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I know the forums are always good for answering a question, and always seems to be someone around to help.
The question is, we are using a sage system for accounting purposes and are looking to change over to quick books to increase clients.
What we would like to know is there anyone around that has knowledge of both and what are the key differences?
I know it is a bit of a selective field, but I am sure someone might know something.
Thanks in advanace
Minx
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I know the forums are always good for answering a question, and always seems to be someone around to help.
The question is, we are using a sage system for accounting purposes and are looking to change over to quick books to increase clients.
What we would like to know is there anyone around that has knowledge of both and what are the key differences?
I know it is a bit of a selective field, but I am sure someone might know something.
Thanks in advanace
Minx

Is this the reason for considering changing your software? What aspect of Sage is not delivering on what your needs are?
Quote by GnV
I know the forums are always good for answering a question, and always seems to be someone around to help.
The question is, we are using a sage system for accounting purposes and are looking to change over to quick books to increase clients.
What we would like to know is there anyone around that has knowledge of both and what are the key differences?
I know it is a bit of a selective field, but I am sure someone might know something.
Thanks in advanace
Minx

Is this the reason for considering changing your software? What aspect of Sage is not delivering on what your needs are?
Yes that is the only reason as we have an old version of sage and to upgrade to increase clients sage price in over £1000, but it seems to get the same deal with the same functions on "quick books" the price is a quarter of the sage deal. So we were just wondering do you get the same benifits and fuctions.
Im quite sure sage do an upgrade package to the latest version at about £400
i`ll check with my book keeper on monday and let you know where we got ours from
if this helps
There is also to consider from the same software house.
Dont put the horse before the cart. Decide what you need then ask whether the software fulfills that need.
Hope you are both well minxy. xx
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I know the forums are always good for answering a question, and always seems to be someone around to help.
The question is, we are using a sage system for accounting purposes and are looking to change over to quick books to increase clients.
What we would like to know is there anyone around that has knowledge of both and what are the key differences?
I know it is a bit of a selective field, but I am sure someone might know something.
Thanks in advanace
Minx

Is this the reason for considering changing your software? What aspect of Sage is not delivering on what your needs are?
Yes that is the only reason as we have an old version of sage and to upgrade to increase clients sage price in over £1000, but it seems to get the same deal with the same functions on "quick books" the price is a quarter of the sage deal. So we were just wondering do you get the same benifits and fuctions.
I'll declare an interest, because I've contracted for Sage and some of my mates still work there.
However, I'll say this. As well as the feature set, you should assess the total cost of ownership, including support costs and the level of support provided. My view was always that Sage support was market leading - but then I would say that, given what I did....
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Dont put the horse before the cart. Decide what you need then ask whether the software fulfills that need.
Hope you are both well minxy. xx

:thumbup:
After spending 20 odd years in the industry and personally writing (and often in later times specifying) many many many utilities and routines around accounting systems to provide the functionality not intended by the accounting system software houses, deciding what you need IS the number one factor.
Further, in all of my experience NEVER EVER computerise a crap paper system in the hope it will work - I can assure you, IT WON'T - ever!!!
That advice will be £25 please...
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Yes that is the only reason as we have an old version of sage and to upgrade to increase clients sage price in over £1000, but it seems to get the same deal with the same functions on "quick books" the price is a quarter of the sage deal. So we were just wondering do you get the same benifits and fuctions.

Can't comment on QuickBooks, but what version of Sage are you currently running, and what are you running it on?
We upgraded from v11 to v15 a year or so ago, and found the new version near unusable on our hardware. We have subsequently had to buy a spanking new server, upgrade the network from 100 meg to 1 gig, and replace two of five desktop machines just so we can get anything like useable performance out of it.
It now works lovely, and performance issues notwithstanding it's bloody good software, but the real cost of the upgrade probably ran into thousands.
N x x x ;)
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Yes that is the only reason as we have an old version of sage and to upgrade to increase clients sage price in over £1000, but it seems to get the same deal with the same functions on "quick books" the price is a quarter of the sage deal. So we were just wondering do you get the same benifits and fuctions.

Can't comment on QuickBooks, but what version of Sage are you currently running, and what are you running it on?
We upgraded from v11 to v15 a year or so ago, and found the new version near unusable on our hardware. We have subsequently had to buy a spanking new server, upgrade the network from 100 meg to 1 gig, and replace two of five desktop machines just so we can get anything like useable performance out of it.
It now works lovely, and performance issues notwithstanding it's bloody good software, but the real cost of the upgrade probably ran into thousands.
N x x x ;)
A good example of the total cost of ownership problem...
Bit late to the party but I'm currently working with Sage and have used Quickbooks also in the past. Personal preference is for Quickbooks, reason being I found it much more user friendly and most importantly able to get more and more detailed info out of the system more easily and quickly. Having said that I'm not officially 'trained' on Sage and was not involved in the set up of any of the files I use so there may have been errors made in that respect which makes it more frustrating for me to use. I would say that Quickbooks is a more basic package whereas Sage has a greater scope with an extensive report writing ability ... if you know how to use it. I think Quickbooks was originally intended for a sole trader with minimal accounting knowledge (although this may well have changed over the years) whereas Sage is regarded as a 'proper accountants' package. I used to work with a guy who really disliked Quickbooks because of this. Feel free to pm me if you want more detail.
Thanks for the help and advice, after much deliberation we opted to change to Quickbooks. I personally find it much more user friendly and quicker to set up and work with than Sage, myself coming from a non accounting background I have had no problems so far in understanding the system. Hubby however who has accounting background is still a little cynical as to the detail when needing reports for quarterly management accounting purposes. But we have only completed out first monthly VAT returns thus far, and have found no problems with quickness and easy.