIV+ doesn't affect me greatly except to feel empathy for them as I would anyone with a disease / illness.
I think the lady should be applauded for being honest and not made to feel any different from the rest on this site.
What concerns me greatly is the predilection for 'bare back' by other advertisers. I'm not knocking them for it, it is entirely up to them what they do, but it still makes me wonder if they are really aware of what they could be letting themselves in for. Maybe these are the ones that should be "stopping & thinking"???!!!
What scares me is that she is actually happy to swing.... Now I may be naive here but I for one would not contemplate swinging if I was HIV+.....
I'm sorry honest or not she shouldn't be allowed to have the ad.... You can all shoot me down in flames but thats how I feel....
This is not the sort of thing she should be considering doing if she is HIV+.... No matter how many precautions she takes there is always the risk of a condom breaking... No sorry I just cant condone it!!....
I'm sorry honest or not she shouldn't be allowed to have the ad.... You can all shoot me down in flames but thats how I feel....
This is not the sort of thing she should be considering doing if she is HIV+.... No matter how many precautions she takes there is always the risk of a condom breaking... No sorry I just cant condone it!!....
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, we just love the site, but one thing we will not tolerate is injustice, now this site has always asked for the truth, has always promoted honesty in adds, and got pretty pissed off when liars have been found out ………………… We have no idea who this person is, but FFS give them a break, or would you rather that this person just advertised herself and said nothing?
Firstly, this is an open forum, so the initial question, "Is it me or do I find the fact that someone on SH is posting and saying that they are HIV+ a little worrying ?" is a fair and honest question.
As far as I can see, the posts that follow all echo the sentiment that they admire the advertiser for her honesty, so I don't see the need for the "FFS give them a break comment."
For what it is worth, my opinion is that it is far better to know in advance whereby one can make an informed decision rather than finding out afterwards when the choices are somewhat limited.
I do find the pic of an unprotected penis entering a vagina a little perplexing though!!
:? :? OK - I appologise for my redherring post, I knew all the info but didn't translate it very weill in the first instance or the second actually ! - So yes she didn't mention she was HIV+ for the first 3 days which is a very big worry but the fact she did mention it in the ammendment was good of her but it still to me anyway a wake up call, it's easy to get carried away with the posts that want bareback sex and "come on me as you please" kind of thing, my gravest thought was that some guys are obviously very popular on this site and I'm sure they rack up lots of meetings, which just got me to thinking how quickly a STD could travel arround the community of SH. Now as responsible adults we all must take care of our own welfare, but it's easy to get lost in the desire of the opportunities that swinging gives us. So just a call out to you all to stay safe and have fun.
Orgasminator
Quote by Sgt Bilko
I do find the pic of an unprotected penis entering a vagina a little perplexing though!!
I was going to add this to my comment but thought it might be her long time partner / fellow HIV+ companion / etc.
Even if it is any of these I would have thought someone with HIV might be a little more 'selective' in the content of their pictures.
I'm sure that there are lots of people out there with HIV that would love to contact other people with the same condition. There is probably a website dedicated to it but I have no idea what it is.
Instead of villifying the girl can't we just point her in the right direction? I'm sure she'd be grateful for our help.
Steve
Instead of villifying the girl can't we just point her in the right direction? I'm sure she'd be grateful for our help.
Steve
Master of Sex
Quote by Traffic
OK - I appologise for my redherring post, I knew all the info but didn't translate it very weill in the first instance or the second actually !
That is bare faced lying for the first instance!
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So yes she didn't mention she was HIV+ for the first 3 days
what were you doing? sitting wanking over her picture for 3 days then got scared??? :x
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my gravest thought was that some guys are obviously very popular on this site and I'm sure they rack up lots of meetings, which just got me to thinking how quickly a STD could travel arround the community of SH
What is it to you if the do "rack up" a huge score, jealous?? it is none of your business if they do, im sure they are consenting adults and make sure they are properly protected, and even if they did catch something by not being careful, they as responsible adults in a swinging lifestyle would stop racking up their score and get themselves sorted first.
you said it yourself
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Now as responsible adults we all must take care of our own welfare
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but it's easy to get lost in the desire of the opportunities that swinging gives us
err... since when do you put your cock before your own health?
in my opinion i am going to disregard everything you have said considering you have already admitted to posting... a LIE.
and lying gets you nowhere
Now for the HIV thing, ok, so shes infected, surely she is aware the consequenses of infecting someone else, she lives with it on a day to day basis, and in this day and age you should be taking precautions anyway and not just for HIV, but for hepatitis and other nasties!
Quote by Traffic
my comment was that isn't it a bit of a chill when we are directly reminded about the risks that are out there, and that having HIV+ people on a swinging site should make us all stop and think
thats not what you originally said...
However, you should be thinking about it every time you think about having sex and not just giving it a passing thought when someone reminds you its out there!
again in my opinion and looking at your posting score, i have a feeling it is less to do with the fact that you have been reminded that HIV is still out there and more to do with getting a reaction from the regular posters (im not including myself in that, im too new for that)
Alan adds:
As adults we all chose what we are going to do and if this person comes out and says they are HIV and they have enough courage to admit it when the rest of the country wants to sweep it under the carpet, good on her!
Yes, HIV is a minefield, but if you look at the media these days there is always some new disease or new ailment that we have to worry about. If you are so worried about somebody saying the they have got something wrong with them, well then, it is up to you not to partake in these activities.
If you had a cold and you were to go into your office or you were to kiss somebody, would you be worried? Because if your not.. think of history, the spanish conquistadores went to south america and wiped out half an nation with the flu.
With HIV this is not the case as we keep on being told. You think that HIV is only transmitted sexually, what vacume have you been living in?
Due to blood transfusions, needles, and lack of prior knowledge or even just being born with the disease, it is not such a mystery now nor is it the death sentance that it once was.
There are hundereds of adverts on swinging sites and if this one gets you worried, you dont need to answer it! Not only that, there are hundereds of ad's on this site and the thousands more on other swinging sites... yet she is the only HIV positive swinger? i somehow doubt that statistic is true! She has the decency to admit it!
If you go out to a night club and meet somebody and you go back to their place and have sex do you go past the 24 hour HIV clinic to pick up your certificate or do you just go with the flow? and when you are having sex with someone, how many partners have you had in the past, and how many have you had, because if you found it easy to pick up a person, just think... Everybody else did too!
In the throws of passion, while your going... yes... yes... yesss.... more... more... more... and just as you are climaxing does your brain suddenly cut in and say "oh shit... HIV"? I doubt it!
In the end we have our lifestyle and you have yours but please dont try and predudice others with your lack of knowledge and understanding.
Love n Licks,
Nicola & Alan (a clean couple)
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Quote by Sgt Bilko
, we just love the site, but one thing we will not tolerate is injustice, now this site has always asked for the truth, has always promoted honesty in adds, and got pretty pissed off when liars have been found out ………………… We have no idea who this person is, but FFS give them a break, or would you rather that this person just advertised herself and said nothing?
Firstly, this is an open forum, so the initial question, "Is it me or do I find the fact that someone on SH is posting and saying that they are HIV+ a little worrying ?" is a fair and honest question.
As far as I can see, the posts that follow all echo the sentiment that they admire the advertiser for her honesty, so I don't see the need for the "FFS give them a break comment."
For what it is worth, my opinion is that it is far better to know in advance whereby one can make an informed decision rather than finding out afterwards when the choices are somewhat limited.
I do find the pic of an unprotected penis entering a vagina a little perplexing though!!
:? :?give it time
OK so am I gonna be the first to admit that I fell for a Tango Romeo Oscar Lima Lima ???
Bollox I almost admire him for his audacity……………………… almost ………………….. Wrong Suject, Wrong Place Wrong time…………………………grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Sorry just come home from a Pro Social Modelling Course,
u Banker :shock: :shock:
:twisted:
Bollox I almost admire him for his audacity……………………… almost ………………….. Wrong Suject, Wrong Place Wrong time…………………………grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Sorry just come home from a Pro Social Modelling Course,
u Banker :shock: :shock:
:twisted:
Master of Sex
Quote by Katien_n_John
OK so am I gonna be the first to admit that I fell for a Tango Romeo Oscar Lima Lima ???
didnt i get there first???
no matter im not gonna argue it! lol
Quote by JudyTV
I'm sure that there are lots of people out there with HIV that would love to contact other people with the same condition. There is probably a website dedicated to it but I have no idea what it is.
Instead of villifying the girl can't we just point her in the right direction? I'm sure she'd be grateful for our help.
Steve
There are websites and plenty of support units for people with HIV and or AIDS. In fact there are thousands. I am sure the medical people etc will have given her all the information she needs. They NEVER dump you on your own with this sort of thing. Anyway if she found this web site then she can no doubt find any of the ones required to assist her if she wants it. In fact if she types in to Google the word AIDS she will get 19,000,000 million hits.
Judy.
i was just about to say the same thing judy. anyone that has caught HIV would go through alot of counseling and would know not to swing as that would be playing russian roulette and acting in a frivalous way. i havent seen the add as its not loading or has been taken down but im guessing it was a total hoax. anyone with aids will know the devistation and the death sentance they now have, and would not want to risk passing it on to others. i actually had a very indepth convo with a cracking guy i met the other night who use to work in a G.U clinic and saw the effects of patients that had contracted H.I.V plus other things. and the amount of support and help a person with aids gets is outstanding. this girl if it was a girl at all had aids will have all the understanding and help already and i really doubt she would be swinging . i think the add was crap and ment to freak some people out.
