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Is it possible to grasp concepts almost regardless of an IQ?

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Discounting those with learning difficulties?
My belief is that it is. It might take longer for some, and may take differing approaches.
What do you guys think?
Venusxxx
What's a concept?? :shock: :shock: :shock: confused :? :? :? :? :? :? :? wink
Sorry I didn't understand the question wink
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Sorry I didn't understand the question wink

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if it was a potentially theoretical concept then I'd need to think hard about that one
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Oh thank you! You guys are a great help! :huh: lol
Roger....thankYOU kiss
Yes, I suppose it could be applied to any concept, although when reading about, say, astrophysics a person is immediately dealing with concepts which they cannot relate to (akin to a 2d person being placed on a 3d world *Hawkins) but if there are people out there who can grasp such concepts, then surely these same concepts can be communicated in such a way that others can also grasp them, or others should be able to approach the subject from an angle which they can relate to?
I`m struggling with both Astrophysics and Philosophy confused
Venusxxx
Is it possible to grasp concepts almost regardless of an IQ?
YES!!
Right, that's that sorted !!! Can I lock it now??? confused :? :? :? wink
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Oh thank you! You guys are a great help! :huh: lol
Roger....thankYOU kiss
Yes, I suppose it could be applied to any concept, although when reading about, say, astrophysics a person is immediately dealing with concepts which they cannot relate to (akin to a 2d person being placed on a 3d world *Hawkins) but if there are people out there who can grasp such concepts, then sure these same concepts can be communicated in such a way that others can also grasp them, or others should be able to approach the subject from an angle which they can relate to?
I`m struggling with both Astrophysics and Philosophy confused
Venusxxx

FFS! Venus .. I'll be glad when you start work and have less time to get bored!!!!!!!!
That one made even my brain hurt!
But yes I agree that communicated correctly any concept can be explored to anybody - as long as the level at which it is communicated is suitable for the individual/ group IQ.
Nope - take it from me.
If people can't grasp the concept of 'don't do that' then there is no hope at all... in the world ever!
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Now can we lock it ???? :shock: :shock: confused :? :? :? :? lol :lol: wink
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Oh thank you! You guys are a great help! :huh: lol
Roger....thankYOU kiss
Yes, I suppose it could be applied to any concept, although when reading about, say, astrophysics a person is immediately dealing with concepts which they cannot relate to (akin to a 2d person being placed on a 3d world *Hawkins) but if there are people out there who can grasp such concepts, then sure these same concepts can be communicated in such a way that others can also grasp them, or others should be able to approach the subject from an angle which they can relate to?
I`m struggling with both Astrophysics and Philosophy confused
Venusxxx

FFS! Venus .. I'll be glad when you start work and have less time to get bored!!!!!!!!
That one made even my brain hurt!
But yes I agree that communicated correctly any concept can be explored to anybody - as long as the level at which it is communicated is suitable for the individual/ group IQ.
*sniffle*
I`m sorry! I thought I`d spare you all and find a board more suitable for my bollox....but they are killing me :shock: :shock: :shock:
I still don`t bloody know when I can start work! :crazy:
Venusxxx
i'm not sure that anyone has grasped my concepts but i'm open to offers wink
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Oh thank you! You guys are a great help! :huh: lol
Roger....thankYOU kiss
Yes, I suppose it could be applied to any concept, although when reading about, say, astrophysics a person is immediately dealing with concepts which they cannot relate to (akin to a 2d person being placed on a 3d world *Hawkins) but if there are people out there who can grasp such concepts, then sure these same concepts can be communicated in such a way that others can also grasp them, or others should be able to approach the subject from an angle which they can relate to?
I`m struggling with both Astrophysics and Philosophy confused
Venusxxx

The problem with very abstract concepts is finding someone who actually understands them well enough to explain them, also to explain advanced technical concepts you ahve to explain a lot of intermediate stuff first.
My personal favorite is that a cat viewed in 4 dimensions would look like a very odd carrot. cool
Roger.
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I`m sorry! I thought I`d spare you all and find a board more suitable for my bollox....but they are killing me :shock: :shock: :shock:

Ooooh!! Does that mean we can lock it?? :shock: :shock: confused :? :? lol :lol: wink
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My personal favorite is that a cat viewed in 4 dimensions would look like a very odd carrot. cool
Roger.

Not that bloody cat again! banghead
Bilko. I`m ignoring you. *sniff*
Venusxxx
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I've seen a very odd carrot that looked like a cat, is that the kind of thing you're talking about?

And I've seen a carrot that looked like a penis.
Oh no....silly me....Scrap that.....
I used it like a penis redface

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No not lowering the tone. Talking about sex so Sgt can't lock the thread.
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Another concept I cannot grasp flipa
Take this
Categorical Imperative
A term which originated in Immanuel Kant's ethics. It expresses the moral law as ultimately enacted by reason and demanding obedience from mere respect for reason. Kant in his ethics takes his point of departure from the concept of a good will: "Nothing can possibly be conceived in the world or out of it that can be called good without qualification except a good will." But that will alone is good which acts not only conformably to duty, but also from duty. And again the will acts from duty when it is determined merely by respect for the law, independently of inclination, and without regard to the agreeableness or the consequences of the action prescribed. Therefore the first fundamental principle of morality is: "Let the law be the sole ground or motive of thy will." Kant further finds that the law is capable of inspiring respect by reason of its universality and necessity, and hence lays down the following general formula of the moral law: "Act so that the maxim may be capable of becoming a universal law for all rational beings." Necessity and universality, he declares, cannot be derived from experience, whose subject matter is always particular and contingent, but from the mind alone, from the cognitive forms innate in it. Hence the moral law originates in pure reason and is enunciated by a synthetical judgment a priori--a priori because it has its reason, not in experience, but in the mind itself; synthetical, because it is formed not by the analysis of a conception, but by an extension of it. Reason, dictating the moral law, determines man's actions. Yet it may do so in a twofold manner. It either controls conduct infallibly, its dictates being actually responded to without conflict or friction--and in this case there is no obligation necessary or conceivable, because the will is of itself so constituted as to be in harmony with the rational order--or it is resisted and disobeyed, or obeyed only reluctantly, owing to contrary impulses coming from sensibility. In this case determination by the law of reason has the nature of a command or imperative, not of a hypothetical imperative, which enjoins actions only as a means to an end and implies a merely conditional necessity but of a categorical imperative, which enjoins actions for their own sake and hence involves absolute necessity. While for God, Whose will is perfectly holy, the moral law cannot be obligatory, it is for man, who is subject to sensuous impulses, an imperative command. Accordingly, the categorical imperative is the moral law enacted by practical reason, obligatory for man, whose sensibility is discordant from the rational order, and demanding obedience from respect for its universality and necessity.


Just a little extract from a link I was given inorder to better discuss the question `What is morality? `
I thought the answer to the question was, `Morality is not shitting on someone from a great height`
WTF is the above all about?! Am I missing something here?!
Venusxxx

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Not that bloody cat again!

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I've seen a very odd carrot that looked like a cat, is that the kind of thing you're talking about?

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And I've seen a carrot that looked like a penis.
Oh no....silly me....Scrap that.....
I used it like a penis redface

You've all got it wrong, the idea is that if you could see in 4 dimensions you would see time. Therefore a "cat" as a 4 dimensional object is everthing from when it was conceived to when it dies - the reason it looks a bit like a carrot is because as it gets older it gets bigger (At least to start with)
Of course this image ignores the fact that the cat moves about so maybe a 4 dimensional cat would look more like a timelapse photo of car headlights as it would exist in every place it had been in its entire life.
Roger the Dragon cool
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Bilko I was GOOD today......really I was, ask anyone....hardly any bollox at all, and I didn`t PM anyone......much.
Venusxxx
Actually, and with increasing despair on my part, NO. Some people just never quite get some things.
Consider Shrodinger's Cat - there are some for whom it just never sinks in.
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Actually, and with increasing despair on my part, NO. Some people just never quite get some things.
Consider Shrodinger's Cat - there are some for whom it just never sinks in.

And there are some for whom the important questions are - What colour is it? and does it wear a collar?
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Bilko I was GOOD today......really I was, ask anyone....hardly any bollox at all, and I didn`t PM anyone......much.

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Just don't start the crying routine!! rolleyes lol :lol: :lol: wink
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Actually, and with increasing despair on my part, NO. Some people just never quite get some things.
Consider Shrodinger's Cat - there are some for whom it just never sinks in.

I tried to do that experiment once. After a few days I thought I'd better check on the poor cat, see just where it was between dead or alive. However, when I opened the box which should have contained a dead/alive cat I was somewhat startled to discover it had, at some point, quite clearly turned into a small china tea set.