HI and welcome
I have always found the forum cafe open and honest, I dont always agree with some of the view but they are the views of other people and they are entitled to them.
There is also a great help community out there, if you get stuck over something teckkie, or need advise over something, normally someone will come along and answer your post and help you, albeit with their views but at least it gives you a different perceptive.
Have fun
ps dont ask Dambuster anything teckkie
:welcome:
Sam xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Middle Management and Middle Class are two entirely different things IMHO
Hi Tigermoth,
We're relatively new to the forum ourselves and have found people honest, friendly and really helpful. Even when you put your foot in it with posts any critism is constructive and good natured.
I am and have been a member of a number of forums ranging from Sports to Swinging and most of them have their little cliques and frown upon and sometimes make a point of ignoring new members . I have found this site to be totally friendly and open.
IMHO when reading text, even with emoticons, things can be misconstrued. My advice is enjoy and go with the flow
It makes no odds whether you are lower/middle/upper class...
None are immune from posting complete and utter shite from time to time..
Its pretty much a classless society in here on the whole as far as I can see anyway.
I'm a middle manager and working class .. whats the problem? to those above and those below me gimme a break i'm a newbie. To those in my line ... i'll kick arse lol :kick: well nuts anyway. Oh and another thing if you have never tried a TV... don't knock em :P
class divisions don't really exist any more like they used to, they're only important if ppl decide to let them be important, it's too easy to "change class" these days. Todays problems with social exclusion are radically different to the problems of class division half a century ago.
I'm a pleb, and a disinherited pleb at that; my gf (Ali) on the other hand is 100% sloane, posh school, posh degree, Tory activist, godfather was personally pissed-off at the Lords being kicked out, and brother-in-law who owns several yachts (one in the med, one in the carribean and one in the US)!
When it get's legalised, Ali's side'll be the ones paying for the wedding! lol
Em
As a relative 'noob' myself, I have no brief to defend or praise the forum and it's members. It/they aren't perfect; we all express ourselves less accurately than we might like from time to time, and we are all well capable of mis-interpreting something innocently meant. For instance, one person's honest opinion, expressed a little clumsily, can inadvertently offend a sensitive soul, specially when the two people do not know each other.
Occasionally I see comments that are the written equivalent of the writer looking down their nose no matter how charitably you read them. That is hardly unique on web forums! Overall, the forum seems basically welcoming but also a little guarded. I sense that some feel they have something good, and understandably would prefer not to have it trampled flat by a bunch of clumsy people they don't know anything about and who may not understand the culture. Who can blame them for that?
I don't think class has much to do with it. Almost no-one is genuinely working-class these days, not like a lot of our grandparents were. But that is a whole other debate.
Well I'm unashamedly middle class............ cos when I was at school I wasn't in the bottlom class cos I'm not a blonde, but I wasn't in the top class cos I wasn't a swat with pimples and glasses :grin:
I bloody hate the class system........we all have to shit and it all smells the same!!
One thing I've never understood about the class system is that all that seems to matter to most people is where you were born.
Like, if you were female and born on a council estate, that makes you a "good working class girl" even if you're a higly paid barister, spend your holidays in Tuscany, fork out for private tuition for your kids, and are married to the Prime Minister.
Surely it should be who you are, not who your parents were that matters?
And don't get me started about people with two Jaguars...
Most of the people I worked with in my last job were upper middle class, oxford or cambridge educated( even a couple of etonians)...... you wouldn't believe how well I fit in there with me north notts accent and ' me dad was a miner', think i knew i wouldn't be there long... and I was right lol
i think people are really trying to dissolve the whole class issues cause we are more diverse now and do not really talk about it, but deep down it still just that people are more friendly now, not necessarily necause they want to but because they have to be. i mean with all the human rights shiit flying all over the place, one has to be very careful what they say and whom they say it to. i do not think much into what class i am, but would probably fall in the working class, which would be the bottom one, and so would a lot of people if we were to really be honest and relate today's class situation and try to compare it to the original one, back when middle class was probably rich, but not as rich as the upper class.
