Been spending a lot of time in Italy over the festive period.
Not been on the forum much in the past few weeks.
What's new?
Italian television is sooooo bad...there are still personalities / presenters that used to be on when I was a kid..some 30 years ago.
I can't beleive that a country with so much cultural inheritance can have such poor quality programmes. The best TV (i'm talking films, documentaries, topical programmes and not the usual menu of soft porn) are usually on late at night when everybody is in bed.
I despair of this country where I grew up, we are becoming the laughing stock of Europe, what with that clown Berlusconi at its' helm...the fact that he owns 90% of all televison channels goes a long way to explaining the poor state of Italian TV..
Ok rant over
ciao for now
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Been spending a lot of time in Italy over the festive period.
Not been on the forum much in the past few weeks.
What's new?
Italian television is sooooo bad...there are still personalities / presenters that used to be on when I was a kid..some 30 years ago.
I can't beleive that a country with so much cultural inheritance can have such poor quality programmes. The best TV (i'm talking films, documentaries, topical programmes and not the usual menu of soft porn) are usually on late at night when everybody is in bed.
I despair of this country where I grew up, we are becoming the laughing stock of Europe, what with that clown Berlusconi at its' helm...the fact that he owns 90% of all televison channels goes a long way to explaining the poor state of Italian TV..
Ok rant over
ciao for now
Salve Veneziano. I've been studying Italian for over a decade, and like yourself despair at how a country with such a strong cultural history in art, film, literature, and the rest, and a fairly sophisticated populace, can have TV channels that make Jerry Springer look like Newsnight. Berlusconi's private channels have always been dire, but even before he got his mitts on the 3 RAI channels they were pretty poor, specialising in crass game shows and dubbed foreign films, although the news and current affairs progs were ok. Nowadays RAI has gone way down the tubes, at least that was the case when I last saw their transmissions a year or so back.
As you say, Il Cavaliere (more like Il Buffone) has an awful lot to answer for, but with luck he's a busted flush and will be out of office soon, after which his presidential immunity from prosecution will lapse and he'll end up before the beak again. Whether Italian TV will ever recover from his crassness is another matter, however.
On the plus side, there's usually plenty of young female flesh on view on the trash shows for us middle-aged gits to drool over, and the simplistic language used is very handy when you're learning vocabulary... ;-)
Mr Licks
With so much culture and vitality that Italy has to offer,who wants to waste time watching the box! Even politics is fun....who was that female party member going around nude some time back? gosh I would turn out on a wet windy night to support my local MP anytime if we had stuff like that going on over here !
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Hi
Ive a particular interest in all things italian at the moment. Just curious to know where you guys are from.
Caio
I'm a half-Brit, half-Mick italophile living in Nottingham, my main connection with Italy and things Italian being my sister, who speaks fluent Italian (though can't write it to save her life, strangely) after years there teaching English, and her now husband, who's a milanese. I also used to work in a language centre at a university surrounded by Europeans of various nationalities, including Italians of course, where I started off learning the lingo back in '93.
Veneziano, you've just come back from Italy - what's the dogging/swinging scene like in Italy, do you know?
Ciao 4 now
Mr Licks
To quickly answer you queries.
I am Italian, born in Nottingham, but grew up from an early age in Northern Italy, due to my italians parents returning home.
I am now back in Nottingham, full circle, viai London, after coming back to UK for work.
I'm spending a lot of time in Italy at the moment, at least 4 or 5 months a year. Mostly in the North
Never have any time to find out about the swinging scene, but then again I'm still trying to get a head start, without much success here in the UK too !!
I am in Italy as I write, just outside a city called Padova, where there seems to be a fashion for early doors apertif drinking sessions, the weather is cold and snowing, but I find italian cities so welcoming. There are always lots of comfortable places to sit and drink eat and watch the world go by. There never seems to be any of the tensions I feel in certain UK cities at night. I wouldn't dream of spending an evening in Nottingham City Centre on a weekend. Here everybody is much more relaxed about emjoying themselves , they don't have to rave and shout to show evrybody how much of a "good time" they are having, Don't get me wrong, italians get drunk too, but it's seems so different they way they react to achool. This country fascinates me, It's such a country of contrasts, Such beauty in their cities and art, the food and the warmness of the people and yet such ugliness in their flaunting of laws and all that buearocracy, the scandolous politicians who remain in power despite so much obvious negligence towards the people.
Think I'll go for an apertif.!!
Speak soon
Veneziano
I am Italian, born in Nottingham, but grew up from an early age in Northern Italy, due to my italians parents returning home.
I am now back in Nottingham, full circle, viai London, after coming back to UK for work.
I'm spending a lot of time in Italy at the moment, at least 4 or 5 months a year. Mostly in the North
Never have any time to find out about the swinging scene, but then again I'm still trying to get a head start, without much success here in the UK too !!
I am in Italy as I write, just outside a city called Padova, where there seems to be a fashion for early doors apertif drinking sessions, the weather is cold and snowing, but I find italian cities so welcoming. There are always lots of comfortable places to sit and drink eat and watch the world go by. There never seems to be any of the tensions I feel in certain UK cities at night. I wouldn't dream of spending an evening in Nottingham City Centre on a weekend. Here everybody is much more relaxed about emjoying themselves , they don't have to rave and shout to show evrybody how much of a "good time" they are having, Don't get me wrong, italians get drunk too, but it's seems so different they way they react to achool. This country fascinates me, It's such a country of contrasts, Such beauty in their cities and art, the food and the warmness of the people and yet such ugliness in their flaunting of laws and all that buearocracy, the scandolous politicians who remain in power despite so much obvious negligence towards the people.
Think I'll go for an apertif.!!
Speak soon
Veneziano
To quickly answer you queries.
I am Italian, born in Nottingham, but grew up from an early age in Northern Italy, due to my italians parents returning home.
I am now back in Nottingham, full circle, viai London, after coming back to UK for work.
I'm spending a lot of time in Italy at the moment, at least 4 or 5 months a year. Mostly in the North
Never have any time to find out about the swinging scene, but then again I'm still trying to get a head start, without much success here in the UK too !!
I am in Italy as I write, just outside a city called Padova, where there seems to be a fashion for early doors apertif drinking sessions, the weather is cold and snowing, but I find italian cities so welcoming. There are always lots of comfortable places to sit and drink eat and watch the world go by. There never seems to be any of the tensions I feel in certain UK cities at night. I wouldn't dream of spending an evening in Nottingham City Centre on a weekend. Here everybody is much more relaxed about emjoying themselves , they don't have to rave and shout to show evrybody how much of a "good time" they are having, Don't get me wrong, italians get drunk too, but it's seems so different they way they react to achool. This country fascinates me, It's such a country of contrasts, Such beauty in their cities and art, the food and the warmness of the people and yet such ugliness in their flaunting of laws and all that buearocracy, the scandolous politicians who remain in power despite so much obvious negligence towards the people.
Think I'll go for an apertif.!!
Speak soon
Veneziano
I am Italian, born in Nottingham, but grew up from an early age in Northern Italy, due to my italians parents returning home.
I am now back in Nottingham, full circle, viai London, after coming back to UK for work.
I'm spending a lot of time in Italy at the moment, at least 4 or 5 months a year. Mostly in the North
Never have any time to find out about the swinging scene, but then again I'm still trying to get a head start, without much success here in the UK too !!
I am in Italy as I write, just outside a city called Padova, where there seems to be a fashion for early doors apertif drinking sessions, the weather is cold and snowing, but I find italian cities so welcoming. There are always lots of comfortable places to sit and drink eat and watch the world go by. There never seems to be any of the tensions I feel in certain UK cities at night. I wouldn't dream of spending an evening in Nottingham City Centre on a weekend. Here everybody is much more relaxed about emjoying themselves , they don't have to rave and shout to show evrybody how much of a "good time" they are having, Don't get me wrong, italians get drunk too, but it's seems so different they way they react to achool. This country fascinates me, It's such a country of contrasts, Such beauty in their cities and art, the food and the warmness of the people and yet such ugliness in their flaunting of laws and all that buearocracy, the scandolous politicians who remain in power despite so much obvious negligence towards the people.
Think I'll go for an apertif.!!
Speak soon
Veneziano
Quote by Veneziano
To quickly answer you queries.
I am Italian, born in Nottingham, but grew up from an early age in Northern Italy, due to my italians parents returning home.
I am now back in Nottingham, full circle, viai London, after coming back to UK for work.
Ah, ci vediamo al prossimo Munch, magari? ;-)
Never have any time to find out about the swinging scene, but then again I'm still trying to get a head start, without much success here in the UK too !!
I'd be surprised if there wasn't some kind of swinging scene in Italy, as sex and eroticism is so much more a part of mainstream culture than over here, IMO. I don't know if Italians have more sex than Brits, but popular culture is even more suffused with it than over here, and I get the impression that Italians have far fewer hang-ups about sex than Brits. As far as I know, and that might not be far enough, there's no tradition of innuendo and doubles entendres in Italy, unlike here, which to me points to a very healthy and open attitude to sex. I sit ready to be corrected, though...
I am in Italy as I write, just outside a city called Padova, where there seems to be a fashion for early doors apertif drinking sessions, the weather is cold and snowing, but I find italian cities so welcoming. There are always lots of comfortable places to sit and drink eat and watch the world go by. There never seems to be any of the tensions I feel in certain UK cities at night. I wouldn't dream of spending an evening in Nottingham City Centre on a weekend.
Back when I worked in languages, only a few years back, I spent a week or so in Padova working at the university language centre, and found it a very laid-back place. I remember spending evenings in piazza restaurants scoffing great food and wine and just watching passers-by. A greater contrast to Nottingham city centre on a weekend, or even weekday, night, would be hard to imagine.
Mind you, I was told by some of the natives who were on the whole proud of their city, that it can be pretty unpleasant in winter with thick freezing fogs, and in summer with swarms of mosquitoes. Luckily I was there in the spring...
Think I'll go for an apertif.!!
Salute!
Mr Licks
Mr Lickman,
You seem very knowledgable about Italy and its' langauge etc.
I have enjoyed reading your cooments as they reflect my experience, past and present, of this wonderful country.
As far as the city of Padova is concerned you are absolutely spot on about the climate.
As I write there has been 3 days and nights of constant freezing fog. And I can vouch for the swarms of nasty mosquitos in the summer. But for all that, the the city is wonderfully placed: The fair cities of Venice, Verona, Vicenza and Treviso are all but a stones throw away, the Lakes are relatively close as well as the scenic mountains. The people here are warm and welcoming and on every trip I make I always make new friends.
I am sure there is a thriving swinging scene here, but as I said I have not had much time to discover. But you are right about the italians liberal attitude to sex. It's everywhere.
I have had a few relationships with italian girls and I can say in the bedroom they have all been exceptional, I'm not saying that the English girls aren't,
It just seems less of a hang up, they seem to enjoy themselves as much as you without feeling inhibited ...less ..ooh naughty naughty ....and more passionate right from the start.
One thing I would like to comment on which may go against popular belief is that Italian fashion, although highly thought of, is for me sometimes stale and conservative.
Don't get me wrong, they have all well cut clothes even the casual wear, but eveybody ends up wearing the same thing. As opposed to the UK, there doesn't seem to be much "street" fashion. In the UK, you can walk down any street and not see one person dressed as another, although sometimes horrendously dressed, it does show and element of not being regimented into wearing the same as anybody else.
Just look at the success of the British designers abroad, who take the street fashions and make them thier own.
Many italian friends of mine ,male and female, just love coming to the UK for their clothes as they say that you can buy something relatively cheap that you can always use to combine with other stuff. For example, if you're looking for a plain balck long sleeve t-shirt, you would be hard pressed to find something so plain in Italy, but if you do find one it would be more expensive and of course the best long sleeve T shirt ever, made from the best cotton and cut. My friends explain that they want something more throwaway and casual but to retain their sense of undeniable style.
I'm back in th UK tomorrow, and I am sure I will miss the "Motherland" , but I'll be back soon.
And of course I would love to be able to meet some of you at the Nottingham Munch which will be my first experience of the swinging scene.
Look forward to it
Ciao for now
Veneziano
You seem very knowledgable about Italy and its' langauge etc.
I have enjoyed reading your cooments as they reflect my experience, past and present, of this wonderful country.
As far as the city of Padova is concerned you are absolutely spot on about the climate.
As I write there has been 3 days and nights of constant freezing fog. And I can vouch for the swarms of nasty mosquitos in the summer. But for all that, the the city is wonderfully placed: The fair cities of Venice, Verona, Vicenza and Treviso are all but a stones throw away, the Lakes are relatively close as well as the scenic mountains. The people here are warm and welcoming and on every trip I make I always make new friends.
I am sure there is a thriving swinging scene here, but as I said I have not had much time to discover. But you are right about the italians liberal attitude to sex. It's everywhere.
I have had a few relationships with italian girls and I can say in the bedroom they have all been exceptional, I'm not saying that the English girls aren't,
It just seems less of a hang up, they seem to enjoy themselves as much as you without feeling inhibited ...less ..ooh naughty naughty ....and more passionate right from the start.
One thing I would like to comment on which may go against popular belief is that Italian fashion, although highly thought of, is for me sometimes stale and conservative.
Don't get me wrong, they have all well cut clothes even the casual wear, but eveybody ends up wearing the same thing. As opposed to the UK, there doesn't seem to be much "street" fashion. In the UK, you can walk down any street and not see one person dressed as another, although sometimes horrendously dressed, it does show and element of not being regimented into wearing the same as anybody else.
Just look at the success of the British designers abroad, who take the street fashions and make them thier own.
Many italian friends of mine ,male and female, just love coming to the UK for their clothes as they say that you can buy something relatively cheap that you can always use to combine with other stuff. For example, if you're looking for a plain balck long sleeve t-shirt, you would be hard pressed to find something so plain in Italy, but if you do find one it would be more expensive and of course the best long sleeve T shirt ever, made from the best cotton and cut. My friends explain that they want something more throwaway and casual but to retain their sense of undeniable style.
I'm back in th UK tomorrow, and I am sure I will miss the "Motherland" , but I'll be back soon.
And of course I would love to be able to meet some of you at the Nottingham Munch which will be my first experience of the swinging scene.
Look forward to it
Ciao for now
Veneziano
