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Quote by redpantherman
Can someone verify me as real? dunno
I've not even seen myself! :crazy:

No you are not real :giggle:
saw through the flaws instantly .......... very few on here actually match what their profile says anyhow.
Quote by redpantherman
Can someone verify me as real? dunno
I've not even seen myself! :crazy:

You're a real pillock
there you are, don't say i've never done anything for you :grin:
Quote by wakeycouple2
saw through the flaws instantly .......... very few on here actually match what their profile says anyhow.

How do you know?
Quote by wakeycouple2
saw through the flaws instantly .......... very few on here actually match what their profile says anyhow.

I would say how sure are you that I don't match what my profile says, but I don't have extras, so no idea if you have looked at my profile, I shall let you off.
Quote by Freckledbird
saw through the flaws instantly .......... very few on here actually match what their profile says anyhow.

How do you know?
They spied me out recently and found I was a 6 foot, size zero model with long flowing "real" blonde hair and boobs keeping my nose warm :twisted:
My profile didn't say I looked like that :giggle: but the pampas grass, cream leather couch and ankle bracelet gave the swinging game away
bolt
Quote by Tan--Kinky
saw through the flaws instantly .......... very few on here actually match what their profile says anyhow.

How do you know?
They spied me out recently and found I was a 6 foot, size zero model with long flowing "real" blonde hair and boobs keeping my nose warm :twisted:
My profile didn't say I looked like that :giggle: but the pampas grass, cream leather couch and ankle bracelet gave the swinging game away
bolt
Did you have tiger bread in the house as well, by any chance?
Quote by Freckledbird
saw through the flaws instantly .......... very few on here actually match what their profile says anyhow.

How do you know?
They spied me out recently and found I was a 6 foot, size zero model with long flowing "real" blonde hair and boobs keeping my nose warm :twisted:
My profile didn't say I looked like that :giggle: but the pampas grass, cream leather couch and ankle bracelet gave the swinging game away
bolt
Did you have tiger bread in the house as well, by any chance?
Yup :lol2:
I am a single guy and I have a single guy`s profile. I have tried my best to participate fully in the Swinging Heaven community. I have made an effort with my profile, I post on the forum, I answer adverts, I go into the chatrooms, but nonetheless I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time.
No doubt that the members of this site are real enough in the sense that they have given their credit card number to Administration, but most are not real swingers in the way that I understand the term. For me, the swinging lifestyle implies a tolerance and respect for others that is sometimes (often?) lacking in the "normal" world. It seems to me that the original poster was complaining in part about a lack of respect and courtesy among fellow members of this site, and in this respect I can sympathise with him. Swinging Heaven may boast a membership of nearly one million, but in my opinion there are only a few hundred who are legitimate swingers. There are only a few hundred who are real.
Quote by Browneyes71
I am a single guy and I have a single guy`s profile. I have tried my best to participate fully in the Swinging Heaven community. I have made an effort with my profile, I post on the forum, I answer adverts, I go into the chatrooms, but nonetheless I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time.
No doubt that the members of this site are real enough in the sense that they have given their credit card number to Administration, but most are not real swingers in the way that I understand the term. For me, the swinging lifestyle implies a tolerance and respect for others that is sometimes (often?) lacking in the "normal" world. It seems to me that the original poster was complaining in part about a lack of respect and courtesy among fellow members of this site, and in this respect I can sympathise with him. Swinging Heaven may boast a membership of nearly one million, but in my opinion there are only a few hundred who are legitimate swingers. There are only a few hundred who are real.

Browneyes ....I couldnt dissagree with you more ?????
I am a single guy too and like you here to meet people have fun laughs etc etc and if I meet someone i like enough to want to have fun with them I will biggrin :D
In the meantime I post in forums .. go in to chat.. make myself look a fool with some of the threads I post , and keep my profile fresh and alive by putting the truth about what I am looking for.
Its not all about sex in here its relating to others who have the same ideals and wants etc etc ....
As for real take it from me :shock: there are real people in here I have met a few and they seem real enough to me , its no good joining a site like sh and thinking I am gonna get laid the same day it just doesnt work that way ,
It takes patience time and a wanting to get to know folks for what they are not just sex objects .
Hang in there go in to chats attend meets munches post ads talk to people .....a nice how ya doin in a mail may result in a no reply ....so what just mail another :D :D :D :D
I have forgotten how many mails I sent out and got no reply rolleyes :roll: :roll:
just be yourself and be patient pleasant wink :wink:
good luck ..
steve
Quote by Tan--Kinky
saw through the flaws instantly .......... very few on here actually match what their profile says anyhow.

How do you know?
They spied me out recently and found I was a 6 foot, size zero model with long flowing "real" blonde hair and boobs keeping my nose warm :twisted:
My profile didn't say I looked like that :giggle: but the pampas grass, cream leather couch and ankle bracelet gave the swinging game away
bolt
6 feet eh? Good job I'm not into toe sucking :twisted: .
Wakeycouple2, you must've met a lot of people to have made that judgement.(In edit: just looked at your ad - you seem to have found quite a few local guys judging by the very sexy photos!)
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Quote by travlinmanukok

Its not all about sex in here its relating to others who have the same ideals and wants etc etc ....
As for real take it from me :shock: there are real people in here I have met a few and they seem real enough to me , its no good joining a site like sh and thinking I am gonna get laid the same day it just doesnt work that way ,
It takes patience time and a wanting to get to know folks for what they are not just sex objects .
steve

Where in my post do I talk about sex? I talk about respect and courtesy, which, in my opinion, is exactly about relating to others.
Where in my post do I talk about wanting to get laid in the same day?
What part of my post gives you the impression that I treat folks like sex objects?
I respect the fact that you have a right to air your opinions on the this board, but you have completely misunderstood my point and I take offence at your judgemental attitude towards me.
Browneyes, I don't understand - you say you feel this is a complete waste of time, but you say on another thread you have had 4 meets off here - you joined 17 days ago - I'd say that was bloody good going!
Quote by Browneyes71
I am a single guy and I have a single guy`s profile. I have tried my best to participate fully in the Swinging Heaven community. I have made an effort with my profile, I post on the forum, I answer adverts, I go into the chatrooms, but nonetheless I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time.
No doubt that the members of this site are real enough in the sense that they have given their credit card number to Administration, but most are not real swingers in the way that I understand the term. For me, the swinging lifestyle implies a tolerance and respect for others that is sometimes (often?) lacking in the "normal" world. It seems to me that the original poster was complaining in part about a lack of respect and courtesy among fellow members of this site, and in this respect I can sympathise with him. Swinging Heaven may boast a membership of nearly one million, but in my opinion there are only a few hundred who are legitimate swingers. There are only a few hundred who are real.

I have read your post several times and I still take it 2 ways.
1. In this bit, on first read, I got the impression that you are saying that everyone here who does not actively swing is not real:
"No doubt that the members of this site are real enough in the sense that they have given their credit card number to Administration, but most are not real swingers in the way that I understand the term"
But I read it again, and read on, which leads me to two:
2. If we take this as you be what you really mean, then I agree with you:
" For me, the swinging lifestyle implies a tolerance and respect for others that is sometimes (often?) lacking in the "normal" world."
Yes, swinging is about respect and tolerance, oft sadly lacking in other aspects of life. I totally a gree with you that a lot of people on this site (and all other swingers sites on t'internet that I have ever logged into) are not "real" swingers in so much as they do not understand the respect aspect of swinging at all. They really don't. They just want as many quick free shags as they can get.
Then again, Who's to say that wanting quick free sex is not swinging --- is that not one tenet of swinging (for tose who like quick free sex of course!)?
But then on second and third read, you confuse me again by saying this:
"I have tried my best to participate fully in the Swinging Heaven community. I have made an effort with my profile, I post on the forum, I answer adverts, I go into the chatrooms, but nonetheless I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time. "
Here, I think you are saying that participating in the social aspects of the site is a waste of time cos it does not get you sex? Erm, so you're here for quick and free sex, just like all the others here for quick and free sex? The social aspects of the site (forums, rooms, etc) are therefore just a means to an end, just a way to get sex? So where thus is your respect for those who love to use the site for social reasons, NOT as (just) a means to an end?
Sorry I have ripped your post to bits, but to a logic fiend like myself your apparent contradictions do not make sense.
biggrin
I'm real, well at least I think I'm real but I could just be a figment of some ones imagination.
Quote by bluexxx

Here, I think you are saying that participating in the social aspects of the site is a waste of time cos it does not get you sex? Erm, so you're here for quick and free sex, just like all the others here for quick and free sex? The social aspects of the site (forums, rooms, etc) are therefore just a means to an end, just a way to get sex? So where thus is your respect for those who love to use the site for social reasons, NOT as (just) a means to an end?
biggrin

Here you have made the ASSUMPTION that I have participated in the social aspects of the site in order to get free sex. This, in my opinion, is an unfair assumption to make. Look back at some of my forum posts. The vast majority of them have little to do with getting free sex. I am, as I say, merely trying to participate. For example, I started a thread about London meetings in order to try and get people together for a social. The thread had nearly 1000 views, but nothing came of it. How was I looking for free sex there, when I suggest a meeting for all members of this site in a pub? And surely that fact that nothing came of my London meetings post is an indication that this site can be -- and often is -- a waste of time. And, again, I am not talking about the sexual side of things. Please re-read my post, in which my definition of swinging emphasises its non-sexual aspects (respect, tolerance etc). I'll ask you again: where do I talk about getting free sex? You have erroneously assumed this to be the case.
Quote by Cherrytree
Browneyes, I don't understand - you say you feel this is a complete waste of time, but you say on another thread you have had 4 meets off here - you joined 17 days ago - I'd say that was bloody good going!

Again, this is another assumption. You are assuming that just because I have had four meetings that I should not find this the site to be a waste of time. Out of respect for the people I have met, I will obviously not elaborate on these meetings here. Indeed, I enjoyed them all and thank everyone who took the time and effort to meet me. I appreciate it greatly. But cherrytree, I could have had one hundred meetings and still find this site to be a waste of time. This is a subjective opinion based on my own expectations, as it is for everyone.
Quote by Browneyes71

Here, I think you are saying that participating in the social aspects of the site is a waste of time cos it does not get you sex? Erm, so you're here for quick and free sex, just like all the others here for quick and free sex? The social aspects of the site (forums, rooms, etc) are therefore just a means to an end, just a way to get sex? So where thus is your respect for those who love to use the site for social reasons, NOT as (just) a means to an end?
biggrin

Here you have made the ASSUMPTION that I have participated in the social aspects of the site in order to get free sex. This, in my opinion, is an unfair assumption to make. Look back at some of my forum posts. The vast majority of them have little to do with getting free sex. I am, as I say, merely trying to participate. For example, I started a thread about London meetings in order to try and get people together for a social. The thread had nearly 1000 views, but nothing came of it. How was I looking for free sex there, when I suggest a meeting for all members of this site in a pub? And surely that fact that nothing came of my London meetings post is an indication that this site can be -- and often is -- a waste of time. And, again, I am not talking about the sexual side of things. Please re-read my post, in which my definition of swinging emphasises its non-sexual aspects (respect, tolerance etc). I'll ask you again: where do I talk about getting free sex? You have erroneously assumed this to be the case.
Quote by Browneyes71
I am a single guy and I have a single guy`s profile. I have tried my best to participate fully in the Swinging Heaven community. I have made an effort with my profile, I post on the forum, I answer adverts, I go into the chatrooms, but nonetheless I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time.

It's a fairly easy assumption to make given your comment above. So I won't make the assumption, I'd ask you to explain what you meant by saying "I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time"
Just because your previous posts don't actually say "I'm here looking for free sex" they might as well have done because we assume you're here for just that when you say it is a complete waste of time participating in the forums. Why is it a waste of time? Didn't you have a decent conversation? Didn't you find out something you hadn't already known by reading the forums? Or is it purely because you didn't get a shag out of it? I don't want to assume, but I'd like to hear why you think it's a waste of time. wink
Quote by Browneyes71
Browneyes, I don't understand - you say you feel this is a complete waste of time, but you say on another thread you have had 4 meets off here - you joined 17 days ago - I'd say that was bloody good going!

Again, this is another assumption. You are assuming that just because I have had four meetings that I should not find this the site to be a waste of time. Out of respect for the people I have met, I will obviously not elaborate on these meetings here. Indeed, I enjoyed them all and thank everyone who took the time and effort to meet me. I appreciate it greatly. But cherrytree, I could have had one hundred meetings and still find this site to be a waste of time. This is a subjective opinion based on my own expectations, as it is for everyone.
Ok well you've totally lost me now - you are saying that no matter how many meets, no matter how many chats you've had and no matter how many forum posts you've made, you think this site is a waste of time?
Well good luck with whatever you are looking for.
Quote by Browneyes71

Here, I think you are saying that participating in the social aspects of the site is a waste of time cos it does not get you sex? Erm, so you're here for quick and free sex, just like all the others here for quick and free sex? The social aspects of the site (forums, rooms, etc) are therefore just a means to an end, just a way to get sex? So where thus is your respect for those who love to use the site for social reasons, NOT as (just) a means to an end?
biggrin

Here you have made the ASSUMPTION that I have participated in the social aspects of the site in order to get free sex. This, in my opinion, is an unfair assumption to make. Look back at some of my forum posts. The vast majority of them have little to do with getting free sex. I am, as I say, merely trying to participate. For example, I started a thread about London meetings in order to try and get people together for a social. The thread had nearly 1000 views, but nothing came of it. How was I looking for free sex there, when I suggest a meeting for all members of this site in a pub? And surely that fact that nothing came of my London meetings post is an indication that this site can be -- and often is -- a waste of time. And, again, I am not talking about the sexual side of things. Please re-read my post, in which my definition of swinging emphasises its non-sexual aspects (respect, tolerance etc). I'll ask you again: where do I talk about getting free sex? You have erroneously assumed this to be the case.
Sure it's an assumption. One I made based on the contradictions within your post. If you care to read my post again, that is what I said!
Quote by Dirtygirly

Here, I think you are saying that participating in the social aspects of the site is a waste of time cos it does not get you sex? Erm, so you're here for quick and free sex, just like all the others here for quick and free sex? The social aspects of the site (forums, rooms, etc) are therefore just a means to an end, just a way to get sex? So where thus is your respect for those who love to use the site for social reasons, NOT as (just) a means to an end?
biggrin

Here you have made the ASSUMPTION that I have participated in the social aspects of the site in order to get free sex. This, in my opinion, is an unfair assumption to make. Look back at some of my forum posts. The vast majority of them have little to do with getting free sex. I am, as I say, merely trying to participate. For example, I started a thread about London meetings in order to try and get people together for a social. The thread had nearly 1000 views, but nothing came of it. How was I looking for free sex there, when I suggest a meeting for all members of this site in a pub? And surely that fact that nothing came of my London meetings post is an indication that this site can be -- and often is -- a waste of time. And, again, I am not talking about the sexual side of things. Please re-read my post, in which my definition of swinging emphasises its non-sexual aspects (respect, tolerance etc). I'll ask you again: where do I talk about getting free sex? You have erroneously assumed this to be the case.
Quote by Browneyes71
I am a single guy and I have a single guy`s profile. I have tried my best to participate fully in the Swinging Heaven community. I have made an effort with my profile, I post on the forum, I answer adverts, I go into the chatrooms, but nonetheless I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time.

It's a fairly easy assumption to make given your comment above. So I won't make the assumption, I'd ask you to explain what you meant by saying "I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time"
Just because your previous posts don't actually say "I'm here looking for free sex" they might as well have done because we assume you're here for just that when you say it is a complete waste of time participating in the forums. Why is it a waste of time? Didn't you have a decent conversation? Didn't you find out something you hadn't already known by reading the forums? Or is it purely because you didn't get a shag out of it? I don't want to assume, but I'd like to hear why you think it's a waste of time. wink
Quote by Cherrytree
Browneyes, I don't understand - you say you feel this is a complete waste of time, but you say on another thread you have had 4 meets off here - you joined 17 days ago - I'd say that was bloody good going!

Again, this is another assumption. You are assuming that just because I have had four meetings that I should not find this the site to be a waste of time. Out of respect for the people I have met, I will obviously not elaborate on these meetings here. Indeed, I enjoyed them all and thank everyone who took the time and effort to meet me. I appreciate it greatly. But cherrytree, I could have had one hundred meetings and still find this site to be a waste of time. This is a subjective opinion based on my own expectations, as it is for everyone.
Ok well you've totally lost me now - you are saying that no matter how many meets, no matter how many chats you've had and no matter how many forum posts you've made, you think this site is a waste of time?
Well good luck with whatever you are looking for.
Indeed - exactly the point I am making!
I am not sure where and how 'free sex' is applicable here.
If swingers are consenting, knowing people who have sex by mutual agreement, where there is no fee or payment involved.
Then how can there be free sex? Or indeed is anyone cheated in some way?
Quote by duncanlondon
I am not sure where and how 'free sex' is applicable here.
If swingers are consenting, knowing people who have sex by mutual agreement, where there is no fee or payment involved.
Then how can there be free sex? Or indeed is anyone cheated in some way?

Indeed... perhaps worded wrong. I'd have said "quick shag" but again if that's what you're here for and that's what someone else is here for and you get together than all is good for everyone involved.
I'm just curious as to why it's a waste of time. dunno
At the risk of being accused of standing up for a new face once again I have to say that I have rarely witnessed such insight or candour on any forum to which I contribute. Thanks Brown. ( I cant bring myself to call you browneyes its associated with a very lovely woman that I never got to know well enough.)
Quote by Browneyes71
I am a single guy and I have a single guy`s profile. I have tried my best to participate fully in the Swinging Heaven community. I have made an effort with my profile, I post on the forum, I answer adverts, I go into the chatrooms, but nonetheless I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time.
No doubt that the members of this site are real enough in the sense that they have given their credit card number to Administration, but most are not real swingers in the way that I understand the term. For me, the swinging lifestyle implies a tolerance and respect for others that is sometimes (often?) lacking in the "normal" world. It seems to me that the original poster was complaining in part about a lack of respect and courtesy among fellow members of this site, and in this respect I can sympathise with him. Swinging Heaven may boast a membership of nearly one million, but in my opinion there are only a few hundred who are legitimate swingers. There are only a few hundred who are real.
Quote by benrums0n
At the risk of being accused of standing up for a new face once again I have to say that I have rarely witnessed such insight or candour on any forum to which I contribute. Thanks Brown. ( I cant bring myself to call you browneyes its associated with a very lovely woman that I never got to know well enough.)
I am a single guy and I have a single guy`s profile. I have tried my best to participate fully in the Swinging Heaven community. I have made an effort with my profile, I post on the forum, I answer adverts, I go into the chatrooms, but nonetheless I have found it all to be an inordinate waste of time.
No doubt that the members of this site are real enough in the sense that they have given their credit card number to Administration, but most are not real swingers in the way that I understand the term. For me, the swinging lifestyle implies a tolerance and respect for others that is sometimes (often?) lacking in the "normal" world. It seems to me that the original poster was complaining in part about a lack of respect and courtesy among fellow members of this site, and in this respect I can sympathise with him. Swinging Heaven may boast a membership of nearly one million, but in my opinion there are only a few hundred who are legitimate swingers. There are only a few hundred who are real.

So perhaps you can explain why you come here if it's such a waste of time then Ben? dunno
Quote by Dirtygirly
I am not sure where and how 'free sex' is applicable here.
If swingers are consenting, knowing people who have sex by mutual agreement, where there is no fee or payment involved.
Then how can there be free sex? Or indeed is anyone cheated in some way?

Indeed... perhaps worded wrong. I'd have said "quick shag" but again if that's what you're here for and that's what someone else is here for and you get together than all is good for everyone involved.
I'm just curious as to why it's a waste of time. dunno
Well I wish people wouldn't use such illogical expressions and construct redundant lines of argument from them.
Also if there are people who are not happy about people looking or appearing to look for a quick bonk, it's probably also considerable; that there are people who equally find it unsavoury that people are looking for .................. heaven forbid...............a swinging experience!
Just imagine that, the ultimate in hypocrisy.
DG to answer your enquiry.
I sometimes have a lot of time on my hands.
I dont run away from communities with aspects that I dislike, I involve myself with them and see if they develop.
Hope this helps.