I have kept out of the debate part of this thread and promised myself I wouldn't comment but I find myself getting more and more annoyed with some of the comments on here.
Whether or not MJ is really guilty or not guilty is something we will never know. The jury found him NOT GUILTY.
Peoples opinion's are based on what they have read, seen or heard. Not one person knows MJ or his alleged victims, so how the fluck can anyone base a judgement on that.
A case of chinese whispers IMHO, which most people will have been on the end of at one time or another in their lives and its not right.
Slate me if you will, but as has been said on here already this thread has the ear markings of a lynch mob. I'm not directing my comments at any one post but at the thread and others like it all over the internet.
Kaz xx
We can't judge or condemn Michael for being abused as a child. That was not his fault.
This is part of the process of abuse. It is handed down and is one of lifes nasty legacies. There is sufficient evidence now to recognise that it becomes embedded in childhood development and may resurface when the child becomes an adult. Most of us were fortunate to have esacped that kind of inheritance.
The case was also discussed in the forum a few months ago, when the trial was set out. The overall response is about the same from most of the contributors to the thread. Some want to lynch him, some think he is innocent.
I think abuse should be considered as a complex crime. It is not enough to single out the ones who get caught. It involves multiple participants across generations with interrelated associations. So technically an offenders family would need to be cross examined. Highly complex and almost unmanageable.
I think Michael was straying dangerously close to his own experience as a child, he may have been trying to overcome a terrible temptation. He is not stupid. He knows he would be an easy target. So I don't believe he committed the act.
Remember Gary Glitter? Once the evidence was there he fessed up, did his time, made an exit and is now probably living out a fairly bleak life. So I think Michael has a better future ahead of him.
This is becoming far too emotive a discussion, especially for some people who I'm sorry to hear have personal experience of abuse. I'm now very, very uncomfortable discussing a subject that is so personal to some members and I would argue that the thread is not a constructive discussion because of it.
Some may wish to continue the baiting but I think it would be prudent if this were locked.
My final words on the situation, before I force myself to get my rear in gear for the day..
The trail was a criminal trail, and therefore the prosecution had to prove beyond any reasonable doubt that he was guilty. The jury said in a press conference that they gave, that they felt that this had not been done.. there were doubts remaining, and that they had no choice but to find him not guilty..
as one of them said.. "he dodged the bullet"
Surely the admission from his lawyers that hes not going to have kids sleeping over any more ..is a strange one for someone whos done no wrong ?
I can believe him getting off but not on the 'giving alcohol to minors charge' - i thought that was a certanty!!!
i must admit i havnt read the whole thread but wanna add my bit....if wacko jacko just loves kids, then how come he only lets boys in his bed and not little girls...his obviously got somthing going on, he cant keep hiding behind this 'i had no childhood, im peter pan' bollocks, his a grown man, plus loads of people missed out on there childhood and dont re-live it by invited children into there beds.
another thing that made me laugh was when they said 'and michel jacksom is free to return to neverland....NEVERLAND FOR FUCK SAKE....this guy is not only suspected of molesting little boys, but he lives in.....neverland.....he looks completely fucked up, he lives in neverland, if you ask me he is like the child catcher out of chitty chitty bang bang....he looks weird...like some sort of creation....i just think that years of being completely minted has left him totally deranged.
they also say that 'you will never find a batter father than jacko' ---are you fucking kidding me, his called one of his children 'blanket', dangled one out of a window, and makes them all walk around in gas masks.
MJ Guilty or not? Who really gives a flying F whether or not he is guilty the point is we have to live with the decision. I am sitting on the fence with regard to my opinion, but you can guarantee one thing he will be being watched so closely now that if he even farts in front of a kid he will be back in the dock again....
OK - I'm locking this one now. Think all that can be said has been said. If anyone feels strongly about this then PM me.
:P
