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i have noticed recently that even though we are a bunch of swingers that are meant to be able to enjoy the freedom to shag who we want when we want without feeling judged for our loose morals as everyone here is doing the same or supposedly so, yet there seem to be a very high number whoose morals are much tighter and they judge openly those that are just plain enjoying themselves
it just plain confuses me
i have not been on the recieving end of any open judgements but i do know of friends that have basically been called slags for swinging ffs i mean whats that all about?
what i love about swinging is it gives myself and my husband the opportunity to fullfill fantasies with as many others as we desire and to be as dirty as we want to be and luckily for me the only person i worry about judging me is my husband and i am an incredibly lucky wife in the fact he doesn't have a judgemental bone in his body and he enjoys the freedom swinging gives us to be proper mucky sluts as much as i do
so this is my question
are you someone that believes that even if you are a swinger you should not shag anything in sight that takes ya fancy and if you do believe that then why? enlighten me as to why there should be some sort of limit
and is there still double standards even here are guys forgiven for shagging anything with a pulse yet women need to be more reserved in their numbers or is it as it should be a free for all shag as many as ya wanna no matter what ya gender?
I was talking about this just yesterday because it disappoints me when I notice people living this lifestyle still judging others.
We all like different things and in this lifestyle, we should be accepeting of others choices even in it doesnt flick our switch!!
Just becuase I dont fancy S&M doesnt make it wrong so who am I to judge them. As long as everyone involved is happy with what is going on and no one is going to get seiously hurt then each to their own. I must admit though that I had concerns about the drinking engine oil fetish but only as I think it is possibly very hazzardous to health.
I have heard many comments, in the chatrooms and in the forum about dogging (Some comments made to me, some not). Now we don't go often, but when we do we have such a laugh and of course I (Mrs) have lots of fun. The comments include how it is dangerous and that my hubby is irresponsible to take me dogging!! What a fooking cheek!!
If you dont fancy it yourself then dont try it, if you are intrigued or concerned then speak to people who have done it, but dont knock it till you've tried it!!
So should we be able to shag anything that takes our fancy?? I reckon so, as long as all concerned are consenting adults then why the hell not, no matter what your gender, orientation or fetish!!
Have fun!!
Interestingly I just wrote half a page of reply, then erased it all. Actually says something about the original post. I do this a few times here actually as its often just not worth the debate a point of view will cause.
The issue here is differences.
Everyone is different; they have different looks, ideas, beliefs etc.
Generally in human society people try to group together, and it is the difference that brings them together.
The problem then is that they see people that are not in their group as wrong.
Religon is a prime example.. People with the same beliefs group together and then often shun the others.
Basically if I am right you have to be wrong
Andy
Quote by tweeky
Interestingly I just wrote half a page of reply, then erased it all. Actually says something about the original post. I do this a few times here actually as its often just not worth the debate a point of view will cause.

intrigued to know what it says about original post and a debate is always worth it debate is how we open minds do you not think
We're all Judgey McJudgerson!
There are very few exceptions.
This is life.
lol
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We're all Judgey McJudgerson!
There are very few exceptions.
This is life.
lol

I am not Judgey !! All of you that think I am are wrong . hehe
Quote by Dirtygirly
We're all Judgey McJudgerson!
There are very few exceptions.
This is life.
lol

very much granted and i have said as much myself on many more than one occasion but i just do not get how swingers can be judgemental on the ammount of shags other swingers get its, in my mind, a contradiction of great proportion
Quote by bouncy332
We're all Judgey McJudgerson!
There are very few exceptions.
This is life.
lol

very much granted and i have said as much myself on many more than one occasion but i just do not get how swingers can be judgemental on the ammount of shags other swingers get its, in my mind, a contradiction of great proportion
Well personally I don't care how many shags anyone has. Each to their own.
However, I dare say I'd have a judgemental thought about it though... mainly because I wouldn't shag anyone and everyone so when you come across people who do, you can't help but think what you think about it.
I guess we have our own standards and our own behaviour as a bench mark and stuff that's outwith that is different so we obviously have a view on it. Whether we choose to voice that view is the key thing in my opinion. You can't help the way you think. You can help the way you act.
Does that make sense?
:mrgreen:
Quote by Dirtygirly
We're all Judgey McJudgerson!
There are very few exceptions.
This is life.
lol

very much granted and i have said as much myself on many more than one occasion but i just do not get how swingers can be judgemental on the ammount of shags other swingers get its, in my mind, a contradiction of great proportion
Well personally I don't care how many shags anyone has. Each to their own.
However, I dare say I'd have a judgemental thought about it though... mainly because I wouldn't shag anyone and everyone so when you come across people who do, you can't help but think what you think about it.
I guess we have our own standards and our own behaviour as a bench mark and stuff that's outwith that is different so we obviously have a view on it. Whether we choose to voice that view is the key thing in my opinion. You can't help the way you think. You can help the way you act.
Does that make sense?
:mrgreen:
it does make sense DG n i guess thats where my point may lay maybe there is no need to voice ya opinion on such stuff i do think sometimes those that do do it to just be spitefull my friend that this happened to was quite hurt by the gossip that was going on about her and no matter how i or other friends told her to just let it go n get on with having fun she still felt wounded by the spitefull comments
i guess thats where i and her differ i would of given um it with both barrels me
We used to use another site that had a verification system, you know the one that SH said they would never employ. lol
We definatly sided away from couples who had about five thousand verifications on their profile.
We felt that with the ammount some had the " chemistry " did not have to be there. Now we do not knock others for the ammount of people they shag, but for us chemistry and at least liking the people play a huge role.
Yes of course there are some that do shag anything anytime, and those we tend to avoid.
We are fussy and prefer to meet others that are not " hardened swingers ".
Purely our choice of course, as others have their choices. I personally would not like the gang bang scene, or mrs777 shagging anything that had a cock.
Call it morals....call it what you will, just our personnel choice, of which we are all entitled too.
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We used to use another site that had a verification system, you know the one that SH said they would never employ. lol
quote]
from page2 of the pdf
Is Shrep a verification system?
No. It is a unique and complete reputation system with three parts based on how
members conduct themselves with others. It will also help new users generate a positive Shrep even if they have not met anyone yet or just choose to use the site socially
providing their conduct is satisfactory towards others. This could subsequently help new members to secure a face-to-face meeting based on their site conduct, even if they have had no previous meets. It also gives people that you actually do know away from the site the opportunity to check your profile details and “Vouch” they are correct.
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Interestingly I just wrote half a page of reply, then erased it all. Actually says something about the original post. I do this a few times here actually as its often just not worth the debate a point of view will cause.

intrigued to know what it says about original post and a debate is always worth it debate is how we open minds do you not think
It says that the point of view I would post would then be judged and may cause 4-5 pages of debate with which I cant be arsed, so I just shut up lol
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We used to use another site that had a verification system, you know the one that SH said they would never employ. lol
quote]
from page2 of the pdf
Is Shrep a verification system?
No. It is a unique and complete reputation system with three parts based on how
members conduct themselves with others. It will also help new users generate a positive Shrep even if they have not met anyone yet or just choose to use the site socially
providing their conduct is satisfactory towards others. This could subsequently help new members to secure a face-to-face meeting based on their site conduct, even if they have had no previous meets. It also gives people that you actually do know away from the site the opportunity to check your profile details and “Vouch” they are correct.

The Americans call a "tap" a "faucet"..............it's still a tap though
Quote by tweeky
Interestingly I just wrote half a page of reply, then erased it all. Actually says something about the original post. I do this a few times here actually as its often just not worth the debate a point of view will cause.

intrigued to know what it says about original post and a debate is always worth it debate is how we open minds do you not think
It says that the point of view I would post would then be judged and may cause 4-5 pages of debate with which I cant be arsed, so I just shut up lol
you should never ever shut up its your opinion your entitled to it and entitled to voice it as much as the next person even if not one single person agrees with it you should still voice it
and you don't have to reply to those that disagree
go on be a devil ;)
Quote by kentswingers777
We used to use another site that had a verification system, you know the one that SH said they would never employ. lol
We definatly sided away from couples who had about five thousand verifications on their profile.
We felt that with the ammount some had the " chemistry " did not have to be there. Now we do not knock others for the ammount of people they shag, but for us chemistry and at least liking the people play a huge role.
Yes of course there are some that do shag anything anytime, and those we tend to avoid.
We are fussy and prefer to meet others that are not " hardened swingers ".
Purely our choice of course, as others have their choices. I personally would not like the gang bang scene, or mrs777 shagging anything that had a cock.
Call it morals....call it what you will, just our personnel choice, of which we are all entitled too.

very well put kenty and i actually kinda see where your coming from and understand and respect your choices
but then i also respect the choices of those that do wanna shag anything with a cock/pussy
its all just good open honest fun after all between consenting adults after all
You all disgust me with your lose morals and fornicating ways....what on earth do you think God made sheep for
Quote by Funlovers2009
I was talking about this just yesterday because it disappoints me when I notice people living this lifestyle still judging others.
We all like different things and in this lifestyle, we should be accepeting of others choices even in it doesnt flick our switch!!
Just becuase I dont fancy S&M doesnt make it wrong so who am I to judge them. As long as everyone involved is happy with what is going on and no one is going to get seiously hurt then each to their own. I must admit though that I had concerns about the drinking engine oil fetish but only as I think it is possibly very hazzardous to health.
I have heard many comments, in the chatrooms and in the forum about dogging (Some comments made to me, some not). Now we don't go often, but when we do we have such a laugh and of course I (Mrs) have lots of fun. The comments include how it is dangerous and that my hubby is irresponsible to take me dogging!! What a fooking cheek!!
If you dont fancy it yourself then dont try it, if you are intrigued or concerned then speak to people who have done it, but dont knock it till you've tried it!!
So should we be able to shag anything that takes our fancy?? I reckon so, as long as all concerned are consenting adults then why the hell not, no matter what your gender, orientation or fetish!!
Have fun!!

I've just been reading everyone elses responses and when I read mine back it kinda sounds like we'll shag anything that moves ..... I just wanted to confirm that we dont!! We like to have fun and lots of it but there has to be an attraction there!!
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You all disgust me with your lose morals and fornicating ways....what on earth do you think God made sheep for

rotflmao:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
Quote by tweeky
Interestingly I just wrote half a page of reply, then erased it all. Actually says something about the original post. I do this a few times here actually as its often just not worth the debate a point of view will cause.

intrigued to know what it says about original post and a debate is always worth it debate is how we open minds do you not think
It says that the point of view I would post would then be judged and may cause 4-5 pages of debate with which I cant be arsed, so I just shut up lol
So instead you posted that you hadn't posted what you intended to post, thus causing debate with which you probably can't be arsed. dunno
This is going to sound really odd, but I would love to be one of those people who could just have sex with anyone I wanted to, be totally open about it and just get on and do it, but I cant and I dont think I ever could. Also, I try not judge anyone who does this and say good luck to them if that is what they want and they are comfortable with themselves doing it.
However, I do find that I do judge myself, and probably more harshly than others would necesarily judge me (well, I hope so). It is only this last 12 months that I have started to be more open about what I want and what I get up to. I dont mean graphic details or telling others the details of people who I have met but I mean being less embarrassed about myself, my meets and my fantasies. Even as a swinger, I do not want others to think of me as 'easy' and that is total madness as it has nothing what so ever to do with anyone else, but I still even now, do worry to some extent what others think.
I think we are naturally judgemental and although we try not to be, we instinctively do it even if we dont want to. Also, I do think it is human nature to be concerned about what others think of us and I do think that those who say they dont give a dam often only say it to try and show some bravado. However, I think if someone does take the time to publicly state they dont give a dam what others think, they are only doing to it try and hide what they are really feeling, and they do infact, give a dam.
My own view is that at the end of the day, only you have to live with what you are doing, or what you are not doing, and if you are comfortable then it should not matter what others think. I just wish I could convince myself that this is the case wink
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Again another reason to love you bouncy :thumbup:
We all have things that turn us on,things that work for us and things that dont,that is just being human,BUT,some seem to believe that the way they swing is the right way and others should be looked down on for being different.
i know i can be a total slut,i enjoy it and hurts no one,to some it seems this makes me a person without truth is that my moral code is concerned with far more important things than sex,stuff like causing no harm to another human being,caring for others,treating everyone as an equal .The big things that genuinly matter.
When it comes down to it though Bouncy we both know that the good people ,the ones who enhance our lives dont judge and do not have double standards,so feck the rest! lol

Watching my wife behave as a total slut is one of the things that really turns me on dunno
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This is going to sound really odd, but I would love to be one of those people who could just have sex with anyone I wanted to, be totally open about it and just get on and do it, but I cant and I dont think I ever could. Also, I try not judge anyone who does this and say good luck to them if that is what they want and they are comfortable with themselves doing it.
However, I do find that I do judge myself, and probably more harshly than others would necesarily judge me (well, I hope so). It is only this last 12 months that I have started to be more open about what I want and what I get up to. I dont mean graphic details or telling others the details of people who I have met but I mean being less embarrassed about myself, my meets and my fantasies. Even as a swinger, I do not want others to think of me as 'easy' and that is total madness as it has nothing what so ever to do with anyone else, but I still even now, do worry to some extent what others think.
I think we are naturally judgemental and although we try not to be, we instinctively do it even if we dont want to. Also, I do think it is human nature to be concerned about what others think of us and I do think that those who say they dont give a dam often only say it to try and show some bravado. However, I think if someone does take the time to publicly state they dont give a dam what others think, they are only doing to it try and hide what they are really feeling, and they do infact, give a dam.
My own view is that at the end of the day, only you have to live with what you are doing, or what you are not doing, and if you are comfortable then it should not matter what others think. I just wish I could convince myself that this is the case wink

If I may be so bold... I think the phrase you're looking for here is "being more confident in myself" :wink:
kiss
What i find interesting is the way people are discussing their ability to choose here is quite different to how it is presented in other threads about choice. Noticeably about race or age or disability etc.
now do you have a different set of choice muscles at work for each type of decision? because it seems there are very different approaches to making a choice in the threads.
Which to me means that 'judgements' are far more sophisitcated than people want to believe. they may well be more disguised in the 'hotter' topics and restrained by pc language. but in this thread people are revealing themselves more openly. probably because they don't want to be unfairly or incorrectly judged.
judgement is relentless I'm afraid. It probably forms a large part of your brain activities whilst you sleep. unbeknownst to your concsious self you could well be revelling in making life and death decisions on the merest whim as you slumber through the night.
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Watching my wife behave as a total slut is one of the things that really turns me on

Ya dirty git. wink
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Watching my wife behave as a total slut is one of the things that really turns me on

Ya dirty git. wink
redface
Quote by Bluefish2009
Watching my wife behave as a total slut is one of the things that really turns me on

Ya dirty git. wink
redface
can we watch too sillyhwoar::rascal:
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Watching my wife behave as a total slut is one of the things that really turns me on

Ya dirty git. wink
redface
can we watch too sillyhwoar::rascal:
Forget about watching.. lol Can I join in .. ? lol
ya see its not judgements on a whole i am the first to say we cannot help making judgements it is human nature in fact you can find me saying as much a quite a few threads on here over the years my whole point was and still is surely as a swinging site we should be more open minded to the fact that shock horror people are having lots n lots of sex
ok example a couple contacted us recently that when i read their profile it said they only play bareback now my initial judgement was eewwww but yet i did not say as much in my reply as it is their choice and obviously they find enough peeps that wish to join in with them so good luck to um i say
you'll most likely say i'm wrong and i should of told um that they are disgusting for doing such things but how is that my right to do so is it not their right do make their own decissions of how they wish to swing just as it is my right to say thankyou for showing an interest in us but no thankyou its just not our bag
there is no need to be rude about such things we all make our own choices
i guess i always thought that being swingers we would all be much more open minded about it all but then i also guess you live n learn
we spent years trying for women to have the right even in the vanilla world to have more than one shag before marraige without bein called a slag yet here where we should be able to openly enjoy the fact we can shag like rabbits if we so desire to we are still gettin called slags
and may i just add that the friend i was talking about initially was not just fucking everything in sight she is in fact very fussy and choosey just being a hottie and a single gal she gets a lot to be fussy n choosey over and i say more power to her you go girlfriend
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>>>Said lots of stuff<<<

Think id agree with that for myself too. And though i understand why DG said "the phrase you're looking for here is being more confident in myself" I don't think thats always the case. I am confident for the most part in life and the choices I make but can be quite embarrassed about myself too. Two different things but i do understand the sentiment DG.
If its OK to be slutish, for example, then surely thats already being judgemental or else it wouldn't have a derogatory word/meaning. Otherwise people would just do what they do and there would be no such behaviour as sluttish.
Oh and for the record, I am always questioning myself why i love watching my wife fu*k other people ans conversely she wonders why she enjoys it and why i as her partner accept what she does. I guess its an eternal debate between us though we don't question our enjoyment of it and accept how each other feels.
Just like to add though. sometimes a really good hug and a kind word from or to a partner can work wonders in the occasional moment of insecurity.