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It's a case of being a bit of a NIMBY I suppose. As long as the club is not affecting me in anyway that I am not bothered.
However I can see the point of the residents, and irrespective of how well intentioned the place is, or whether any rules may or may nor have been broken in terms of sexual entertainment and alcohol licensing laws, the bottom line is I would not choose to live opposite a swingers club.
Some will agree and somee will not - but that is my view for what it's worth.
However I can see the point of the residents, and irrespective of how well intentioned the place is, or whether any rules may or may nor have been broken in terms of sexual entertainment and alcohol licensing laws, the bottom line is I would not choose to live opposite a swingers club.
Some will agree and somee will not - but that is my view for what it's worth.
Sex God
Quote by HimandHer
It's a case of being a bit of a NIMBY I suppose. As long as the club is not affecting me in anyway that I am not bothered.
However I can see the point of the residents, and irrespective of how well intentioned the place is, or whether any rules may or may nor have been broken in terms of sexual entertainment and alcohol licensing laws, the bottom line is I would not choose to live opposite a swingers club.
Some will agree and somee will not - but that is my view for what it's worth.
Ohh please do explain why? I would be more worried about living opposite a pub TBH.
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Ohh please do explain why? I would be more worried about living opposite a pub TBH.
There are a number of places I would not want to live opposite; a pub, a petrol station, a nuclear waste site, an explosives store and a swingers club.
In all of those cases I daresay the people who are responsible for the day to day running of them do all that is possible in the circumstances to ensure the safety and welfare of anyone around them.
I am not making any judgements about any of them, and I am not suggesting that a swingers club presents the same hazards as the reprocessing of nuclear fuel - but I would not want to live opposite any of them by choice. If you would then that's fine, I am not making any judgments on anyone whether they would or they would not.
Does that answer your question?
Warming the Bed
being a chorley resident and knowing the area very well, it must be pointed out that opposite the club is a carpark, and caravan showroom, next door is a car storage place.
no houses are next door or opposite! the street were the complaints are from is round the corner and the club isnt visible from there mill was run down for years with various business starting up then disapearing so a business that might actually last wont do any harm. its not as if people take there sexual activity onto the streets.
all this has acheived is making a quiet private operation into a well known one and may now attract the idiots!
no houses are next door or opposite! the street were the complaints are from is round the corner and the club isnt visible from there mill was run down for years with various business starting up then disapearing so a business that might actually last wont do any harm. its not as if people take there sexual activity onto the streets.
all this has acheived is making a quiet private operation into a well known one and may now attract the idiots!
Casanova
When I saw the name of the forum thread I thought it was relating to an article I saw in the local newspaper. I dunno these swingers making the news papers all the time he he he
Sex God
Quote by HimandHer
Ohh please do explain why? I would be more worried about living opposite a pub TBH.
There are a number of places I would not want to live opposite; a pub, a petrol station, a nuclear waste site, an explosives store and a swingers club.
In all of those cases I daresay the people who are responsible for the day to day running of them do all that is possible in the circumstances to ensure the safety and welfare of anyone around them.
I am not making any judgements about any of them, and I am not suggesting that a swingers club presents the same hazards as the reprocessing of nuclear fuel - but I would not want to live opposite any of them by choice. If you would then that's fine, I am not making any judgments on anyone whether they would or they would not.
Does that answer your question?
At a guess yo dont want to live next to a pub because there is a chance drunken fight may break out in the street and the other places you have listed all present a serious explosive risk or health threat. Whats your reason for not wanting to live opposite a swingers club? I am just intrigued as a member of a swingers site.
I would only have two problems with it. First its too close to my hose so I cant use it
and second due to the narrow minded views of others my house value may be lowered. Other than that I couldn't see an issue. Quote by tweeky
At a guess yo dont want to live next to a pub because there is a chance drunken fight may break out in the street and the other places you have listed all present a serious explosive risk or health threat. Whats your reason for not wanting to live opposite a swingers club? I am just intrigued as a member of a swingers site.
I would only have two problems with it. First its too close to my hose so I cant use it
If you are allowed to think that - then why am I not.
It does not matter what I think - pretty much about anything - I am wholly insignificant in the goings on of the world, and the world will still be turning when I am not here.
However "Swinging" and all that it entails is perceived as deviant, perverted, and not normal by a great many people, as I am sure you know.
Now... I don't care about what "a great many people" think - but I would care what the person thought who I was trying to sell my house to.
That is the fundamental reason - it lowers the tone (whether it actually does or not I have neither any evidence, nor idea - I would not buy a house next to one, because I suspect many people would think that it does and that is my point). Others may think differently and be tripping over their mortgage applications to get a loan, I personally would not.
Casanova
Why wouldn't you want to live next door to a swinging club? same reason I wouldn't live next door to a dance club (or pub for that matter) Drunk/Noisy/Excited people in and out at all hours... Simple, nothing against the stigma etc, yes if it was widly known, then I'm sure it would probably bring house prices down (same as a pub or industrial unit does), but let's be honest, most of us have been to a club, and being a T-Totaler I can say with absolute certaintly that most people that leave are not quiet or for that matter, appropriate in their leaving conversations (appropriate for a nice neighbourhood that is)
Simple as that, and even though people don't want to say the same thing, it's the reason few of us would volunteer to live next door.
Simple as that, and even though people don't want to say the same thing, it's the reason few of us would volunteer to live next door.
What may be of more concern is the growing association of swinging with such venues. Its not one that swingers wished upon themselves. Up until recent years swinging was home based or operated within private clubs; and rarely if ever caused any kind of public nuisance.
So I wonder when these things go wrong who the scapegoats are going to be?
So I wonder when these things go wrong who the scapegoats are going to be?
Sex God
Quote by HimandHer
At a guess yo dont want to live next to a pub because there is a chance drunken fight may break out in the street and the other places you have listed all present a serious explosive risk or health threat. Whats your reason for not wanting to live opposite a swingers club? I am just intrigued as a member of a swingers site.
I would only have two problems with it. First its too close to my hose so I cant use it
If you are allowed to think that - then why am I not.
It does not matter what I think - pretty much about anything - I am wholly insignificant in the goings on of the world, and the world will still be turning when I am not here.
However "Swinging" and all that it entails is perceived as deviant, perverted, and not normal by a great many people, as I am sure you know.
Now... I don't care about what "a great many people" think - but I would care what the person thought who I was trying to sell my house to.
That is the fundamental reason - it lowers the tone (whether it actually does or not I have neither any evidence, nor idea - I would not buy a house next to one, because I suspect many people would think that it does and that is my point). Others may think differently and be tripping over their mortgage applications to get a loan, I personally would not.
First I am not Mystic Meg so if you have a reason that you have not stated then I will not know what it is and thats ref the part in bold above :lol:
Your a swinger but your carrying on the nimby attitude, doesn't really help. As 95% of us like to keep anonymous I wouldn't be outside with a support banner but then I wouldn't object either. Its a crappy attitude for anyone to hold, Bert lives near to a swingers club I dont so my areas better than his
??: In fairness though I am a person who is pretty unbothered by my perceived status, I dont do the Smith and Jones thing. Quote by tweeky
Your a swinger but your carrying on the nimby attitude, doesn't really help.
Am I a swinger?... What is "a swinger?". There are lots of people who would fit the definition of a swinger who would not go to a "swinger's club". Similarly there are lots of single (unmarried or un-partnered) men who go to swinger's clubs - who by the generally accepted definition of "a swinger", do not fit the definition of a swinger... but who do frequent "swinger's clubs".
So on the first count you have not established that I am a swinger (which I may or may not be - depending on how you define it), and secondly my "nimby" attitude is representative of a great many people on this site, many of whom will pretend to not subscribe to it, perhaps because they feel the need to conform in order to be accepted.
I would suggest to you that most people would not voluntarily live next to a swinger's club, however it is defined.
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As 95% of us like to keep anonymous
Do you speak from some sort of authority on this statistic - or is it something else you have made up in order to support your point. Of course I am more than willing to stand corrected, please direct me to the Ipsos Mori Poll that outlines this overwhelming majority.
Quote by tweeky
I wouldn't be outside with a support banner but then I wouldn't object either.
So you have no opinion? You must be for or against it surely - if not then why are you making an issue of arguing the point with me. There are lots of things that I don't care about - I may make a comment, and if someone argues with me then I will defend my point. If however, I am not bothered what anyone else has to say then I won't make the point in the first place.
Where are you on this?
Quote by tweeky
Its a crappy attitude for anyone to hold,
Really... I mean... really is it a crappy attidude to hold. Is it "crap" not to want the tone of your neighbourhood lowered (... oh and before you get out of your pram, read what I have said about popular opinion - which you probably will not, so I will remind you that it is not what I personally think - it is what the general populous think and that is all that matters).
Just becuase I do not subscribe to your view - it does not mean thay my view is crap.
Quote by tweeky
Bert lives near to a swingers club I dont so my areas better than his
Basically that is it in a nutshell - if Bert does not believe that, then good for Bert and he can live there as long as he wants, I am not telling Bert what he should think... however, if Bert does believe that then he should move house... he will need to find someone to sell his house to, who wants to live next to a swinging club though.
Quote by tweeky
In fairness though I am a person who is pretty unbothered by my perceived status, I dont do the Smith and Jones thing.
In fairness though... you are clearly bothered (and if you are not then you should be). Otherwise any point you make can be summarily dismissed and you will have no comeback.
But it is not for me to tell you what you should think - I can tell you what I think, and that is that I am bothered about my peceived status, and that is why I am responding to your reponse. I do not agree with that which you have said, and I think I have illustrated my points clearly enough.
I would suggest to you that you are bothered about your perceived status - if you were not then you would simply not respond to this post... and I know that you will - if you do not then you will have clearly demonstrated that you either have nothing to say, or that which you have to say is not worth defending - so don't be a wet blanket, this is the internet and argument is the lifeblood of progress - say what you mean and stand by it.
Of course, you may not do so - in an attempt to prove a point - but please do not be put off by compromising your "perceived status" as I doubt that anyone is truly that moved by it.
The only closing comments I have are that I do not know what you mean about the Smith and Jones reference and that your wife has nice tits.
Sex God
Quote by HimandHer
Your a swinger but your carrying on the nimby attitude, doesn't really help.
Am I a swinger?... What is "a swinger?". There are lots of people who would fit the definition of a swinger who would not go to a "swinger's club". Similarly there are lots of single (unmarried or un-partnered) men who go to swinger's clubs - who by the generally accepted definition of "a swinger", do not fit the definition of a swinger... but who do frequent "swinger's clubs".
So on the first count you have not established that I am a swinger (which I may or may not be - depending on how you define it), and secondly my "nimby" attitude is representative of a great many people on this site, many of whom will pretend to not subscribe to it, perhaps because they feel the need to conform in order to be accepted.
I would suggest to you that most people would not voluntarily live next to a swinger's club, however it is defined.
Quote by tweeky
As 95% of us like to keep anonymous
Do you speak from some sort of authority on this statistic - or is it something else you have made up in order to support your point. Of course I am more than willing to stand corrected, please direct me to the Ipsos Mori Poll that outlines this overwhelming majority.
Quote by tweeky
I wouldn't be outside with a support banner but then I wouldn't object either.
So you have no opinion? You must be for or against it surely - if not then why are you making an issue of arguing the point with me. There are lots of things that I don't care about - I may make a comment, and if someone argues with me then I will defend my point. If however, I am not bothered what anyone else has to say then I won't make the point in the first place.
Where are you on this?
Quote by tweeky
Its a crappy attitude for anyone to hold,
Really... I mean... really is it a crappy attidude to hold. Is it "crap" not to want the tone of your neighbourhood lowered (... oh and before you get out of your pram, read what I have said about popular opinion - which you probably will not, so I will remind you that it is not what I personally think - it is what the general populous think and that is all that matters).
Just becuase I do not subscribe to your view - it does not mean thay my view is crap.
Quote by tweeky
Bert lives near to a swingers club I dont so my areas better than his
Basically that is it in a nutshell - if Bert does not believe that, then good for Bert and he can live there as long as he wants, I am not telling Bert what he should think... however, if Bert does believe that then he should move house... he will need to find someone to sell his house to, who wants to live next to a swinging club though.
Quote by tweeky
In fairness though I am a person who is pretty unbothered by my perceived status, I dont do the Smith and Jones thing.
In fairness though... you are clearly bothered (and if you are not then you should be). Otherwise any point you make can be summarily dismissed and you will have no comeback.
But it is not for me to tell you what you should think - I can tell you what I think, and that is that I am bothered about my peceived status, and that is why I am responding to your reponse. I do not agree with that which you have said, and I think I have illustrated my points clearly enough.
I would suggest to you that you are bothered about your perceived status - if you were not then you would simply not respond to this post... and I know that you will - if you do not then you will have clearly demonstrated that you either have nothing to say, or that which you have to say is not worth defending - so don't be a wet blanket, this is the internet and argument is the lifeblood of progress - say what you mean and stand by it.
Of course, you may not do so - in an attempt to prove a point - but please do not be put off by compromising your "perceived status" as I doubt that anyone is truly that moved by it.
The only closing comments I have are that I do not know what you mean about the Smith and Jones reference and that your wife has nice tits.
I read three paragraphs and gave up
I just got to the point where you again mentioned the fact that it lowers the tone of the neighborhood with which I disagree strongly. In fact just came back from Decadent nights last night sound very like the place in the articles above. Neighborhood looked fine to me didn't see any grumbling neighbors
As for the rest of it, sorry have stuff to do today even if I do type like a secretary on uppers. 