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do you think the site should have a verification system

Quote by kentswingers777
Sorry I know I have been flamed for this comment before but....Why go onto a swingers site, if people have no intention of meeting others for play?
I have had various answers to that one in the past, but it still has not answered my thoughts on it.
There is a clear definition as to what the word swinger means. As this is a swingers site, I would have thought people were on it to swing.....obviously I am wrong.
We are swingers and we swing...thats it for me. cool

I must admit that my profile is rarely filled out ... although scarily it is at the moment.
I joined the site years ago to find out information and it has changed to a pay site now so people might not join for the same reason.
We rarely swing at the moment, a multitude of reasons have prevented us, but we remain on the site because we enjoy the banter, our friends are here and so we stay.
I can understand why people want verification but it doesn't stop the tossers and timewasters any more than not having a system in place! It just means that someone has met that person and been prepared to tick a box.
I could have had 99 success meets and on the one night I arrange to meet you have some form of disaster and been unable to turn up! In the same vein you could have had 99 unsuccessful meets and view me as a timewaster ...... me having a decent profile doesn't stop me having a disaster and not turning up!
The best form of verification is your own, msn/cam/phone/socials etc.
What is a "genuine" swinger? dunno Is it a swinger who swings once a year, once a week, once a month, once in a blue moon? :dunno:
I meet once in a blue moon, when sitters, money, other people all cross paths at the right time! I don't know when that will be, it's rarely "planned" so does this make me less genuine because I don't actually care if I get to swing or not? I'm still a swinger, my home situation just doesn't allow me to be rampant and as we may need to change plans at the last minute it's hard to find people who understand! Although that is less of a problem nowadays.
On the whole, I do understand why people see it as a good thing, I just don't think that it is necessary going to be a one-size fits all solution. Opting out presents it's own problems, maybe an opt-in would present less. :dunno:
Quote by Kff30
i would love to have a few more members post their opinions when i look back at the 70 odd post that have been posted they are mostly from the same 5 or 6 members who are heavey forum users any way and have strong opinions on this matter which they have clearly made known
when talking about my thread in the chat room tonight all most the entire kent room agreed with having a verification system yet when i told them to post their comments they all said the same thing "no point we will get shot down by the regulars in the forums"
the forum is suppose to be a place for disscusion and opinions to be aired but a lot of members feel they cant use it becuase a small group of regular forum members are too forcefull when posting their opinions
i find that very sad i use the forums when i see a topic i wish to disscus and i have found that not ever ones opinion is valued by some

I am sorry.... but did you not ask for opinions.... you didn't get the response that you wanted... and you decided to dismiss them, a lot of people have taken the time to contribute to this thread, me included.. I think the way that you have taken it shows a like of respect for views not your own...
made me quite mad actually.... what was the point of replying!
you might like varifications in the kent room... but if we had that same discussion in some of the rooms that i frequent (north east, bbw and even the yorks swongers) I am sure the reaction would be quite different.....
it is more likely to split the site.... again
why not just embrace the differences, instead of trying to make every site generic of every other....
I belong to two other sites.
Both have verification. One of them I have accepted one out of the many meets I have had to verify me. (he is a good friend as well as an excellent fuck) I accepted the verification because I wanted others to know that he was an amazing fuck and wanted to ensure he got as many meets as possible. I know as a 'single fem' I can pretty much pick and choose. But I also care little for the verification of others by others. I go on gut instinct only. The Verification system plays no part in my swinging.
ummm the other site that I belong to that I have no verification on, again I get plenty of meets and offers.
My point is that my membership here is about fucking people. I don't use or need verification here or anywhere else. I care nothing whether it is allowed here. I probably wouldn't use it if it arrived and I sincerely doubt whether it would impact on those people who I wanted to have sex with.
If it helps the site run better for others then bring it on.
I am bored of it being raised again and again and shouted down by people who can basically opt out or in if they wish to.
As has been pointed out verification can be as used or misused as any other part of the site and if the Admin are willing to put in the hours to supervise the support tickets that may arise to reap whatever rewards that verification will bring them, then who are we to stop them?
What people seem to forget is that the site is owned as a business and is run as a business. If we don't like it we can take our business elsewhere.
As for who swings and who doesn't...... who cares why people are here. I meet people who want to fuck, I also meet lots of people who are messing around. A verification system isn't going to say 'I want to meet splendid_ anytime she wants' so it is hardly an indicator of if my sex life is going to change.
pah, am waffling now. This subject bores me and I wanted to just add my two pennorth before I dropped off to sleep.
Let the site owners do what they want with theirsite. If it makes them money and gets people more sex then bring it on.
I think one of the reasons regular forum members see the downside of verification stems from the phase when the forum was the main part of the site.
What tended to happen was that people got themselves known over a long period of time and that was, in effect, intrinsic verification of a sort.
There were far more munches around then and people used to meet up in socials or munches much more regularly. This gave plenty of opportunities for playing with a wide variety of members.
These days there are many more people on the site, who never even look in the forums and are interested in playing without the bother of getting themselves known. Sort of fast-food swinging compared to previously.
When it was mainly just the forums a lot of people could see the downside of verification - because if set up wrong it is open to abuse. Feelings ran very high on the subject.
Obviously, there are a lot more people who see the case for having some sort of verification now and I would have thought that a non-explicit, unattributable, positive endorsement may do it without causing too much trouble. It still wouldn't be foolproof and I think it should not constitute any sort of guarantee that you're going to avoid the wasters. It'll always be a risk.
I think circumstances and members needs are different now and I don't see why it shouldn't be given a trial. Personally, I think it'll be worthless - but that's just my opinion.
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Quote by Purple-bug
This will always be a contentious issue and has certainly been done to death.

Is there a reason why it shouldnt be discussed again, maybe with others chipping in?
Maybe i'm just daft and dont understand the rules of the Forum
No reason at all as far as I can see lol
:welcome: to the forum btw :smile:
As for verification - it wouldn't effect me as far as I'm concerned - hence no comment! confused :?
For those who do want a verification system, what do you hope to get out of it?
ie. is it just to prove that the person exists? That they are indeed a couple? That the person has a good history of meeting people? That the person actually swings? Do you want it to be a tick box or comments system or a rating? Do you want to be able to give negatives as well as positives?
Understanding what people want from such a system might go a way to quelling fears and encourage discussion.
hummmm why bother... it didnt say reguler forum readers could not contribute,
to be honest i saw the thread, thought here we go again, but didnt come in with yawn yawn comments, i gave my views and never orced then on anyone or shot anyone down in flames.
been here long time but by no means in any gang,im very much independent,and hope im not a flamer.
i actually have been pleased by the way the thread has been debated. till it gets personal picking on those who have given enough care to share their thoughts.
xx fem xx
ps i would not public name shame in here, i report stuff to admin,ops mods. hope no one thinks i have.
Quote by varca
Has been known for some to change their minds

I have - see above.
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no takers for eye-ball tattooing yet then?
lp
Quote by varca
This will always be a contentious issue and has certainly been done to death.

Is there a reason why it shouldnt be discussed again, maybe with others chipping in?
Maybe i'm just daft and dont understand the rules of the Forum
No there isn't any reason why not, did I say that? No, I did not smile, I was stating a matter of fact, that it has been discussed again and again over the years.
Now what is your opinion on verification? :)
Sorry but saying that something has been done to death tends to imply that the thread need not have been raised again. Surely if you are bored of the subject matter of a thread because its all been talked out as far as you are concerned then dont bother posting to it if it raises its "ugly" head again surely
Oh and my comments were on page 2 Varca
Quote by __random_orbit__
no takers for eye-ball tattooing yet then?
lp

Perhaps you should start a discussion about it LP ...
ok guys i think this is the best ting going, you need to know if peeps are genuine or not and to be honest we have a lot of timewasters on here. i now use another sitem ypu can manage your verifications, its cool
xxxTartanterrorxxx
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Quote by Calista
For those who do want a verification system, what do you hope to get out of it?
ie. is it just to prove that the person exists? That they are indeed a couple? That the person has a good history of meeting people? That the person actually swings? Do you want it to be a tick box or comments system or a rating? Do you want to be able to give negatives as well as positives?
Understanding what people want from such a system might go a way to quelling fears and encourage discussion.

I would've thought that either of the two in bold would probably cover most things.
I think it should be a tick box.
And it has to be restricted to positives.
If it allows negatives it is open to abuse and it is risky to have a comments system (damning with faint praise etc).
If it was done as above it could avoid abuse but would in my view be of limited value. And as such, I don't see why it shouldn't be tried.
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Quote by flower411
I`ve just been into the kent room ....50 people in there ....not a single one interested in discussing it ...
With me anyway !! lol
Actually , that`s a bit of a fib ...there was one person :lol:

Oooooooh were you there too? I tried that as well. Only one person acknowledged me. dunno
Quote by Dirtygirlie
I`ve just been into the kent room ....50 people in there ....not a single one interested in discussing it ...
With me anyway !! lol
Actually , that`s a bit of a fib ...there was one person :lol:

Oooooooh were you there too? I tried that as well. Only one person acknowledged me. dunno
I have visions now of loads of forumites invading the Kent chatroom LOL :eek:
I don't get this "us vs them" attitude at all .... why do the chatroom peeps only see the forum as a place to debate stuff, it's not the first time that's been said, and there seems to be a really negative attitude towards forumites?
Quote by Kff30
when talking about my thread in the chat room tonight all most the entire kent room agreed with having a verification system yet when i told them to post their comments they all said the same thing "no point we will get shot down by the regulars in the forums"
I can't disagree with you on this point. It is intimidating for people when first posting in forum as there are those who are proficient at finding every possible unintentional flaw or angle in a post to pick it apart to the nth degree. Hey I might even do it myself now, though i sincerely hope not :-(
All i can say is that in the end it is only a lot of words on a screen. Whatever is said and however it is said will affect you, No point in saying otherwise, but if you can brave your way past it and think "What the heck, I want my say" then after a time the crapolla is water off a ducks back.
This is only a small part of S/H numbers wise its true but hey I'm quality, so I say to myself :lol2: and thats worth 500 members of this million (rolleyes) member site. So its important And, is a great nedium for getting the word out about socials munches meets and the like plus a bit of more leisurely paced banter than the chatroom can offer.
Quote by Calista
I`ve just been into the kent room ....50 people in there ....not a single one interested in discussing it ...
With me anyway !! lol
Actually , that`s a bit of a fib ...there was one person :lol:

Oooooooh were you there too? I tried that as well. Only one person acknowledged me. dunno
I have visions now of loads of forumites invading the Kent chatroom LOL :eek:
I don't get this "us vs them" attitude at all .... why do the chatroom peeps only see the forum as a place to debate stuff, it's not the first time that's been said, and there seems to be a really negative attitude towards forumites?
Yup... that's kinda why I went in. I use the chatrooms a lot although I do tend to hang out in the Scottish room mostly but I thought maybe a discussion about it all in chat would make people feel better about sharing their views on the forums.
Lead balloon springs to mind. :sad:
Quote by Kff30
hummmm why bother... it didnt say reguler forum readers could not contribute,
to be honest i saw the thread, thought here we go again, but didnt come in with yawn yawn comments, i gave my views and never orced then on anyone or shot anyone down in flames.
been here long time but by no means in any gang,im very much independent,and hope im not a flamer.
i actually have been pleased by the way the thread has been debated. till it gets personal picking on those who have given enough care to share their thoughts.
xx fem xx
ps i would not public name shame in here, i report stuff to admin,ops mods. hope no one thinks i have.

Same here Fem when I saw the thread title. The OP has been given very good reasons as to why a lot of people think that it, a tick or whatever would not work but because we can argue an 'against' case, our views do not count so it seems.
Calista has just asked some good questions, I look forward to reading the responses in the morning smile
has any one said that the regulars should not post ??? NO
has any one said the the views of the regulars do not count ???? NO
all i have pointed out is that the majority of the posts have come from the same few members who regularly post in here members its hardly a disscuison if the other members feel they cant post a opinion because as soon as they do a they feel they get shot down by a regular at the moment the poll is showing about 2/3 against and 1/3 for yet if you look at the comments on the post about 90% are against but then if you break that down to members and not posts it looks a bit different the majority of the against are from the same members who are very quick to reply to any post read back and see for your selfs
as for me i will not bother posting any more this thread has been taken over by the regulars which i see time and time again in the forums what is the point in posting if the same few members are not willing to listen to others views and only want to repeat thier own views time and time again
Well I'm a regular and I posted that we should give it a go - but in everybody's eagerness to have a bicker it got missed by some and ignored by others.
Why people have to get so emotional beats me! dunno
Have fun folks.
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Just for the record... I didn't vote.
I don't really care either way and most of the reasons behind that, Splendid has posted in her contribution.
I went into the Kent room to try and have a discussion on it and only one person acknowledged me. The whole "them and us" thing seems to work both ways. I was kinda hoping that I could post in here that I'd had an interesting discussion about it but sadly I can't do that because no-one replied.
I use chat and forums so I don't consider myself to be a them or an us. I'm just me. :mrgreen:
whats to stop someone having two profiles and verifying themselves... If you can manage verifications what is the point of having them - you get a bed one and just delete it... Yes we all want to get rid of time wasters but its probably never going to happen. You're better off going socials and chatting in rooms and forum... Put the effort in so to speak!
Quote by Kff30
hummmm why bother... it didnt say reguler forum readers could not contribute,
to be honest i saw the thread, thought here we go again, but didnt come in with yawn yawn comments, i gave my views and never orced then on anyone or shot anyone down in flames.
been here long time but by no means in any gang,im very much independent,and hope im not a flamer.
i actually have been pleased by the way the thread has been debated. till it gets personal picking on those who have given enough care to share their thoughts.
xx fem xx
ps i would not public name shame in here, i report stuff to admin,ops mods. hope no one thinks i have.

Same here Fem when I saw the thread title. The OP has been given very good reasons as to why a lot of people think that it, a tick or whatever would not work but because we can argue an 'against' case, our views do not count so it seems.
Calista has just asked some good questions, I look forward to reading the responses in the morning smile
has any one said that the regulars should not post ??? NO
has any one said the the views of the regulars do not count ???? NO
all i have pointed out is that the majority of the posts have come from the same few members who regularly post in here members its hardly a disscuison if the other members feel they cant post a opinion because as soon as they do a they feel they get shot down by a regular at the moment the poll is showing about 2/3 against and 1/3 for yet if you look at the comments on the post about 90% are against but then if you break that down to members and not posts it looks a bit different the majority of the against are from the same members who are very quick to reply to any post read back and see for your selfs
as for me i will not bother posting any more this thread has been taken over by the regulars which i see time and time again in the forums what is the point in posting if the same few members are not willing to listen to others views and only want to repeat thier own views time and time again
Some people have asked questions to try to stimulate discussion and so that those opposed can get a better understanding ... you only fear what you don't know after all!
Immediately the time you didn't get the answer you wanted to hear you started by "calling" forumites and have since only answered those whose posts you consider to be contentious.
How about answering the posts that enable the discussion to be widened?
i feel you contradicted your self in that.
""the same few members who regularly post in here members its hardly a disscuison""
that made me feel that my opinion isnt worth while and only those of a new poster count here in this one.
"""other members feel they cant post a opinion because as soon as they do a they feel they get shot down by a regular"""
where has a reguler member shot anyone down? how do you know they think this if they dont post?
""been taken over by the regulars""
im sorry you feel that way, but isnt it expected that those whoare regulers are teh ones here and probally will post.
im not flaming or picking just trying to point out why i felt you thought my opinion and that of reguler posters was not wanted so much in this thread???
xx fem xxx
Have we solved it yet.......... rolleyes
my cat had ticks once,
no im lying
it did have worms though.
markz we were wting for your input rolleyes
can those members whohave used a verification system, let us know how its worked, plus and negatives.
have you found it worth while?
xx fem xxx
Quote by fem_4_taboo
markz we were wting for your input rolleyes

You want me don't you....... :roll:
Quote by markz
You want me don't you....... rolleyes

Doesn't everyone? :smoke:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Ok so the ones for verification are saying that people can post what they like about you, and anything negative, or critical will be deleted and not shown, thus making it "false advertising" ?
Going on that principle, if one of our children came home from school with their end of year report, and showed us two glowing references in history and maths, and they threw the other thirteen subjects in the bin as they hadn't done homeworks, was always in detention and scored badly in his exams.
Does that mean their report was a good one? Or if I'd have known the truth would I have crushed his psp under the wheels of the family car dunno
As somebody famous once said, a little knowledge is dangerous.
Ian
Quote by Calista
no takers for eye-ball tattooing yet then?
lp

Perhaps you should start a discussion about it LP ...
Branding then?
all descrete like?
beside the anus... or behind the earlobe or something?
lp
Quote by Ian
Ok so the ones for verification are saying that people can post what they like about you, and anything negative, or critical will be deleted and not shown, thus making it "false advertising" ?
Going on that principle, if one of our children came home from school with their end of year report, and showed us two glowing references in history and maths, and they threw the other thirteen subjects in the bin as they hadn't done homeworks, was always in detention and scored badly in his exams.
Does that mean their report was a good one? Or if I'd have known the truth would I have crushed his psp under the wheels of the family car dunno
As somebody famous once said, a little knowledge is dangerous.
Ian

If that was my kids with excellimg Maths n History i'd buy the teachers a drink and fdorgive the kidfs the rest lol
I get what ya mean though :thumbup:
This whole subject conjours up images of The Vicar Of Dibley......Bear with me...
No no no no no no no no......errrrrr .....Yes
In the begining there was never to be a verification system.....Now there is a good chance,reading between the lines,that there will be.....
I'll hold the last nail.....Someone can knock it in sad
I too,as with Angel Chat,was verified without my consent in the chatroom verification fiasco,and it made my blood boil to be honest...
The best system out is intuition....
And going to a few socials/munches.....
You get to meet dozens and dozens of potential playmates...
Try it......You might like it wink