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Life Begins - ITV last night 2/10/06

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Did anyone see this programme last night? The main characters Maggie and Phil have a swinging couple living next door to them, Mia and Nick. In last night's epsiode, Nick meets up with the wife of a couple they had sex with at a suggests to Nick that the pair of them meet up for regular sessions at a hotel. He tells Mia and she very obviously is not happy about it this. End of programme.
So what next then? Mia and Nick split up (?) and we have the perfect moral tale for mass consumption that swinging is bad for relationships. Bearing in mind that most studies show that swinging couples tend to have better communication and understanding of each other than most couples, the unlikely scenario presented seems like propaganda.
Has anyone ever been contacted by the spouse of a couple in this way? If they did what was/would be your reaction? At the risk of sounding absurd, we find swingers to be a fairly moral lot , so how often would this happen?
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So what next then? Mia and Nick split up (?) and we have the perfect moral tale for mass consumption that swinging is bad for relationships.

I thought that when I saw it last night. All was going well until that point and its started to piss me off now confused
Yes we thought the same. The whole scene was treated as the guy just wanting to get his rocks off regardless of any feelings his partner had. Next weeks trialer was obviously heading towards more of the same insensitive action on the part of the guy. I dont know any swingers like this...it would inevitably end up in the relationship breaking down. Swinging is a trust thing and works because of the strength of the relationship...this programme poytrayed it as a decietful and unfaithful life-style...tho obviously we've all been contacted by males in relationships and their partners not knowing...most cpls in to swinging do so with ground rules and boundries which are respected and mutually agreed...not like this programme that had the male ego as the dominating charactor and the lady as the submissive dumb partner sat at home accepting what ever abuse was hurled her way.
Oli...yes am a man ;)
Dawny...I dont know where you are from but you have great nipples! Dont mean to be rude saying that..they are just my thing lol
Thank you :giggle:
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Dawny...I dont know where you are from but you have great nipples!

I always get a smackbottom when I say things like that to Dawn...... but then again that's why I do it! :rascal:
You have lovely breasts Dawn! :P
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On a more serious note I am constantly annoyed by the medias (tv/newspaper/mags etc) negative portrayal of swingers and swinging.
I think one of my erudite friends should write a screen-play or book. biggrin
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Dawny...I dont know where you are from but you have great nipples!

I always get a smackbottom when I say things like that to Dawn...... but then again that's why I do it! :rascal:
You have lovely breasts Dawn! :P
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:smackbottom::smackbottom::smackbottom:
Leave my boobies out of this :giggle:
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Dawny...I dont know where you are from but you have great nipples!

I always get a smackbottom when I say things like that to Dawn...... but then again that's why I do it! :rascal:
You have lovely breasts Dawn! :P
bolt

:smackbottom::smackbottom::smackbottom:
Leave my boobies out of this :giggle:
yeah, leave her boobies out of this, there are better places for them, like in my hands
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Dawny...I dont know where you are from but you have great nipples! Dont mean to be rude saying that..they are just my thing lol

nice ass :twisted:
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yeah, leave her boobies out of this, there are better places for them, like in my hands

Maybe we have something else to add to the list of things I owe you Mr Essex dunno :giggle:
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Yes we thought the same. The whole scene was treated as the guy just wanting to get his rocks off regardless of any feelings his partner had. Next weeks trialer was obviously heading towards more of the same insensitive action on the part of the guy. I dont know any swingers like this...it would inevitably end up in the relationship breaking down. Swinging is a trust thing and works because of the strength of the relationship...this programme poytrayed it as a decietful and unfaithful life-style...tho obviously we've all been contacted by males in relationships and their partners not knowing...most cpls in to swinging do so with ground rules and boundries which are respected and mutually agreed...not like this programme that had the male ego as the dominating charactor and the lady as the submissive dumb partner sat at home accepting what ever abuse was hurled her way.
Oli...yes am a man ;)

I didn't see it- but that is the usual way it goes and yes, it hacks me off too. The same thing with anything that touches on prostitution- theyre all unwashed junkies being controlled by a male.
However- have to say that I have known couples where one partner (the woman, although I daresay it happens the other way around too) is just doing it to please the other.
In fact, on saturday night out of 40 couples at a party, whilst most were obviously keen a few women stood out as just "performing" and going through the motions. One guy in particular was continually pushing his wife to do things she didn't want to- to the point where my heart bled for her, poor cow looked close to tears
:cry:
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yeah, leave her boobies out of this, there are better places for them, like in my hands

Maybe we have something else to add to the list of things I owe you Mr Essex dunno :giggle:
ooh, i didnt know there was a list, this sounds promising ;)
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yeah, leave her boobies out of this, there are better places for them, like in my hands

Maybe we have something else to add to the list of things I owe you Mr Essex dunno :giggle:
ooh, i didnt know there was a list, this sounds promising ;)
I'm making one now :small-print: :giggle:
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yeah, leave her boobies out of this, there are better places for them, like in my hands

Maybe we have something else to add to the list of things I owe you Mr Essex dunno :giggle:
ooh, i didnt know there was a list, this sounds promising ;)
I'm making one now :small-print: :giggle:
ooh, this i gotta see
Ok, to stay on subject (sorry folks).
I have actually been approached by both the husband and wife AND the husband alone to see if I would play with them by myself - this is after several meets with them as two couples.
I was totally gobsmacked, declined the offers and told hubby all about it. After he calmed down and promised me faithfully he wasn't going to go around and knock their blocks off, we made it clear to them that we wouldn't meet them again. It would have been all too easy to lose it and shout and scream, but we were calm, polite and told them how disappointed we were that they had tried to compromise what we thought was a great friendship as much as anything else.....
Ok, back off topic........can I just say that they are rather nice nipples Dawn.............
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Ok, back off topic........can I just say that they are rather nice nipples Dawn.............

rotflmao:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
I can see me having an avatar change redface
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Ok, back off topic........can I just say that they are rather nice nipples Dawn.............

rotflmao:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
I can see me having an avatar change redface
NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Well if you change it to a bum shot I won't mind. innocent
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NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Well if you change it to a bum shot I won't mind. innocent

Kiss you really are kidding yourself if you think I could get my fat arse in an avatar shot :lol2:
I agree that Swinging is portrayed as "the male pressuring the female into whatever HE wants to do" when in fact it is nothing like that if Swinging is done properly...
In my mind, Swinging is about complete open-ness, so BOTH parts of the couple tell each other everything and set boundaries as to what they will and won't do...
In Life Begins...they had obviously set the boundary that sex was fine at Parties..and now the guy wants to cross that line by meeting up with someone outside of a Party situation.....the Wife just pretty much sits there in silence when what she should have done was tell him that it was not acceptable as far as she was concerned...
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I agree that Swinging is portrayed as "the male pressuring the female into whatever HE wants to do" when in fact it is nothing like that if Swinging is done properly...
In my mind, Swinging is about complete open-ness, so BOTH parts of the couple tell each other everything and set boundaries as to what they will and won't do...
In Life Begins...they had obviously set the boundary that sex was fine at Parties..and now the guy wants to cross that line by meeting up with someone outside of a Party situation.....the Wife just pretty much sits there in silence when what she should have done was tell him that it was not acceptable as far as she was concerned...

Here here dreamer...
Cute red lines on that arse...
Dawn...keep the nipple avitar...in fact can you develop an interactive avitar for me to have a touch mmmmm :P
Dawnie! I hate your nipples!
They're perfect mad .
If mine weren't inverted they would stick out like a pair of wings.
Thank God for small mercies. Perhaps I was meant to be a Kiwi?
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Dawn...keep the nipple avitar...in fact can you develop an interactive avitar for me to have a touch mmmmm :P

rotflmao:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:
I would if I could, honest, but I don't think its possible dunno
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Dawnie! I hate your nipples!
They're perfect mad .

Sorry, I can't help it dunno
I'm sure yours are just as lovely in their own way kiss
That's the problem, Dawnie, they do go their own way sillyhwoar:
What you all have to remember is the people who write this stuff, have never proberly had first hand experience of swinging.
A gentle man I was speaking with only three weeks ago, about this subject, was going on about people throwing their car keys into a hat, to partner up, and also said "swingers play spin the bottle"!!! In nearly twenty years of swinging, I have never seen players throwing their keys into a hat, and I havnt played "spin the bottle" since I was at school! If I suggested throwing keys into a hat for my wife to partake, I think she would take great exception, and I would be sleeping on the settee for the next few weeks.
The writers of these programmes, get an idea and then let their imagination run wild, as already mentioned, prostitution, mail order brides, dogging, the list goes on and on.
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What you all have to remember is the people who write this stuff, have never proberly had first hand experience of swinging.
A gentle man I was speaking with only three weeks ago, about this subject, was going on about people throwing their car keys into a hat, to partner up, and also said "swingers play spin the bottle"!!! In nearly twenty years of swinging, I have never seen players throwing their keys into a hat, and I havnt played "spin the bottle" since I was at school! If I suggested throwing keys into a hat for my wife to partake, I think she would take great exception, and I would be sleeping on the settee for the next few weeks.
The writers of these programmes, get an idea and then let their imagination run wild, as already mentioned, prostitution, mail order brides, dogging, the list goes on and on.

I believe that they did use to throw keys into a "hat" in the 60s. Part of the thrill was that no one actually chose who they would go home to bed with. I assume they keys had name tags on them because there was no electronic door unlocking then. I think the greatest worry was who might get the Robin Reliant. lol
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What you all have to remember is the people who write this stuff, have never proberly had first hand experience of swinging.
A gentle man I was speaking with only three weeks ago, about this subject, was going on about people throwing their car keys into a hat, to partner up, and also said "swingers play spin the bottle"!!! In nearly twenty years of swinging, I have never seen players throwing their keys into a hat, and I havnt played "spin the bottle" since I was at school! If I suggested throwing keys into a hat for my wife to partake, I think she would take great exception, and I would be sleeping on the settee for the next few weeks.
The writers of these programmes, get an idea and then let their imagination run wild, as already mentioned, prostitution, mail order brides, dogging, the list goes on and on.

I believe that they did use to throw keys into a "hat" in the 60s. Part of the thrill was that no one actually chose who they would go home to bed with. I assume they keys had name tags on them because there was no electronic door unlocking then. I think the greatest worry was who might get the Robin Reliant. lol
Knowing my luck I'd end up with the guy who put his house keys in and arrived on the bus rolleyes
Never mind the "Robin Relient" just think in the sixties it could have been a Scoda!!!!!
now that would have been cause for divorce proceedings to take place.
redface surprisedops: :oops:
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Never mind the "Robin Relient" just think in the sixties it could have been a Scoda!!!!!
now that would have been cause for divorce proceedings to take place.
redface surprisedops: :oops:

You're wrong, Boofy, even in the sixties the Skoda owner would only be driving the Skoda as a consequence of divorce and thus would not have been invited to the "wife swapping" party. :cry: