its a chicken

12 Jan 2008

Sorry did I miss the point of the Jamie Oliver waffle show last night? :kick: loon

Which he has now gone and backtracked his views on Friday afternoon. lol

Wonder if it was more about the million plus good old Sainsbury’s pays him :small-print:
Now after all the hype about our feathered friends being cooped up in a barn(30+days)and then ending up on the shelf of a supermarket. I was more shocked by the 3 pence a chicken the poor farmer gets for his produce than how the chicken might feel that should have been the issue. dunno

If the greedy supermarkets gave the farmers more of the profits they are scamming out of it, they could give the little blighters a happier 30 days plus life.
As we already know some of the said companies have already admitted conning the public with milk and cheese price fixing, and still didn’t give the farmers any more money as they did it. mad

And the issue of the caged hens, yes its not pretty but wake up and smell the coffee beans its been going on for years ffs. rolleyes

So what was Jamie’s answer to all this? Yep you guessed it let us consumers pay an extra pound a chicken. Ok mate lets all live in your dream world of earning a million plus a year. What a muppet.
:sticky:
mr s aka victor meldrew biggrin

12 Jan 2008

I think you need more sex........... :mrgreen:

12 Jan 2008

hI 22'S. I tend to agree with you on the 'Wake up and smell the coffee' notion. Sometimes these people and their grandiose ideas are well intentioned but unfortunately they are coming from another place. Mars! for instance. I do know Jamie is from Essex but thats not dissimilar wink

This all makes good economic sense to terry the single guy living on his own in a bedsit on £59:00 a week cash doesn't it. I mean he'll just pop down the local organic farm shop and buy himself an organic pork chop hewn from a locally sourced pig named Sydney. Who, was reared with the aid of a specialist team of animal welfare officers. Who all know each other from school. £4:00 for a decny chop?
Terry will undoubtedly buy 4. I dont think! Terry instead grabs 2 chickens for a £5:00 from Tesco instead. Makes sense to Terry. Good old Terry

12 Jan 2008

Quote by Sweet22couple
So what was Jamie’s answer to all this? Yep you guessed it let us consumers pay an extra pound a chicken. Ok mate lets all live in your dream world of earning a million plus a year. What a muppet.
:sticky:
mr s aka victor meldrew

An extra pound confused

not in my local supermarket.
I was having a look today after watching Jamie Oliver's programme last night and Hugh whats his face's programme that was on all this week. The intensively farmed chickens were and the free range/organic were :shock: now I was going to get chicken for tommorow but after seeing those prices I just did'nt bother at all.
I realise it's been going on for years but I had never really seen how these intensively farmed chickens live and now that I have, it has changed my view about eating them.
The only problem is, im going to have to avoid so many thing's that contain chicken/eggs that are not free range :?
Louise xx

13 Jan 2008

I didn't see the show with Jamie Oliver's programme but did see Hugh's Chicken Run, and was just wondering what about the chicken at KFC, or is it just the supermarkets 2 for a five that pisses them off, as i'm sure KFC get through some each week

13 Jan 2008

Battery hens and eggs will run on for ever as is has been going on for years the truth of it is, its quantity and cost. only using free range chickens and eggs in everything will put the cost of every day shopping by quite an amount not just in eggs and chickens
mayonaise? sandwich fillings? salad dressings? merringues? pavlovas? shop bought mash potatoe/ duchess potatoes? breads? pasta? cakes? and many many more products of which the price will rise if only free range are used. Its not nice to see battery hens living the way they do but its a dog eat dog world when producers can offer manufacturers and consumers the quantity and price of battery chickens and egg and side products in the free range products, then we may see a difference
hope it makes sence

13 Jan 2008

What the farmers are doing is not illegal, so if Mr. Oliver has a problem - take it to those who draw up the rules, not make a TV programme about it.

13 Jan 2008

Jamie was ensuring that -
those who didn't know about it, knew.
those that now knew would hopefully make a change as he was helping people understand that their money and choices are what change things. Right through from eating crap- eg 'turkey twizzlers' served as a school lunch, to buying poorly reared chicken because it is cheap.
If you notice he changed some people's minds on the programme and not others. I am sure that was reflected through-out the country.
He certainly educated people about what they are choosing to eat.
I do wonder if the same people who talk about 'the good old days' are the same people that berate Jamie for what he is attempting to do:- Re-introduce food cooked with ingredients that we can trace.

13 Jan 2008

Quote by Rockrockrock
What the farmers are doing is not illegal, so if Mr. Oliver has a problem - take it to those who draw up the rules, not make a TV programme about it.

If he'd done that with the school dinners, do you think he'd have achieved the level of success he did-without the publicity?

13 Jan 2008

Quote by splendid_
Jamie was ensuring that -
those who didn't know about it, knew.
those that now knew would hopefully make a change as he was helping people understand that their money and choices are what change things. Right through from eating crap- eg 'turkey twizzlers' served as a school lunch, to buying poorly reared chicken because it is cheap.
If you notice he changed some people's minds on the programme and not others. I am sure that was reflected through-out the country.
He certainly educated people about what they are choosing to eat.
I do wonder if the same people who talk about 'the good old days' are the same people that berate Jamie for what he is attempting to do:- Re-introduce food cooked with ingredients that we can trace.

:thumbup:
Like him or not, he gets people talking!

13 Jan 2008

'And the issue of the caged hens, yes its not pretty but wake up and smell the coffee beans its been going on for years ffs.'
Just because its been happening for years does not make it right.
Most people eat what they can afford without giving any thought whatsoever about the 'living' conditions that these creatures have to put up with.

13 Jan 2008

Quote by winchwench
What the farmers are doing is not illegal, so if Mr. Oliver has a problem - take it to those who draw up the rules, not make a TV programme about it.

If he'd done that with the school dinners, do you think he'd have achieved the level of success he did-without the publicity?

Though at the time, we did have a different Prime-Minister who had media savvy.. I think Jamie Oliver was right about school dinners & he has a point with the chickens - but the problem with just making a TV show is that we get this big furore that will carry on for a few more weeks - then it will get forgotten and nothing much will change. All the government did with the school dinners was shift money from one part of the education system to the other.
If he wants better conditions for animals try to get the minimum standards raised. If food is cheap to buy, it's cheap to produce - so everything that happens in the manufacture of the product will be done to the minimum standards in place.

13 Jan 2008

I have watched the Hugh programmes and now the Jamie one and now know an awful lot more than I did before. I have always bought freerange eggs and will definitely continue to do so and now I will buy chicken from the farm shop that belongs to the farm I live opposite. If it's too expensive to buy as much chicken as I have been I will eat something else instead.
My 12 year old watched it with me and stated that she won't be eating chicken at all :shock: so now I'm wondering if I have a veggie in the making? we will see. As she would say....Whatever!!!

13 Jan 2008

Sorry I like Jamie.. he's straight to the point, nae frills. I like the fact he brings the reality of the likes of twizzlers to people's attention and his programme the other night showed all that crap going into the machine and coming out in mush which people eat.
Not nice.

14 Jan 2008

Quote by firelizard
I have watched the Hugh programmes and now the Jamie one and now know an awful lot more than I did before. I have always bought freerange eggs and will definitely continue to do so and now I will buy chicken from the farm shop that belongs to the farm I live opposite. If it's too expensive to buy as much chicken as I have been I will eat something else instead.
My 12 year old watched it with me and stated that she won't be eating chicken at all :shock: so now I'm wondering if I have a veggie in the making? we will see. As she would say....Whatever!!!

But will you make sure all other egg / chicken products that you use/ consume are free range??

14 Jan 2008

Quote by X_fanny_x
I have watched the Hugh programmes and now the Jamie one and now know an awful lot more than I did before. I have always bought freerange eggs and will definitely continue to do so and now I will buy chicken from the farm shop that belongs to the farm I live opposite. If it's too expensive to buy as much chicken as I have been I will eat something else instead.
My 12 year old watched it with me and stated that she won't be eating chicken at all :shock: so now I'm wondering if I have a veggie in the making? we will see. As she would say....Whatever!!!

But will you make sure all other egg / chicken products that you use/ consume are free range??
Which would be very difficult to do. confused

Louise xx

14 Jan 2008

Quote by louise_and_joe
I have watched the Hugh programmes and now the Jamie one and now know an awful lot more than I did before. I have always bought freerange eggs and will definitely continue to do so and now I will buy chicken from the farm shop that belongs to the farm I live opposite. If it's too expensive to buy as much chicken as I have been I will eat something else instead.
My 12 year old watched it with me and stated that she won't be eating chicken at all :shock: so now I'm wondering if I have a veggie in the making? we will see. As she would say....Whatever!!!

But will you make sure all other egg / chicken products that you use/ consume are free range??
Which would be very difficult to do. confused

Louise xx
extremely difficult as most bi products are used with battery chickens/eggs and are used in alot more things than people realise

14 Jan 2008

Quote by X_fanny_x
I have watched the Hugh programmes and now the Jamie one and now know an awful lot more than I did before. I have always bought freerange eggs and will definitely continue to do so and now I will buy chicken from the farm shop that belongs to the farm I live opposite. If it's too expensive to buy as much chicken as I have been I will eat something else instead.
My 12 year old watched it with me and stated that she won't be eating chicken at all :shock: so now I'm wondering if I have a veggie in the making? we will see. As she would say....Whatever!!!

But will you make sure all other egg / chicken products that you use/ consume are free range??
Which would be very difficult to do. confused

Louise xx
extremely difficult as most bi products are used with battery chickens/eggs and are used in alot more things than people realise
:shock:
Adds a whole new meaning to "Which came first......" lol

14 Jan 2008

Quote by X_fanny_x
extremely difficult as most bi products are used with battery chickens/eggs and are used in alot more things than people realise

Bi's have there own products now? bolt

14 Jan 2008

Quote by Unc

extremely difficult as most bi products are used with battery chickens/eggs and are used in alot more things than people realise

Bi's have there own products now? bolt

ok ok maybe i used the wrong wording for a discussion on a swingers forum rolleyes

:shock:
oh bolloxy you knew what i meant lol

14 Jan 2008

Quote by X_fanny_x
I have watched the Hugh programmes and now the Jamie one and now know an awful lot more than I did before. I have always bought freerange eggs and will definitely continue to do so and now I will buy chicken from the farm shop that belongs to the farm I live opposite. If it's too expensive to buy as much chicken as I have been I will eat something else instead.
My 12 year old watched it with me and stated that she won't be eating chicken at all :shock: so now I'm wondering if I have a veggie in the making? we will see. As she would say....Whatever!!!

But will you make sure all other egg / chicken products that you use/ consume are free range??
I will certainly give it a go :thumbup:

14 Jan 2008

Quote by firelizard
I have watched the Hugh programmes and now the Jamie one and now know an awful lot more than I did before. I have always bought freerange eggs and will definitely continue to do so and now I will buy chicken from the farm shop that belongs to the farm I live opposite. If it's too expensive to buy as much chicken as I have been I will eat something else instead.
My 12 year old watched it with me and stated that she won't be eating chicken at all :shock: so now I'm wondering if I have a veggie in the making? we will see. As she would say....Whatever!!!

But will you make sure all other egg / chicken products that you use/ consume are free range??
I will certainly give it a go :thumbup:
Good for you hun. After all, making an effort if you feel strongly about it is better than saying " I can't be certain, so I won't bother"
And as for the eating something else instead....:rascal:

14 Jan 2008

people other than can make you think too.
I did have stuff that was more directly related to food... though for the life of me, cannot think of it right now
lp

14 Jan 2008

Quote by firelizard
I have watched the Hugh programmes and now the Jamie one and now know an awful lot more than I did before. I have always bought freerange eggs and will definitely continue to do so and now I will buy chicken from the farm shop that belongs to the farm I live opposite. If it's too expensive to buy as much chicken as I have been I will eat something else instead.
My 12 year old watched it with me and stated that she won't be eating chicken at all :shock: so now I'm wondering if I have a veggie in the making? we will see. As she would say....Whatever!!!

But will you make sure all other egg / chicken products that you use/ consume are free range??
I will certainly give it a go :thumbup:
oh yes certainly worth a go alot of it depends on what you actually eat and wether you cook from scratch wink