It's rubbish!!

2 May 2007

I think the idea of refuse collections every two weeks has nothing to do with environment and more to do with cost cutting for councils.
If Our county goes to this system of collecting every fortnight i would like to see the breakdown of the council tax re:- waste collections cost reduced. Do I think this will happen do I boll*x!
Whilst on this I think it should be pointed out that we are now told that we should cut down on waste food thrown away! Why? I heart a 'spokesman' for the government say its because it creates 5-6 million tons of waste !!!! a year to go into landfill. Surely this makes little difference with food being bio-degradable.
Dont get me wrong - I believe in good housekeeping. Although i hate the shite that sometimes comes from
this sort of stuff.

2 May 2007

yes i do have to agree with you on this lost but at least it will mean i shall only get held up by the bin men parking in the middle of the road when im on the way to work every other week!!
maybe they could come up with other ways of getting the rubbish sorted like making law breakers do so many hours sorting all the different types of rubbish out or the long term unemployed who dont have disabilities just to get them back into the swing of regular work smile

2 May 2007

We have our rubbish collected every week but with 5 of us in the house it often isn't enough. So we did as we were told and claimed for a half sized bin, about 16 times because the bloody thing has never turned up!
We have recycling every other week with garden waste in between.
It isn't enough, we recycle as much as possible and most weeks have to go down to the recycling point once if not twice a week.
The thought of these collection being cut down is just not acceptable in my books but I do expect because of the cost, that it will happen sooner or later rolleyes

2 May 2007

The goverment capped the counclis' ability to increase poll tax to 5%....
Our council increased by 4.9% rolleyes

What do we get every year that is extra (as the tax increases every year)....
A reduction in services....... mad

If my place of work worked like that we would soon be out of business...
"Sorry Sir.....The price has increased and as a result we will change your oil but if you want the filters changing I'm afraid thats extra"
That'd work well eh.....

2 May 2007

Britain has the hightest landfill figures in Europe.
The European law now has power to fine our councils for going over set landfill targets. These costs will be past on to us in the form of higher council taxes.
British households dump just under a third of all the food they buy, although half is inedible waste
Most of waste food goes into landfill sites, where it breaks down and causes greenhouse gases.
Quotes from BBC News and Express

DD

2 May 2007

Quote by devondelight
Britain has the hightest landfill figures in Europe.
The European law now has power to fine our councils for going over set landfill targets. These costs will be past on to us in the form of higher council taxes.
British households dump just under a third of all the food they buy, although half is inedible waste
Most of waste food goes into landfill sites, where it breaks down and causes greenhouse gases.
Quotes from BBC News and Guardian

DD

Ahhhhh the old "Greenhouse Gas" chestnut again.....
Isnt that why the goverment are taxing the arse off the motorist as well confused

Sure somebody somewhere thought being part of Europe was a good idea rolleyes

2 May 2007

On my estate we pay an extra service charge for the use of 4 communal bins ( the huge metal ones ) Trouble is, people come from all over the place to dump THEIR rubbish in them so within 3 days they're all full! I saw a woman pull up in her car, get 4 bags from the boot into the bins and drive off again !!!!! mad

We have only 2 composting bins between 20 properties and the green bags are just dumped next to them ( again anyone and everyone doing it ) so these overspill at times. There's never a day goes by when there's not green bags left lying around ( I keep mine out back until the day before collection but most don't evil

)
Lord knows what our street would look like if we had fortnightly collections :shock:

2 May 2007

Quote by Lost
I think the idea of refuse collections every two weeks has nothing to do with environment and more to do with cost cutting for councils.

I'm all for recycling, but I do think the council play the "it's for the environment" card to justify cost cutting way too often.
We had the bi-weekly collections (with the green grass & twig bin for the other week) introduced in January when we had severe snow and ice.
Now I can be a bit cynical, but who the fook does gardening when it's -4 c and there's a foot of snow in the garden dunno

I can honestly say it's only in the last month that I have seen any of the neighbours usuing the "grass bin"
So in my mind, the council have had a week off for the first 3 months of this year and not really done anything for the environment in that time confused

2 May 2007

We have rubbish collection and recycling every week (at the moment) but it doesnt make any difference to some of the lazy people in our road who put stinking bags of rubbish out on the pavement on any day, including just after the rubbish has been collected. We also had neighbours putting their black sacks in our garden (til I caught them at it evil

)I dont think there will ever be a solution to the rubbish problem. I recycle as much as possible and we do have a compost bin as well but 1 of our biggest items that goes into waste is plastic which isnt recyclable in this area. My biggest bug bear? Unsolicited mail order catalogues which are often huge and go straight into the recycling bin, but will they stop sending them? No sodding way.

2 May 2007

Quote by Sassy-Seren
On my estate we pay an extra service charge for the use of 4 communal bins ( the huge metal ones ) Trouble is, people come from all over the place to dump THEIR rubbish in them so within 3 days they're all full! I saw a woman pull up in her car, get 4 bags from the boot into the bins and drive off again !!!!!

we get the same ......it pisses me off no end when i see it happen....i've even gone out and had a go at some people....espec builders!

2 May 2007

Where i used to live there is a 2 weekly colletion and has been going for over a year i found it ok as long as i always rememberd to put the wheely bin out on time but then again i live alone and its normaly less than half full '
i don't know how familys go on with kids must be a pain in the neck
confused

Debz xxxx

2 May 2007

Where i used to live there is a 2 weekly colletion and has been going for over a year i found it ok as long as i always rememberd to put the wheely bin out on time but then again i live alone and its normaly less than half full '
i don't know how familys go on with kids must be a pain in the neck
confused

Debz xxxx

2 May 2007

Its all down to packaging used nowadays, and since the introduction of microwaves and ready meals its steadily become worse, I can mind years ago we used to get 2 black plastic bin liners each week and most of the time they were more than adequate, well excluding xmas etc, but these 2 said bin liners would hardly line the bottom of modern wheelie bins, Its about time food suppliers and supermarkets took a good look at this? Next time you pop into your local tesco’s just think that all that you see on the shelves will probably be gone in a week and filled with more crap, and that’s just one store, when we go on our weekly shopping trip half our bin is filled just with the packaging never mind anything else.

2 May 2007

family of 5 = an awful lot of rubbish! - but, now we recycle as much as possible (including plastic which we have to make a seperate journey for) and have recently made use of a compost bin for food waste. It does make a difference!!! Compared to the 3 or 4 bags of rubbish our neighbours put out we have on average just 1 and i cannot believe the lack of recycling from those in our street mad

I also believe the councils use the 'enviroment' card to their advantage too but surely the responsibility ultimately lies with us and whether forced into it or not, someone will pay the price!
Mrs G x

2 May 2007

always said you talked rubbish Lostie :giggle:
redface

well someone was gonna say it!

2 May 2007

Have you noticed you only get new bags from the council AFTER you've bought your own? mad

2 May 2007

Where I used to live, they have had fortnightly collections for some time (atleast 6 months). In addition to that the Council in their "wisdom" have decided that if people don't use the blue boxes for recycling then the black bin that the household in question has will be replaced with a bin 25% smaller.
SO this means that a family has to compress 2 weeks rubbish in one bin. If the blue recycling bins are full they have nowhere else to put recyclable material (the amount of Bottle banks etc have also fallen too, and those that still exist don't get emptied enough), and are then punished by getting a smaller bin.
And if that wasn't a kick in the fork the Council tax was increased twice - because although the collection times was reduced to twice a month, it's "still far too costly to have a weekly service".
So my former town is charged more and gets less! rolleyes

2 May 2007

This reminds me of a case my brother faced a few years ago and a point in law it brought to light..
He used to work away for a few days at a time and many a time missed taking his bin out onto the street to be collected as requested by the council. Now don't forget the same councils have a policy of if you leave your bin out too long its an obstruction and you can be fined for such!! So.... facing a stink or a fine he called the council and asked for the bin to be removed from the rear of his house... No say the council.. No can do!! So the first week after he took said bin in his landrover and deposited the rubbish in the councils reception with a warning more would follow.. The council took him to court and the court ruled that it was the councils Legal Responsibility to remove the rubbish under contract and for health and safety of others...
The point is we all followed that route saving them money taking bins out etc this is the next step and then we will all have our rubbish weighed upon collection and charged accordingly.. see the little chip under your rims.. all ready to make you pay more for less service
Sorry it went on.....
Mike

2 May 2007

I'm lucky, my council still do weekly collctions but the recycling in my area is (excuse the pun) rubbish. We have a normal weekly wheely bin and a bag for paper which is collected fortnightly. I live alone so it's fine for me but its not enough for families. It doesn't help that there's no recycling points near me either so it's not easy to recycle as much as I'd like. My council tax keeps going up and the council talk about recycling being made easier but nothing ever happens.

2 May 2007

Our local council introduced the fortnightly collection last yr, i didnt think it would work, mad

but it has. Our recycling boxes r emptied weekly & the garden waste & household every alternate wk. I suppose living where i do & having the markets twice a wk & the farmers market 2 cuts out a whole heap of packaging that i would normaly get from superstores. But more needs 2 b done on more of the plastics that can b recycled & every1 thats able 2 recycle should. I even remove the plastic windows out of envelopes lol

2 May 2007

My lot (SDDC) are ok, fortnightly collections of general waste and recycling glass, paper, cans and compostables in between. Adding plastic bottles this year. I'm ok cos there is just 2 of us here.
To be honest I'd recycle as much anyway, I'm a bit green that way, but I wish they would collect cardboard - the council bins are always overflowing.

2 May 2007

Quote by buckingfabe
My biggest bug bear? Unsolicited mail order catalogues which are often huge and go straight into the recycling bin, but will they stop sending them? No sodding way.

Try sending them back - just stick them in the post box with "not known at this address" on them. :twisted:

2 May 2007

First of all I have to :grin: as Losts other post about polotics has a majority of people saying they cant be arsed with it but here everyone chomping at the bit to get thier teeth round one of the biggest political issues of the last two years.
We have normal rubbish collected every two weeks and recyling and food collectged every week, includes cardboard. There are 3 of us we manage no problem. The only problem I have noticed is an increase in litter round the estate when its windy as it all blows everywhere including the dam boxs and the collection people dont collect it. Today a cardboard box had blown 15 feet up the road from my brown bin, one collection guy walked past it and the lorry drove over it mad

2 May 2007

Am I the only one who doesn't find it a bind?
We have black bins one week (general rubbish) and the blue bin (plastics & Cans/brown bin (card & garden/organic waste) the next. Paper recycling happens the same week and the blue/brown bin.
We have a composter for green/organic waste and where possible eliminate packaging at source! We used to have a veg box but since we're both working full time it's fallen by the wayside.
There are some weeks where I don't need to put the recycling bin out and the brown one goes out once a month. I've never had a problems with maggots or flies either.
But then .. I used washable nappies on my kids and ran a project promoting this so I am predisposed to recycling.
Mallock .. the green house gas bit doesn't come into it in most councils. The plain and simple fact is that landfills are mainly full and people don't want new ones opening on their doorsteps understandably. If we can reduce the amount of waste going to landfill it extends the life of these landfills!
The bit about the EU imposing massive taxes on councils does mean it's a bit more imperative as well.
Cx

14 May 2007

I used to be involved in the Refuse and Cleansing Dept of our local Council. Some of this info may be out of date but I hope the essescent is right.
The Council's drive for recycling is driven by the high costs of landfill and the stiff fines for not meeting recycling targets.
It costs more to collect cardboard than the Council gets paid by recyclers. There must be a very thin line between the costs in money and the amount of pollution caused by driving lorries full of empty plastic bottles than the making new ones.
Everyone must decide why they recycle is it to save money? If so, it realy doesn't work.
The amount of rubbish a household produces is dependant on how the rubbish is collected. Households who use black sacks produce (on average) less rubbish than those with wheelie bins.

14 May 2007

The amount of rubbish a household produces is dependant on how the rubbish is collected. Households who use black sacks produce (on average) less rubbish than those with wheelie bins.

Huh? No offence Keeno - I'm sure you are quoting something that you were told by someone you considered an "authority" on the matter - but how can that be? I can't see any reason why the amount of things thrown out by an average household would change just because the collection method changed from black bags to wheelie bins... dunno

Or am I missing something?
Russell

15 May 2007

Quote by swing_fun_cpl
The amount of rubbish a household produces is dependant on how the rubbish is collected. Households who use black sacks produce (on average) less rubbish than those with wheelie bins.

Huh? No offence Keeno - I'm sure you are quoting something that you were told by someone you considered an "authority" on the matter - but how can that be? I can't see any reason why the amount of things thrown out by an average household would change just because the collection method changed from black bags to wheelie bins... dunno

Or am I missing something?
You're right that these are Council figures but apperently it is true. Households with wheelie bins produce more rubbish.
How do they know?
Well, the weigh it as it goes on to the tip.
Russell

15 May 2007

Thanks for the info Keeno. It still seems weird tho! blink

:silly:

16 May 2007

Quote by Mallock2006
Britain has the hightest landfill figures in Europe.
The European law now has power to fine our councils for going over set landfill targets. These costs will be past on to us in the form of higher council taxes.
British households dump just under a third of all the food they buy, although half is inedible waste
Most of waste food goes into landfill sites, where it breaks down and causes greenhouse gases.
Quotes from BBC News and Guardian

DD

Ahhhhh the old "Greenhouse Gas" chestnut again.....
Isnt that why the goverment are taxing the arse off the motorist as well confused

Sure somebody somewhere thought being part of Europe was a good idea rolleyes

Well one farm finds enough methane from rotting food and pig effluent to burn it off to make electricity. The food comes from local supermarkets - truck loads of it :shock:
(As seen on BBC1 Breakfast this morning)

17 May 2007

Quote by swing_fun_cpl
Thanks for the info Keeno. It still seems weird tho! :silly:

I think it is because people fill whatever container their rubbish is collected in up. The bigger the container the more rubbish :shock: