in the words of steve v
money talks........if it was you or me.. do you think we get let of?....
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Ah fuck it.....
AAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!
Did you all need a bloody invite to witness it personally?
AOL News:
Another juror said testimony about Jackson sleeping with boys made him believe Jackson probably was a molester, but it was not proved in this case.
"I feel that Michael Jackson probably has molested boys,'' Raymond Hultman said. "I cannot believe that... this man could sleep in the same bedroom for 365 straight days and not do something more than just watch television and eat popcorn.
"I mean, that doesn't make sense to me.
But that doesn't make him guilty of the charges that were presented in this case and that's where we had to make our decision.''
If a member of the jury can say this, why can't a member of this site?
Any answers for why someone who posted on this thread a comment that some people may find offensive but is still a worthy argument within a debate, has been banned !!!!! ... when said same person was allowed to be publicly abused and humiliated just days ago by another site member and that member was not banned????
If your face fits ... like I said all along.
BTW, I think Jackson is GUILTY, so shoot me!
I'm soo glad he's been proved innocent, i have been a huge fan of his since he had big hair and a wide nose LOL. The case would never have got to court, if it was Joe Bloggs from the street. Tom Sneddon was a man on a mission, looking to further his career on the back of the greatest entertainer the world has ever seen. People have been riding on his back for years looking for their own personal gain. Yes he's wierd, i myself am a father and there's no way i'd let my kids get in bed with anybody even if it s MJ. But this man is not a . As to those who say his career is over, i don't believe that for a second, purely because of his fan base, it's huge, so for as long he continues to make/sell music he will constantly reach No.1. Gone are the days when artists sell 20 million albums, Thriller has sold 60 million and counting, Bad sold 27 million and counting, Off The Wall has sold 20 million and counting, Dangerous has sold 25 million and counting. The fact is his back catallogue still out sells a lot of todays music so finished i think not! Will he gain new fans, well that's a different matter and only time will tell.
But today he is free man, i would say he needs help, whether or not he'll get it i s another matter.
Vinesy
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Ditto ditto ditto babe !!! brilliant post.........
I dont believe that any Mother who thinks their child had been abused .............would take money from the abuser and let it go..............(.there just isn't enough money in the world ! )................ I would take an axe from the garage and chop it off !!!!
That's why I believe he is innocent
would you let him babysit your 10 to 14 year old kids at his own house ?
NO REALLY !!! would you
thought not
blonde as usual i am right behind you on that one,,if i had kids and that happened the only money being spent would be on a grave stone
your loyal stalker
sxby
To MJ, in the words of Bob Dylan.....
Standing on the waters casting your bread
While the eyes of the idol with the iron head are glowing.
Distant ships sailing into the mist,
You were born with a snake in both of your fists while a hurricane was blowing.
Freedom just around the corner for you
But with the truth so far off, what good will it do?
Jokerman dance to the nightingale tune,
Bird fly high by the light of the moon,
Oh, oh, oh, Jokerman.
So swiftly the sun sets in the sky,
You rise up and say goodbye to no one.
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread,
Both of their futures, so full of dread, you don't show one.
Shedding off one more layer of skin,
Keeping one step ahead of the persecutor within.
Jokerman dance to the nightingale tune,
Bird fly high by the light of the moon,
Oh, oh, oh, Jokerman.
You're a man of the mountains, you can walk on the clouds,
Manipulator of crowds, you're a dream twister.
You're going to Sodom and Gomorrah
But what do you care? Ain't nobody there would want to marry your sister.
Friend to the martyr, a friend to the woman of shame,
You look into the fiery furnace, see the rich man without any name.
Jokerman dance to the nightingale tune,
Bird fly high by the light of the moon,
Oh, oh, oh, Jokerman.
Well, the Book of Leviticus and Deuteronomy,
The law of the jungle and the sea are your only teachers.
In the smoke of the twilight on a milk-white steed,
Michelangelo indeed could've carved out your features.
Resting in the fields, far from the turbulent space,
Half asleep near the stars with a small dog licking your face.
Jokerman dance to the nightingale tune,
Bird fly high by the light of the moon,
Oh. oh. oh. Jokerman.
Well, the rifleman's stalking the sick and the lame,
Preacherman seeks the same, who'll get there first is uncertain.
Nightsticks and water cannons, tear gas, padlocks,
Molotov cocktails and rocks behind every curtain,
False-hearted judges dying in the webs that they spin,
Only a matter of time 'til night comes steppin' in.
Jokerman dance to the nightingale tune,
Bird fly high by the light of the moon,
Oh, oh, oh, Jokerman.
It's a shadowy world, skies are slippery gray,
A woman just gave birth to a prince today and dressed him in scarlet.
He'll put the priest in his pocket, put the blade to the heat,
Take the motherless children off the street
And place them at the feet of a harlot.
Oh, Jokerman, you know what he wants,
Oh, Jokerman, you don't show any response.
Jokerman dance to the nightingale tune,
Bird fly high by the light of the moon,
Oh, oh, oh, Jokerman.
it dont matter what you think of michael jackson .love him or hate him the fact is the evedence against him was pathetic and no sane jury could convict him on anything given the so called evedence they were given.
Pleasure
almost anywhere else in america he would have been GUILTY
california dont do majority convictions must be 12-0 to get a verdict
Money motivates many people to do things other people may find abhorrent, so
..... yes, maybe if it looked like the parents would be fighting a losing battle .. against someone of such wealth, fame and social stature, then yes, maybe they would accept a reasonable settlement/pay-off as compensation and to avoid dragging their poor kid and the rest of the family through the courts, media etc.
Doesn't make him any the less guilty just cos he paid them off. In fact, I think it proves it more. If he knew he was innocent, why would he be buying people's silence?
guilty of what sxboy ????????? show me some good piece of evedence well any evedence ?????????? .lets get one thing strait here the fact is if this was a joe bloggs in the dock with no money and fame it would have never got to court .like i said before no evedence no convition
Jackson would never have been able to gain access to boys in the same way if he was not so wealthy and naïve. The case in 1993 set a precedent and was bound to be eventually abused by some unscrupulous mother who was quite willing to let their child be exposed to a “potential †in order to make an allegation whether any improprieties occurred or not.
“In 1993, Tom Sneddon was given the job of investigating claims made by another 13-year-old boy against Jackson. Sneddon clearly believed that he had enough to bring Jackson to trial and was angered when the singer settled with the boy and his parents for sums estimated at between $10m and $25m (£5.9 to £14.7 m).†– he cut his nose off to spite his face in this case.
good answer mark
but ive never been in trouble in my life
no smoke without fire
its just too un believable hes done nothing wrong
, I hate to hear 'The world we are in today...' Did someone change it when I wasn't looking? It is the same world, we just catch the buggers now. Still we have to see conspiracy everywhere. Each one we catch rather than making us feel more secure is reported in a way that makes us think 'how many more have we missed?' Its the half full or half empty glass of milk arguement. If the Police catch 50% more than last year is that because suddenly more people went off the rails, or the Police just did a good job? Does paranoia have to set in until we keep our kids under lock and key all the time to make them 'safe'?
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is it's hard enough for child abuse victims to come forward and tell someone in the first place.
