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Not much pisses me off...
I'm black, my wife is oriental...but over zelious "political correctness" is ruining this country...
IMHO the mod who locked the Labrador thread acted as a censor of free speach.
As an "ethnic minoity" I saw nothing offensive or racist in the joke....maybe some of my "brother and sisters" need to lighten up.
Have a good life peeps.
Bye
I don't agree that the mod acted as a censor. I think the mod acted to stop any disagreements about race. I think that Leon n Fran overreacted somewhat (they maybe need to lighten up) and the mod in question prevented them from the possible abuse they'd get because their comments were a little silly - it was a joke about DOGS FFS
Orgasminator
As another ethnic minority myself, I didn't see what was so offensive about that joke. If anything, it was annoying to see the thread locked. The way I saw it, it was another example of political correctness going mad.
PC was a concept that was meant to help people of different backgrounds fit in. But now it seems to cause more problems. Also when there is a real case of racism, it desensitises people. Whoever was offended by that joke should think about the real racism around, rather than getting upset at a joke which was most likely just that- a light-hearted joke. Personally I found it to be quit funny.
PC was a concept that was meant to help people of different backgrounds fit in. But now it seems to cause more problems. Also when there is a real case of racism, it desensitises people. Whoever was offended by that joke should think about the real racism around, rather than getting upset at a joke which was most likely just that- a light-hearted joke. Personally I found it to be quit funny.
Sex God
Quote by veejay
As another ethnic minority myself, I didn't see what was so offensive about that joke. If anything, it was annoying to see the thread locked. The way I saw it, it was another example of political correctness going mad.
PC was a concept that was meant to help people of different backgrounds fit in. But now it seems to cause more problems. Also when there is a real case of racism, it desensitises people. Whoever was offended by that joke should think about the real racism around, rather than getting upset at a joke which was most likely just that- a light-hearted joke. Personally I found it to be quit funny.
It was a funny joke. The people who were upset obviously took exception to the fact that dog colours were mentioned
and commented on that. The mod who locked it, most likely did so to avoid any ensuing ridicule of the objectors. I don't think they did it to be politically correct with regard to the joke. Orgasminator
Quote by freckledbird
As another ethnic minority myself, I didn't see what was so offensive about that joke. If anything, it was annoying to see the thread locked. The way I saw it, it was another example of political correctness going mad.
PC was a concept that was meant to help people of different backgrounds fit in. But now it seems to cause more problems. Also when there is a real case of racism, it desensitises people. Whoever was offended by that joke should think about the real racism around, rather than getting upset at a joke which was most likely just that- a light-hearted joke. Personally I found it to be quit funny.
It was a funny joke. The people who were upset obviously took exception to the fact that dog colours were mentioned
and commented on that. The mod who locked it, most likely did so to avoid any ensuing ridicule of the objectors. I don't think they did it to be politically correct with regard to the joke.I'm not having a go at whichever mod locked the thread here, they have a difficult job as it is.. Maybe the people who took offence have personal experiences which make them think there was racist tones in the joke?
Whatever they said, I'd like to think that the majority of people on this forum would have tried to re-assure or explain things to them, as opposed to ridiculing them. Or am I being naive?
Sex God
Quote by freckledbird
Not much pisses me off...
I'm black, my wife is oriental...but over zelious "political correctness" is ruining this country...
IMHO the mod who locked the Labrador thread acted as a censor of free speach.
As an "ethnic minoity" I saw nothing offensive or racist in the joke....maybe some of my "brother and sisters" need to lighten up.
Have a good life peeps.
Bye
I don't agree that the mod acted as a censor. I think the mod acted to stop any disagreements about race. I think that Leon n Fran overreacted somewhat (they maybe need to lighten up) and the mod in question prevented them from the possible abuse they'd get because their comments were a little silly - it was a joke about DOGS FFS
Interesting point. Is it possible to remove the offending post rather than locking the thread. Can understand that is difficult when things have started and the 'discussion' is underway so to speak! Actually, the more I think about this one - I think this would make the Mods life more difficult - so perhaps locking it was the best thing.
Right that's it I'm changing me name to 'Goin' 'round in Circles'!!
If we delete threads then people post new threads asking why their thread was deleted!
If we lock threads then people post new threads asking why their thread was deleted!
If we leave threads alone then people post new threads objecting to a thread not being locked or deleted!!
If we act at all people complain.
If we sit back and watch people complain.
No win situation for us folks and it's not helped by you folks debating what we should do all the frigging time.
:x
If we lock threads then people post new threads asking why their thread was deleted!
If we leave threads alone then people post new threads objecting to a thread not being locked or deleted!!
If we act at all people complain.
If we sit back and watch people complain.
No win situation for us folks and it's not helped by you folks debating what we should do all the frigging time.
:x 
Sex God
Looks to me like the mods are in a no-win situation here. There IS political correctness on these boards, lots of it, and my contempt for it is probably obvious, but why blame the mods?
We've just seen the race card played three times in as many days, which hadn't happened before, but in the year that I've been here every other 'card' has been played on a regular basis by those who enjoy portraying themselves as hard done by and strive to appear more downtrodden than anyone else. And it's not the mods who are doing it.
You can hardly say anything to anyone around here without being accused of being anti-this, phobic-that, blah blah blah. If you're straight you're homophobic, if you wear normal clothes you're anti-tranny, if you prefer your own age group you're discriminating against younger people, if you choose not to take part in the competition to be seen as the most extreme you're a bigoted "vanilla" lesser being, and if, horror of horrors, you happen to be in good health, you are the very incarnation of evil.
Everyone wants an "edge", some reason to deserve more pity than anyone else, and the ones who complain the loudest about prejudice are invariably the most prejudiced. If I disagree with someone who happens to be gay, then I am homophobic regardless of what the disagreement was about. If I don't see eye to eye with someone who happens to be fat I am sizeist even though what we argued about was nothing to do with size. And so on ad nauseum.
Now, put yourself in the position of someone who is expected to keep the forum running smoothly, and who gets it in the neck from all directions when it doesn't - what would you do? Someone says something, someone else takes offence (or more likely pretends to take offence to get some sympathy or score some PC points) and before you know it, it's another flame war about absolutely nothing.
So what if the politically correct idiot who started the row sees it as a victory when it gets locked? It's not that the politically correct are "censoring" people, the mods are trying to stop them disrupting the board by instigating pointless rows.
Fair's fair, some of the mods have prejudices of their own, and whether a comment is "acceptable" depends to a large extent on who said it, but you know what they say about people in glass houses. Mostly the mods take pre-emptive action and lock threads that are obviously going nowhere and are likely to descend into personal wars. If you want to see that as politically correct censorship, fine, you're welcome to your opinion, but it's just as likely to be an attempt to stop the politically correct causing more aggro.
AND, they're not paid for what they do, and we don't pay for the service they provide, so instead of blaming the mods for trying to stop flame wars when we are the ones who put them in that position, wouldn't it be smarter to just accept the fact that the decision has been made and let it go? You don't have to agree with the decision, but they're a stubborn lot and hassling them in the hope that they'll change it is just pissing in the wind.
I don't always agree with moderating decisions, but I'm sure I've got better things to do than complain about something I can't change.
We've just seen the race card played three times in as many days, which hadn't happened before, but in the year that I've been here every other 'card' has been played on a regular basis by those who enjoy portraying themselves as hard done by and strive to appear more downtrodden than anyone else. And it's not the mods who are doing it.
You can hardly say anything to anyone around here without being accused of being anti-this, phobic-that, blah blah blah. If you're straight you're homophobic, if you wear normal clothes you're anti-tranny, if you prefer your own age group you're discriminating against younger people, if you choose not to take part in the competition to be seen as the most extreme you're a bigoted "vanilla" lesser being, and if, horror of horrors, you happen to be in good health, you are the very incarnation of evil.
Everyone wants an "edge", some reason to deserve more pity than anyone else, and the ones who complain the loudest about prejudice are invariably the most prejudiced. If I disagree with someone who happens to be gay, then I am homophobic regardless of what the disagreement was about. If I don't see eye to eye with someone who happens to be fat I am sizeist even though what we argued about was nothing to do with size. And so on ad nauseum.
Now, put yourself in the position of someone who is expected to keep the forum running smoothly, and who gets it in the neck from all directions when it doesn't - what would you do? Someone says something, someone else takes offence (or more likely pretends to take offence to get some sympathy or score some PC points) and before you know it, it's another flame war about absolutely nothing.
So what if the politically correct idiot who started the row sees it as a victory when it gets locked? It's not that the politically correct are "censoring" people, the mods are trying to stop them disrupting the board by instigating pointless rows.
Fair's fair, some of the mods have prejudices of their own, and whether a comment is "acceptable" depends to a large extent on who said it, but you know what they say about people in glass houses. Mostly the mods take pre-emptive action and lock threads that are obviously going nowhere and are likely to descend into personal wars. If you want to see that as politically correct censorship, fine, you're welcome to your opinion, but it's just as likely to be an attempt to stop the politically correct causing more aggro.
AND, they're not paid for what they do, and we don't pay for the service they provide, so instead of blaming the mods for trying to stop flame wars when we are the ones who put them in that position, wouldn't it be smarter to just accept the fact that the decision has been made and let it go? You don't have to agree with the decision, but they're a stubborn lot and hassling them in the hope that they'll change it is just pissing in the wind.
I don't always agree with moderating decisions, but I'm sure I've got better things to do than complain about something I can't change.
Sex God
Quote by VenusnMars
/sits here thinking that there is going to be a lot of :doh: if the member who complained was just trying to be ironic..........
Venusxxx
Not really. OK, if it was irony it went over my head, but I don't think anyone's really complaining about the thread itself and what was said in it, so much as arguing about whether it should have been locked. The actual content of the thread has to some extent become incidental IMO.
Oh dear. 
The comment we made about finding the dog joke racist and offensive was firmly tongue in cheek and was sending up political correctness gone mad. I suppose we didnt make that very clear in the post but I thought it was such a ridiculous idea that someone would be offended by the mentioning of different coloured dogs in a joke that no one would take it seriously. I was wrong. REAL racism is a very serious matter but perhaps we do indeed need to lighten up...
But then again, the selective breeding programme used for dogs which was also hinted at in the same joke, where the yellow and brown Labradors where mutilated in a manner which would prevent them from spreading their seed was just one small step away from Hitlers vision of an Aryan master race, dont you think?
Or am I just being PARANOID???
:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove:
P.S. To avoid any further confusion the last comment about selective breeding was NOT meant to be taken seriously. Nor am I making light of the atrocities which Hitler inflicted on the world.
P.P.S. Anyone fancy a shag???
The comment we made about finding the dog joke racist and offensive was firmly tongue in cheek and was sending up political correctness gone mad. I suppose we didnt make that very clear in the post but I thought it was such a ridiculous idea that someone would be offended by the mentioning of different coloured dogs in a joke that no one would take it seriously. I was wrong. REAL racism is a very serious matter but perhaps we do indeed need to lighten up...
But then again, the selective breeding programme used for dogs which was also hinted at in the same joke, where the yellow and brown Labradors where mutilated in a manner which would prevent them from spreading their seed was just one small step away from Hitlers vision of an Aryan master race, dont you think?
Or am I just being PARANOID???
:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove:
P.S. To avoid any further confusion the last comment about selective breeding was NOT meant to be taken seriously. Nor am I making light of the atrocities which Hitler inflicted on the world.
P.P.S. Anyone fancy a shag???
Quote by Leon'n'Fran
Oh dear.
The comment we made about finding the dog joke racist and offensive was firmly tongue in cheek and was sending up political correctness gone mad. I suppose we didnt make that very clear in the post but I thought it was such a ridiculous idea that someone would be offended by the mentioning of different coloured dogs in a joke that no one would take it seriously. I was wrong. REAL racism is a very serious matter but perhaps we do indeed need to lighten up...
But then again, the selective breeding programme used for dogs which was also hinted at in the same joke, where the yellow and brown Labradors where mutilated in a manner which would prevent them from spreading their seed was just one small step away from Hitlers vision of an Aryan master race, dont you think?
Or am I just being PARANOID???
:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove:
P.S. To avoid any further confusion the last comment about selective breeding was NOT meant to be taken seriously. Nor am I making light of the atrocities which Hitler inflicted on the world.
P.P.S. Anyone fancy a shag???
You are paranoid, also you have started a storm in a teacup that will have irritated the mods. Nothing personal here, not political correct or anything else but please think before you post like that, didn't look tongue in cheek when I read your comments...
Give the mods a break and don't go off complaining about stuff that you don't really care about, if you joking say so, and avoid the confusion.
Quote by tallnhairy
Oh dear.
The comment we made about finding the dog joke racist and offensive was firmly tongue in cheek and was sending up political correctness gone mad. I suppose we didnt make that very clear in the post but I thought it was such a ridiculous idea that someone would be offended by the mentioning of different coloured dogs in a joke that no one would take it seriously. I was wrong. REAL racism is a very serious matter but perhaps we do indeed need to lighten up...
But then again, the selective breeding programme used for dogs which was also hinted at in the same joke, where the yellow and brown Labradors where mutilated in a manner which would prevent them from spreading their seed was just one small step away from Hitlers vision of an Aryan master race, dont you think?
Or am I just being PARANOID???
:laughabove: :laughabove: :laughabove:
P.S. To avoid any further confusion the last comment about selective breeding was NOT meant to be taken seriously. Nor am I making light of the atrocities which Hitler inflicted on the world.
P.P.S. Anyone fancy a shag???
You are paranoid, also you have started a storm in a teacup that will have irritated the mods. Nothing personal here, not political correct or anything else but please think before you post like that, didn't look tongue in cheek when I read your comments...
Give the mods a break and don't go off complaining about stuff that you don't really care about, if you joking say so, and avoid the confusion.
I agree didn't look tongue in cheek to me.....are you sure your not saying this now to save face.....so not to look silly about it all....next time you might be offended by another remark on here and when you complain ....who will believe you!
Sex God
Dave I've just sent a pm to someone saying exactly the same thing.
Quote by Leon'n'Fran
The comment we made about finding the dog joke racist and offensive was firmly tongue in cheek and was sending up political correctness gone mad. I suppose we didnt make that very clear in the post but I thought it was such a ridiculous idea that someone would be offended by the mentioning of different coloured dogs in a joke that no one would take it seriously.
Lots of people make similar comments which are intended to be taken humourously, but this is usually made clear by the addition of a few emoticons, particularly the "
". That would have helped here.
Quote by Leon'n'Fran
I thought it was such a ridiculous idea that someone would be offended by the mentioning of different coloured dogs in a joke that no one would take it seriously. I was wrong. REAL racism is a very serious matter but perhaps we do indeed need to lighten up...
Thought that needed saying again cos some people dont seem to get it
Quote by Leon'n'Fran
I thought it was such a ridiculous idea that someone would be offended by the mentioning of different coloured dogs in a joke that no one would take it seriously. I was wrong. REAL racism is a very serious matter but perhaps we do indeed need to lighten up...
Thought that needed saying again cos some people dont seem to get it
I get it!! But not often enough!!
Sorry but this thread has got way too serious, lightent up you guys!!
Sex God
so let me get this all correct...this thread started over a thread that was locked.... that someone who took offence to ...but didn't really.... 
:? :? and waited this long to tell us that it was in fact a big old joke....
i feel sorry for the mods because they get enough flak as it is....how were they suppose to know that it wasn't real.... because i read it and i couldn't tell....
so you in fact you made the situation worse for not only the mods and everyone that does have a legitimate beef with anything in future......
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:? :? and waited this long to tell us that it was in fact a big old joke....i feel sorry for the mods because they get enough flak as it is....how were they suppose to know that it wasn't real.... because i read it and i couldn't tell....
so you in fact you made the situation worse for not only the mods and everyone that does have a legitimate beef with anything in future......
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Sex God
I'm breaking a promise here 'cos I said I wouldn't post on this one again to someone. But I just want to clarify one thing after Ice's contribution.
I started the serious bit (apart from the first post). Reading Ice's comments about not blaming the mods - I was taken aback because I was genuinely not thinking of the mods when I made my first comments. I now see that blasian cpl did accuse the mods, which did not really register with me at the time and was the furthest thing from my mind. My comments were aimed the original complaint. I can see that my observation might have been taken to be criticsim of the mods and I guess I might admit to thinking that it was pandering to a minority view but then again I can see that locking it was for the greater good.
Being a mod here is a thankless and vital task and quite frankly they can do what they like for they set the tone and standards of the site - their prerogative no questions - if you don't like it you know what to do. You've only to remind yourself of what a fantastic place this is to get a take on what a good job they do. This is not sycophancy - it is fact!
So public apology over!
I started the serious bit (apart from the first post). Reading Ice's comments about not blaming the mods - I was taken aback because I was genuinely not thinking of the mods when I made my first comments. I now see that blasian cpl did accuse the mods, which did not really register with me at the time and was the furthest thing from my mind. My comments were aimed the original complaint. I can see that my observation might have been taken to be criticsim of the mods and I guess I might admit to thinking that it was pandering to a minority view but then again I can see that locking it was for the greater good.
Being a mod here is a thankless and vital task and quite frankly they can do what they like for they set the tone and standards of the site - their prerogative no questions - if you don't like it you know what to do. You've only to remind yourself of what a fantastic place this is to get a take on what a good job they do. This is not sycophancy - it is fact!
So public apology over!
Quote by Leon'n'Fran
I thought it was such a ridiculous idea that someone would be offended by the mentioning of different coloured dogs in a joke that no one would take it seriously. I was wrong. REAL racism is a very serious matter but perhaps we do indeed need to lighten up...
Thought that needed saying again cos some people dont seem to get it
Would you like a shovel??
Peeps you digging a bigger hole im my opinion, as fabio said you have done nothing but muddied the waters. Take a leaf out of Tunes book and apologise rather than ragging everyone else for not getting your joke...
I hope the couple who started this thread flounce properly and come back, don't know them personally but it is even more ironic that the thing that sparked their anger was a badly worded 'joke'
i·ro·ny Audio pronunciation of "irony" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies
1.
1. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
2. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
3. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.
n. pl. i·ro·nies
1.
1. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
2. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
3. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.
Quote by Leon'n'Fran
i·ro·ny Audio pronunciation of "irony" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (r-n, r-)
n. pl. i·ro·nies
1.
1. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
2. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
3. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.
I believe that you have fully understood why people have been confused and that the use of an emoticon was unnecessary!
