Hi everyone,
We're newbies and have had our first major timewaster here. Not going to name names but she was a single bi-fem who we got chattting to on MSN. We started chatting after she responded to an email we sent to her. We're fine with rejection, and don't consider people who say "no" as fakes. However, it seemed that all she was after was a pic.
Not going to go into the details of it all - we're not here to whinge. What we could really do is get some tips from the more experienced members. Thus far we've encountered plenty of "couples" in which the female is strangely absent or has no input - and this is our frist time being stung by a bi-fem. Do you have to wade through many fakes to meet genuine people in the community in general - or are we just naive in the way we acted?
any advice welcome...
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How to spot fakes.....
Sex God
Quote by raunchyrabbitsRubbish! SO people who don't have webcams aren't genuine!???
Yes there's lots of them about. Couples who aren't really couples - just the male half who has registered, put pics up, etc, without telling his partner. Single females who are actually just single men who think it's funny to try and fool people. Or men posing as women in order to collect pictures, which they then use to pose as women elsewhere again.
The best way to confirm someone's identity before meeting them is to see them on webcam. Genuine people will be ok with this, but if when you ask to see them on webcam they say things like "oh we keep meaning to get one but haven't got around to it" or "oh our webcam is broken blah blah blah" then be wary.
I agree with your first part of your reply however the second bit is completely off the mark as many genuine couples dont have a webcam or have one but are not sure how to use it. Or if youre like me, have one and lost it when decorating and the darn thing wont turn up no matter where I look for the sodding thing. It doesnt mean Im not genuine
Im also reluctant to go on webcam as Ive had people take screen shots of me and then mail them back to me, so be wary about that, but thats easily solved by keeping your kit on for a bit!
Although I do acknowledge that those excuses youve said about can be used often by time wasters, however there are always other means of estabilshing the person is who they say but then they still might not turn up on the day! Its about gut feelings with things and keeping in touch with the people youre planning on meeting.
What works for one person wont work for another so a blanket response wont really do you any good, suppose it really is a case of practice makes perfect. if you feel there is a sniff of something wrong or it doesnt feel "right" then ususually its dodgy. A simple mail telling them you dont want to meet might go down like a sack of lead balloons but its ten times better than a bad meeting.
Gem. x
Sex God
Hi there we are quite new to this as well! We don't have a webcam but do talk to people on our mobiles before we meet. This shows that we are a couple & genuine. Whatever you do there are always time wasters. There are a lot of genuine peope on this site though just keep searching!!
Take care
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Take care
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I agree that there are a lot of timewasters on here, and it's not just the (supposed) couples and females. Many of the men are just as bad, as you might be aware if you've read the threads about guys not turning up for meets.
Another tip I can give is to check out any website the person may have, or any pics they may have posted. Check for consistancy of pics...............is that the same pussy in every shot, or are there differences? Does the body type take a dramatic change from one pic to another? Consistency isn't a 100% sure-fire guarantee that the person isn't a timewaster, but it might at least prove that it isn't just a pic collecter sending random snaps of other people.
Another tip I can give is to check out any website the person may have, or any pics they may have posted. Check for consistancy of pics...............is that the same pussy in every shot, or are there differences? Does the body type take a dramatic change from one pic to another? Consistency isn't a 100% sure-fire guarantee that the person isn't a timewaster, but it might at least prove that it isn't just a pic collecter sending random snaps of other people.
Quote by raunchyrabbitsRubbish! SO people who don't have webcams aren't genuine!???
Yes there's lots of them about. Couples who aren't really couples - just the male half who has registered, put pics up, etc, without telling his partner. Single females who are actually just single men who think it's funny to try and fool people. Or men posing as women in order to collect pictures, which they then use to pose as women elsewhere again.
The best way to confirm someone's identity before meeting them is to see them on webcam. Genuine people will be ok with this, but if when you ask to see them on webcam they say things like "oh we keep meaning to get one but haven't got around to it" or "oh our webcam is broken blah blah blah" then be wary.
I agree with your first part of your reply however the second bit is completely off the mark as many genuine couples dont have a webcam or have one but are not sure how to use it. Or if youre like me, have one and lost it when decorating and the darn thing wont turn up no matter where I look for the sodding thing. It doesnt mean Im not genuine
Im also reluctant to go on webcam as Ive had people take screen shots of me and then mail them back to me, so be wary about that, but thats easily solved by keeping your kit on for a bit!
Although I do acknowledge that those excuses youve said about can be used often by time wasters, however there are always other means of estabilshing the person is who they say but then they still might not turn up on the day! Its about gut feelings with things and keeping in touch with the people youre planning on meeting.
What works for one person wont work for another so a blanket response wont really do you any good, suppose it really is a case of practice makes perfect. if you feel there is a sniff of something wrong or it doesnt feel "right" then ususually its dodgy. A simple mail telling them you dont want to meet might go down like a sack of lead balloons but its ten times better than a bad meeting.
Gem. x
No it's not rubbish. How much is a webcam, £20? If people are prepared to spend £15 a month or £50 a year or whatever to join a swinging site (not SH maybe, but SH is not the only swinging site in the whole world remember) but are not prepared to spend £20 on a webcam and show their faces on it, what are they hiding? And using a webcam is usually as simple as plugging it in and running messenger or clicking the webcam icon in the chatroom - if they can't manage that how on earth did they sign up in the first place? In our experience, most of the people that have tried to chat to us but come up with excuses as to why we can't see them on cam, have turned out to be fakes.
There may well be genuine people out there who don't have a webcam, but we have taken to only chatting to those couples with a view to meeting them, if we can see them first. It not only confirms that they are who they say they are, but also confirms that they are swinging as a couple, and it's not just the male partner trying to get his rocks off.
Yes, webcams may be a good way for couples to verify other couples, but in our case I certainly wouldn't ever use a webcam. We are only looking for single males, and I would never take the risk of using a webcam only to then face the possibility of seeing my face plastered all over the web by some single guy pretending he was either me, or I was his partner. Vague possibility, perhaps...............but that kind of thing DOES happen.
Sex God
Anything which is transmitted over the internet can be captured and kept!!
We are a couple, and have met many of the regulars and Mods from this site, but we would NOT ever use a webcam as we wish to preserve our anonimity. When we put photos on a site we can carefull examine the content and backgrounds on the photos to ensure it only shows that which we are happy with. In a real time enviroment such as a web cam, some info which you want to keep for yourself might leak out.
We initially contact other people via email, exchange a few details, then ALL talk on the (mobile) phone. We offer several alternate dates for a meet, always a public venue or preferably a swingers club. If the other people can't match one of the several offered we would suspect they are timewasters and then say "well contact us back with some dates of your own"
Can say that only once have we been let down by another couple on the night of a meet.
John & Shel
We are a couple, and have met many of the regulars and Mods from this site, but we would NOT ever use a webcam as we wish to preserve our anonimity. When we put photos on a site we can carefull examine the content and backgrounds on the photos to ensure it only shows that which we are happy with. In a real time enviroment such as a web cam, some info which you want to keep for yourself might leak out.
We initially contact other people via email, exchange a few details, then ALL talk on the (mobile) phone. We offer several alternate dates for a meet, always a public venue or preferably a swingers club. If the other people can't match one of the several offered we would suspect they are timewasters and then say "well contact us back with some dates of your own"
Can say that only once have we been let down by another couple on the night of a meet.
John & Shel
Quote by raunchyrabbits
As the female in a couple looking for single men, maybe you don't need to show your face - but you can always ask the guy to show his face and then you can be sure he is the same person as the one in his pics and that they're not 10 year old pics - or stolen off someone else's webcam in the way you describe.
Yep, had that scenario! But more like 20 years old!
At the end of the day though, it's the guy that loses out, not us. We always arrange our meets close to home.................if the guy has driven 150 miles and ends up going home with nothing because he has lied or mis-led us............that's his problem. At the end of the day, honesty is the best policy.
Sex God
Thats part of the excitement not knowing who they are & getting to know them first! If you have doubts don't respond!!
Warming the Bed
I think some of the regulars here are getting a little hung up about timewasting.
To a large extent, we have to take people at face value - I mean, does anyone insist on a doctor's certificate to say that someone new is fully healthy? - and be realistic that things don't always go according to plan.
For example, I met a couple just before Christmas socially. They were newbies, interested in a threesome. We got on well, with the verbal promise of fun and games in January. When I spoke to them last week, they had changed their minds - deal's off. They had wasted my time, true. Were they 'timewasters'? No, just human beings who - for whatever reason - had changed their minds. Humans are allowed to do that!
To a large extent, we have to take people at face value - I mean, does anyone insist on a doctor's certificate to say that someone new is fully healthy? - and be realistic that things don't always go according to plan.
For example, I met a couple just before Christmas socially. They were newbies, interested in a threesome. We got on well, with the verbal promise of fun and games in January. When I spoke to them last week, they had changed their minds - deal's off. They had wasted my time, true. Were they 'timewasters'? No, just human beings who - for whatever reason - had changed their minds. Humans are allowed to do that!
Sex God
just cause you aint got a cam or wont use it dont mean yuor not a gen person its your choice if you wana show or not ,we use the phone for f2f chat ,we had a meet aranged with a single bi fem ,we like to chat for a week or 2 first get to know each other then maybe meet socialy then decide if we want or the other concerned wants to take it further,any way we chat on msn a few days she told us she meets a married male every now and again ,her choice not knocking her and nothing to do with us,any way one night some one pops up for to add them ,so added them and asks who are you ?"oh i am blah blah " the fem has said she gona meet up with you two and says to add to you so we can meet as a foursome for that was without asking us 1 to add him 2 we would never meet up with any one cheating on there partners again thats there choice if they are cheating but its our choice that we dont wana meet was the fact that she thought she could set this up without even asking us ,so now we will never meet her ,if she had asked us and we had said no ,we would of met her and it was her who contacted us can you tell a time waster well that hard to explain some let there selfs out by asking for cam "but we aint got 1" the mrs now asks for f2f phone call even for a cpl of mins .but with sites charging now think ppl who pay and tell lies are wasting there own time and money 
Quote by blueocean
Yes it does Shireen_mids it means you're a complete fake we've all known about it we just humour you and take the piss when you're out of the room.:rotflmao: :rotflmao:
:smackbottom: :smackbottom::rotflmao: And you take the piss when I am in the room as well :shock:
:lol:Ya bad lot
Shireen
xxx
we have webcam and are happy to share - but we never show our faces on cam. That is for meets only. We used to send pic via email with face on but we don't anymore - rude people not sending back thanks but no thanks after we had chatted for a time on email.
There are no sure fie ways of ensuring initial contacts are genuine. Some back out cos of genuine reasons and some yes are just after the pics etc.
We just have to hope that there are other people who are out there who are as genuine as us - not everyone is.
Genuine will always reply with some answer - yes or no - offence is never taken or given by those who really do want to enjoy this lifestyle.
So simple advice is - for all the disappointments - the true meets and friendships will outweigh x x x
There are no sure fie ways of ensuring initial contacts are genuine. Some back out cos of genuine reasons and some yes are just after the pics etc.
We just have to hope that there are other people who are out there who are as genuine as us - not everyone is.
Genuine will always reply with some answer - yes or no - offence is never taken or given by those who really do want to enjoy this lifestyle.
So simple advice is - for all the disappointments - the true meets and friendships will outweigh x x x
Sex God
we were chatting with a cpl once ,then one day i was not at work the male of the other cpl asked me to cam with him (mind you he thought he was chatting to the mrs)told him in chats before we dont cam when there are only one of us there ,he then asked well do did i wana see him strokeing ,told him i was deleteing and blocking him which i did ,months later we olaced a dogging meet add and a cpl answered it we went out met them had some erotic fun enjoyed went home ,any way few days later on a different site we read a story thanking us the cpl in the blah blah car up at blah carpark ,and i felt really appalled to find out it was the same man who said about the camming ,forgot to add before when i told him i was blocking him he sent a email saying it was my wife who was asking him to cam ,but it was me he was talking to, when we agreed to meet for the dogging meet it was from a different email addy just shows sometimes things come out in the wash :twisted:
We are having trouble arranging a meet with people that have contacted us. We post pictures freely, making sure there are no facial shots. I have even given a mobile phone number out for them to give me a call, and so far zilch. The only good "solid" contact lives hundreds of miles away, just our luck eh?
Fingers crossed, we hope to meet someone, sometime.
Fingers crossed, we hope to meet someone, sometime.
Master of Sex
One solution I've seen used on other sites would be to have a referral scheme where a member on here could be vouched for by other members who know them.
Of course this is still open to abuse and there's no definite way knowing what someone is really like until after you've met them (and even then there's the risk that they aren't what they first seem) but it might help.
The only minor concern I'd have to this is that it makes things difficult for new members if the majority already have verification - when you're on the outside trying to get known, it can be hard getting that first contact.
I've been in a situation recently on here where a bloke who was nervous about meeting another man for the first time had two issues: (a) general nerves and (b) not knowing whether I was genuine or not. I therefore contacted someone else who I'd already met on here and asked if he'd be prepared to vouch for me.
Of course this is still open to abuse and there's no definite way knowing what someone is really like until after you've met them (and even then there's the risk that they aren't what they first seem) but it might help.
The only minor concern I'd have to this is that it makes things difficult for new members if the majority already have verification - when you're on the outside trying to get known, it can be hard getting that first contact.
I've been in a situation recently on here where a bloke who was nervous about meeting another man for the first time had two issues: (a) general nerves and (b) not knowing whether I was genuine or not. I therefore contacted someone else who I'd already met on here and asked if he'd be prepared to vouch for me.
I agree with Raunchyrabbits. We too have had many single males purporting to be a couple. We have a simple rule, we will only chat with another couple once we have seen them both on webcam. We assure the other couple that we will only chat when we are all 4 of us together at the same time, and then we will show ourselves on cam.
After that, we are happy to talk in text only, but we have assured ourselves by that point of the other couple's genuinity.
Thats not to say that even having another couple on webcam is a complete assurance of the fact that the other couple are genuine. We once had contact with a couple who, although they appeared together on cam occasionally sitting together, we eventually realised that the female of the couple was unaware that her partner was actually chatting at the time with us. She was simply sitting beside him on occasions but she never joined in any conversations. I can only assume that he had some other webpages up when we were trying to have a conversation!!
On our ad, we state clearly that we will establish genuinity via webcam before chatting any further. This really weeds out those non-genuine people. It is amazing just how many times we've heard the comment "well it's only Dave here at the moment, Sue is out this evening" (Substitute Dave and Sue for any other name you care to think of)
I can't really understand why a single man should go to such trouble to contact a couple who have stated that they are not interested in single blokes. Surely they realise that they will be found out very quickly to be non-genuine??
I would say that the golden rules are
1. Put in your ad that you will only talk to couples verified by webcam messenger
or if webcam is a problem,
2. You request a telephone number that you can let both women chat to each other
These two steps are vital to weed out the fakers. Also you can go to Tesco and buy a sim card for a couple of quid which will give you a phone number so you can put this in your mobile and give it out as a contact number for the females to confirm that they are genuine.
To avoid picture collectors, you strictly tell any contact that you will not send any pictures until you have established some sort of confirmed contact with the other couple. We don't simply start sending pics 10 minutes after chatting to even a GENUINE couple on here!! We like to get to know them a bit, and after a few webcam chats then we will probably exchange a few pictures.
Obviously some couples are happy to chat to and receive contact from single males, but guys, for the rest of us who explicitly state that we are not looking for single males to join us, Please don't contact us pretending to be a couple because it just won't get you anywhere. It wastes everybody's time and is pointless.
Well I've got that off my chest lol!
After that, we are happy to talk in text only, but we have assured ourselves by that point of the other couple's genuinity.
Thats not to say that even having another couple on webcam is a complete assurance of the fact that the other couple are genuine. We once had contact with a couple who, although they appeared together on cam occasionally sitting together, we eventually realised that the female of the couple was unaware that her partner was actually chatting at the time with us. She was simply sitting beside him on occasions but she never joined in any conversations. I can only assume that he had some other webpages up when we were trying to have a conversation!!
On our ad, we state clearly that we will establish genuinity via webcam before chatting any further. This really weeds out those non-genuine people. It is amazing just how many times we've heard the comment "well it's only Dave here at the moment, Sue is out this evening" (Substitute Dave and Sue for any other name you care to think of)
I can't really understand why a single man should go to such trouble to contact a couple who have stated that they are not interested in single blokes. Surely they realise that they will be found out very quickly to be non-genuine??
I would say that the golden rules are
1. Put in your ad that you will only talk to couples verified by webcam messenger
or if webcam is a problem,
2. You request a telephone number that you can let both women chat to each other
These two steps are vital to weed out the fakers. Also you can go to Tesco and buy a sim card for a couple of quid which will give you a phone number so you can put this in your mobile and give it out as a contact number for the females to confirm that they are genuine.
To avoid picture collectors, you strictly tell any contact that you will not send any pictures until you have established some sort of confirmed contact with the other couple. We don't simply start sending pics 10 minutes after chatting to even a GENUINE couple on here!! We like to get to know them a bit, and after a few webcam chats then we will probably exchange a few pictures.
Obviously some couples are happy to chat to and receive contact from single males, but guys, for the rest of us who explicitly state that we are not looking for single males to join us, Please don't contact us pretending to be a couple because it just won't get you anywhere. It wastes everybody's time and is pointless.
Well I've got that off my chest lol!
Sexpert
it all sounds nightmarish
i dont give or offer pics or cam verification and i dont want or request them. The only number people ever get is my mobile, never my landline.... and if i meet anyone i meet them away from my home before allowing them back to my place.
I probably meet less because of not offering pics, but my gain is probably the reduction in the percentage of fakers.
having said all that i personally prefer not knowing what people look like as it adds to the excitement
i dont give or offer pics or cam verification and i dont want or request them. The only number people ever get is my mobile, never my landline.... and if i meet anyone i meet them away from my home before allowing them back to my place.
I probably meet less because of not offering pics, but my gain is probably the reduction in the percentage of fakers.
having said all that i personally prefer not knowing what people look like as it adds to the excitement
Quote by raunchyrabbitsRubbish! SO people who don't have webcams aren't genuine!???
Yes there's lots of them about. Couples who aren't really couples - just the male half who has registered, put pics up, etc, without telling his partner. Single females who are actually just single men who think it's funny to try and fool people. Or men posing as women in order to collect pictures, which they then use to pose as women elsewhere again.
The best way to confirm someone's identity before meeting them is to see them on webcam. Genuine people will be ok with this, but if when you ask to see them on webcam they say things like "oh we keep meaning to get one but haven't got around to it" or "oh our webcam is broken blah blah blah" then be wary.
I agree with your first part of your reply however the second bit is completely off the mark as many genuine couples dont have a webcam or have one but are not sure how to use it. Or if youre like me, have one and lost it when decorating and the darn thing wont turn up no matter where I look for the sodding thing. It doesnt mean Im not genuine
Im also reluctant to go on webcam as Ive had people take screen shots of me and then mail them back to me, so be wary about that, but thats easily solved by keeping your kit on for a bit!
Although I do acknowledge that those excuses youve said about can be used often by time wasters, however there are always other means of estabilshing the person is who they say but then they still might not turn up on the day! Its about gut feelings with things and keeping in touch with the people youre planning on meeting.
What works for one person wont work for another so a blanket response wont really do you any good, suppose it really is a case of practice makes perfect. if you feel there is a sniff of something wrong or it doesnt feel "right" then ususually its dodgy. A simple mail telling them you dont want to meet might go down like a sack of lead balloons but its ten times better than a bad meeting.
Gem. x
No it's not rubbish. How much is a webcam, £20? If people are prepared to spend £15 a month or £50 a year or whatever to join a swinging site (not SH maybe, but SH is not the only swinging site in the whole world remember) but are not prepared to spend £20 on a webcam and show their faces on it, what are they hiding? And using a webcam is usually as simple as plugging it in and running messenger or clicking the webcam icon in the chatroom - if they can't manage that how on earth did they sign up in the first place? In our experience, most of the people that have tried to chat to us but come up with excuses as to why we can't see them on cam, have turned out to be fakes.
There may well be genuine people out there who don't have a webcam, but we have taken to only chatting to those couples with a view to meeting them, if we can see them first. It not only confirms that they are who they say they are, but also confirms that they are swinging as a couple, and it's not just the male partner trying to get his rocks off.
We don't have a web cam and not really keen on them but we think munches have helped us in confirming that we are a genuine couple....
Have read this post with much interest and there is a lot of sound advice given.
when we just started out on SH we were very niave as to what to do,how to spot fakes (we took everyone to be trustworthy), and the accepted method of conduct that many of us have now become accustomed to using to ensure we have a safe,genuine time on here.
we have had a really, really bad experience on here where a "girl" called "sam" who claimed to be a single bi-fem from newcastle contacted us. as we were new we happilly sent a few "risque" snaps that had both our faces on them and a few of rach on her own. then after a couple of days and a few snaps of "her" (from and of some other unsuspecting girl i imagine) she disappeared when we asked for a fem/fem phone chat after getting some hints and tips from the fantastic Blue xxx!!
we thought nothing more untill we were contacted again by this "girl" asking for more photos so we said, ok if you phone us and we say hi then ok. gave our number and "ring,ring" the phone goes rach picked up to a voice that sounded distinctively male trying to put on a female voice (looking back now this is comedy indeed)!!
to cap this story off we contacted a cpl who came on line via msn, they seemed great but on our second chat seemed very different, hostile even. we asked as to why and they said "can we call you ?" "yeah" we said so they did, rach spoke to the girl and said a quick hello etc. when the convo had ended they said "now we know you are genuine can we show you a picture we have of you?" we were like WTF??? :shock: , as we had not sent them any. as it turns out they were being sent sent pics of rach claiming to be "rach" as a single bi fem.!! the only way they realsied what was going on was when they saw our photo on the side of msn and must have recognised it and thought "hmmm we have seen this before and these aint the same ppl"
Just goes to show you got to be SO carefull! We have learnt from our mistakes and if this little story can save anyone else the same, then the blisters on my fingertips have been worth it!!!!
ALWAYS ask for a fem/fem phone chat before pic swapping, or cam if they and you are willing!
And if it seems too good to be true, it usually is
when we just started out on SH we were very niave as to what to do,how to spot fakes (we took everyone to be trustworthy), and the accepted method of conduct that many of us have now become accustomed to using to ensure we have a safe,genuine time on here.
we have had a really, really bad experience on here where a "girl" called "sam" who claimed to be a single bi-fem from newcastle contacted us. as we were new we happilly sent a few "risque" snaps that had both our faces on them and a few of rach on her own. then after a couple of days and a few snaps of "her" (from and of some other unsuspecting girl i imagine) she disappeared when we asked for a fem/fem phone chat after getting some hints and tips from the fantastic Blue xxx!!
we thought nothing more untill we were contacted again by this "girl" asking for more photos so we said, ok if you phone us and we say hi then ok. gave our number and "ring,ring" the phone goes rach picked up to a voice that sounded distinctively male trying to put on a female voice (looking back now this is comedy indeed)!!
to cap this story off we contacted a cpl who came on line via msn, they seemed great but on our second chat seemed very different, hostile even. we asked as to why and they said "can we call you ?" "yeah" we said so they did, rach spoke to the girl and said a quick hello etc. when the convo had ended they said "now we know you are genuine can we show you a picture we have of you?" we were like WTF??? :shock: , as we had not sent them any. as it turns out they were being sent sent pics of rach claiming to be "rach" as a single bi fem.!! the only way they realsied what was going on was when they saw our photo on the side of msn and must have recognised it and thought "hmmm we have seen this before and these aint the same ppl"
Just goes to show you got to be SO carefull! We have learnt from our mistakes and if this little story can save anyone else the same, then the blisters on my fingertips have been worth it!!!!
ALWAYS ask for a fem/fem phone chat before pic swapping, or cam if they and you are willing!
And if it seems too good to be true, it usually is
Sex God
the mrs runs her own cpls wiv bifem group and a new cpl joined sent us a email saying that cpl xxx were there pics ,yes another probs single useing there pics mind good thing to come out of it we got to play with them .
Sexpert
As a single guy and new on the block. I assume I'm gonna be the villian of the piece lol. I expect that I will be treated as a fake untill I can prove that I'm not. I'm not thinking that's unreasonable either. Whatever methods it takes for me to prove i'm no waster I will, and so will any other genuine people I think. of course as a single guy it's unlikely that anyone will try and use my pics ( devilishly good tho they are lol ).
I think a couple of thinks are universal tho...
1) Text is easy to forge ( I could be Bi-Fem and winding you up )
2) A static Pic could be lifted from anywhere.
So that kinda leaves you with Voice or Video. If you afraid someone may lift your pics use Voice.
I agree with the idea of using a PAYG sim for contacts but it does have it's drawbacks.
Just a thought tho ! you can show someone your pics via MSN without sending them if you load pics into your display pic, as the viewer doesn't get a copy of the pic at their end. Just bare in mind that anyone else in your contact list can see the same pic so use a different account to the one you use for friends and family. This way you can show pics of yourself without distributing copies !
I guess there's no surefire way of detecting fakes. and by the time you've decided they're genuine the genuine folks may have already thought you were wasting their time. It's a judgement call ! You may not always get right but the most important thing is to stay safe and have fun.
Rob
I think a couple of thinks are universal tho...
1) Text is easy to forge ( I could be Bi-Fem and winding you up )
2) A static Pic could be lifted from anywhere.
So that kinda leaves you with Voice or Video. If you afraid someone may lift your pics use Voice.
I agree with the idea of using a PAYG sim for contacts but it does have it's drawbacks.
Just a thought tho ! you can show someone your pics via MSN without sending them if you load pics into your display pic, as the viewer doesn't get a copy of the pic at their end. Just bare in mind that anyone else in your contact list can see the same pic so use a different account to the one you use for friends and family. This way you can show pics of yourself without distributing copies !
I guess there's no surefire way of detecting fakes. and by the time you've decided they're genuine the genuine folks may have already thought you were wasting their time. It's a judgement call ! You may not always get right but the most important thing is to stay safe and have fun.
Rob
Sex God
Quote by Fred aka Medic 1
Just had a quick read of this thread and I can not see any place with all these misdemeanours, where known, have been reported to the Mods or Admin.
Makes me wonder just how fake these people are .
Phredd
There are some nasty people ot there, believe it or not people mail in with accusations against others being false if they get rejected, I don't know what the solution is but SH needs something.
We did think about introducing a verification system but it's been suggested before and got a really bad reception. Maybe we could work on the MyFiends to display who has Friends.
What surprises me is how many men pretend to be women so as to be able to receive pics and/or 'dirty' talk, particularly webcam. There are many more adverts by men seeking men, the gay male seems very adequately catered for...why do they get in touch with men who don't advertise to them?
im not sure what the awnser is.
i know on another site there is an oppertunity to have people youve met leave a testimonial on your profile, you can choose to show or hide this.
this can still be open to faking i guess but if its left from a respected member of sh then i guess youd believe it?
the good thing about this site is its uk run by real people, so if you discover a fake you report it and they will take action. on another iste im on i noticed my pics were being used on a bi fem ad, when i reported this to say thses are my pics they are a fake nothing was done.
i would like to take this opp to say i think its great that the admin do contribute on the threads, shows us you are human and will respond.
xxxxx lou xxxxxxxxxx
real woman and true whore lol
i know on another site there is an oppertunity to have people youve met leave a testimonial on your profile, you can choose to show or hide this.
this can still be open to faking i guess but if its left from a respected member of sh then i guess youd believe it?
the good thing about this site is its uk run by real people, so if you discover a fake you report it and they will take action. on another iste im on i noticed my pics were being used on a bi fem ad, when i reported this to say thses are my pics they are a fake nothing was done.
i would like to take this opp to say i think its great that the admin do contribute on the threads, shows us you are human and will respond.
xxxxx lou xxxxxxxxxx
real woman and true whore lol
Warming the Bed
This is a terrific thread - well done to Snesh for getting the ball rolling. :thumbup: :thumbup:
There's some great advice doing the rounds - I hope it gets acted on by all serious swingers in SH.
I'll add my latest pennyworth...
Fakes roam the Net looking for likely opportunities - just like petty criminals who look for an open window. We'd all help ourselves a lot if we took a few simple precautions not to attract them.
Take pic collectors for example. I can't imagine what they get out of it - me and my sheltered background, I suppose. But they'll be attracted to SH because the ads are jam-packed with the kind of photos pic-collectors go for. Honestly, there's enough pussy on show to keep a convention of gynaecologists happy for months... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Now, I'm speaking for myself here. But if you're female, I'll take it on trust that you have a pussy. (I paid attention in sex education classes at school :shock:
:D ) I'll also take it on trust if you tell me it's trimmed / shaved / pierced / got a darling little tattoo of Donald Duck on it. I don't need photographic proof!
What do other single males think?
There's some great advice doing the rounds - I hope it gets acted on by all serious swingers in SH.
I'll add my latest pennyworth...
Fakes roam the Net looking for likely opportunities - just like petty criminals who look for an open window. We'd all help ourselves a lot if we took a few simple precautions not to attract them.
Take pic collectors for example. I can't imagine what they get out of it - me and my sheltered background, I suppose. But they'll be attracted to SH because the ads are jam-packed with the kind of photos pic-collectors go for. Honestly, there's enough pussy on show to keep a convention of gynaecologists happy for months... :shock: :shock: :shock:
Now, I'm speaking for myself here. But if you're female, I'll take it on trust that you have a pussy. (I paid attention in sex education classes at school :shock:
:D ) I'll also take it on trust if you tell me it's trimmed / shaved / pierced / got a darling little tattoo of Donald Duck on it. I don't need photographic proof!What do other single males think?
Sex God
Quote by st3v3
Just had a quick read of this thread and I can not see any place with all these misdemeanours, where known, have been reported to the Mods or Admin.
Makes me wonder just how fake these people are .
Phredd
There are some nasty people ot there, believe it or not people mail in with accusations against others being false if they get rejected, I don't know what the solution is but SH needs something.
We did think about introducing a verification system but it's been suggested before and got a really bad reception. Maybe we could work on the MyFiends to display who has Friends.
St3v3, this is a great idea in theory but I've been here coming up to two years in the original chatroom and I've learned the hard way a couple of times about who is and who isn't genuine without having a list of people to refer to as genuine.
You learn the responses of people wanting nothing but pictures, those who are guys masquerading as women. Hell you could even download a section of webcam footage and show that if you were clever enough. People will always find a loop hole.
I honestly believe that trial and error is the only way forward with swinging and afterall its a trust based activity. If you can't trust the people you're going to meet and it all flow naturally without feeling like you're under a hotlamp, then its not going to work out when you actually meet up in real life
Showing people who has "friends" or not who just turn into another massive popularity contest and show no more than the proposed "verification" system who or who isnt real.
This all depends on what you class as a timewaster. If I feel there is something wrong and a person calls it off last miute because they don't want to go through with things any longer, thats human nature and its tough. No amount of screening, verifications, lists, webcams, pictures or references can pre-empt this happening anyway.
Gem. x
