Doh meant to add am really not into the violence thing at all although I think there is a very definite difference between consensual violence (although its not really violence!) but could be psychologically damaging I think!
Then theres just violence with no regards for a persons feelings which is destructive!
I think depending on the situation and persons invloved consensual violence could be just as damaging as non concensual (real violence)
sorry edited that last bit there as I put it down wrong!! brain and fingers dont always work well together except in some situations ;)
Yet a person posting about violent fantasies might receive a less than warm reception, even if they had no intention of carrying out said fantasy. The person I encountered had posted about an issue which concerned his own deviant fantasies. He had encountered horror when ever he had tried to address the problem, and would not specify what his fantasy was, in fact I asked him not to! He felt he was too sick for society, but also added that in no way shape or form would he consider acting out said fantasy, but he could not enjoy a normal sexual relationship. He wanted support on how to address this problem as doctors he had seen did not have the resources to point him in the right direction. Others wanted him banned.
And Fruity, no worries. I`m too tired to formulate an opinion myself!
Venusxxx
Sounds like a more trustworthy bloke sexually than some out there!
I think there should be more resources for people to talk about this sort of thing especially if they even worry that thier fantasy is way off the norm and that they consider themselves too sick for society really is a shame!
Sounds like a bad situation to be in! Makes you think though I do believe you cant always control your thoughts no matter what they are I suppose its dealing with them thats the real problem and even worse!!
Thing is though im sure whatever his fantasy is there must be someone out there or some sort of group that could even offer some advice!?? Or maybe not!
Just looking at the list, I'm intrigued: How can circumcision be a fetish? Not exactly something you can make a habit of is it?
Or maybe there are some guys out there with regenerative foreskins. :shock:
You've asked a lot of questions there!
How can you tell if someone is real? I think by the depth and detailed nature of the fantasy really. I read a story once by a guy who ironed his cock; not really my thing, but he was explaining what settings he'd have the iron on for, how long he'd leave it before er.. ironing and so on. It led me to believe that yeah, this guy has actually done this thing - he knows what he's talking about! There's also the point that some guys are just going to want to talk dirty, regardless of the fantasy, and I think at that point the person listening needs to decide if they want to get off on this as well. Of course, you're not necessarily going to find this out until you've spent some time talking to him, but if he's clear on the fantasy and can give a lot of detail, then I'd say that yes, he's for real and it's a real fantasy, to the extent that a fantasy, being fictional, ever can be 'real' in that sense.
A more difficult question is 'what is acceptable and what isn't'. In the final analysis I guess that's up to the Mods to decide, based on whatever criteria they have. So, speaking personally, whatever *fantasy* someone has is acceptable - I really don't care how strange it happens to be. I might not like it or understand it, but having it, well that's ok. There is however a line between having a fantasy and wanting to act it out, and there of course I would have problems. If someone wants to have a non-consensual fantasy that's fine, but if that leads them to go out and, for example, someone that most certainly is not fine! So, if it's only a fantasy, yes, I'd say it's fine to have it.
Do I want to read about them all? Probably not, no. There's a lot of stuff that doesn't interest me at all, so I'd probably skip it. However, it depends also on why they are posting. If it's just to get off on writing it down and having people read it, I can manage without it. If they're posting about it because they're worried or concerned or just want to ask 'is this normal' then I may well spend some time with the posting.
Is it acceptable to write about it here? This is a difficult one, but I'd say that, for the sake of the site as a whole, it probably isn't always acceptable. If someone is writing about having sex with an animal for example, not only is it illegal in the UK, it's going to upset a lot of people who would not necessarily expect a site that covers the swinging/dogging scene to have that sort of material on it. It's going to be off topic as much as anything else, and I've seen threads stopped because of just that reason, and I think that's entirely acceptable. I do however think that it's worthwhile if, when such a thread is stopped it's made clear that it's stopped because the subject matter is not appropriate for the forum, rather than it's been stopped because the subject matter is sick or depraved or not normal for example.
I don't think we can get into the game of 'this is normal and this is not' because quite frankly it's down to the individual to decide for themselves. What *I* do is normal, because I do it, and so do others here. On the other hand, people could equally use the same arguement to say that I'm not normal, because they don't do it, and neither do any of their friends. I would draw an absolute line however against talking about illegal activities, such as sex with the underaged, or bestality simply because it IS illegal in the UK, and to have such discussions may well attract people with no interest in swinging or dogging or journalists. I do think there IS such a thing as bad publicity.
So, in summary, I don't think there's anything wrong with having ANY fantasy, as long as the person having it does not take it further if it's illegal or non-consensual. I also don't have any problem with people talking about them either, as long as it's appropriate for the general subject matter of the forum. Many of the fetishes that you've mentioned are not, in my opinion, appropriate for the forum here for just that reason, and not because they're wrong or sick or abnormal.
But... that's just my opinion!
Phil.