at this time of year god knows how kate and gerry mcann must be feeling with that little place still empty at the dining table on christmas day , my heart goes out to them ,i am from Leicester and close to rothley the mcanns home... and pass it regularly , and still the golden come home bands are still there and long they should be untill maddy is back ... this is a belated thread i should have done it long before christmas .My prayers are with them for a new year return of their precious daughter ,I have one so know in a small way how they must feel xx
steve xx
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my thoughts go out at christmas to madeleine mcann
Quote by travlinmanukok
at this time of year god knows how kate and gerry mcann must be feeling with that little place still empty at the dining table on christmas day , my heart goes out to them ,i am from Leicester and close to rothley the mcanns home... and pass it regularly , and still the golden come home bands are still there and long they should be untill maddy is back ... this is a belated thread i should have done it long before christmas .My prayers are with them for a new year return of their precious daughter ,I have one so know in a small way how they must feel xx as its just been pointed out to me i live close to rothley yes wigston is close not in the biblical sence as say 400 yards but within the same city as say 5 miles and not say plymouth ????? but I do pass by rothley allmost every day as en route to a customer in loughborough so to say close is I think justified . ????????????????? no wonder people dont post anymore in the forums ?
steve
steve xx
Sex God
with the greatest of respect...... it amazes me that madeline was singled out...I have my theories as to why, but that is another thread for another time
but there are tens of missing children out there, and all the attention that one case has gotten has turned me off....... sorry
my thoughts go out to all the families of missing children, not just that one case...
sean
but there are tens of missing children out there, and all the attention that one case has gotten has turned me off....... sorry
my thoughts go out to all the families of missing children, not just that one case...
sean
Master of Sex
This is gonna sound cruel.
May i ask one important question?.
Why are we worring about Maddie McCann..when there are loads and loads of other missing people out there.
And i know what i am about to say will cause a few raised eyebrows.
I strongly believe that some sort of charges shouldhave been brought against the parents,
if they hadn't left maddie alone she wouldnt have gone missing,
And she would have been here to enjoy christmas.
May i ask one important question?.
Why are we worring about Maddie McCann..when there are loads and loads of other missing people out there.
And i know what i am about to say will cause a few raised eyebrows.
I strongly believe that some sort of charges shouldhave been brought against the parents,
if they hadn't left maddie alone she wouldnt have gone missing,
And she would have been here to enjoy christmas.
Sex God
Quote by fabio
with the greatest of respect...... it amazes me that madeline was singled out...
but there are tens of missing children out there, and all the attention that one case has gotten has turned me off....... sorry
my thoughts go out to all the families of missing children, not just that one case...
sean
and to the homeless, & to the elder on their own..... I could go on
Nice thought though to post
Quote by thevilliansleicester is one of our own ...end of
This is gonna sound cruel.
May i ask one important question?.
Why are we worring about Maddie McCann..when there are loads and loads of other missing people out there.
And i know what i am about to say will cause a few raised eyebrows.
I strongly believe that some sort of charges shouldhave been brought against the parents,
if they hadn't left maddie alone she wouldnt have gone missing,
And she would have been here to enjoy christmas.
thats why /
steve xx
Quote by travlinmanukokleicester is one of our own ...end of
This is gonna sound cruel.
May i ask one important question?.
Why are we worring about Maddie McCann..when there are loads and loads of other missing people out there.
And i know what i am about to say will cause a few raised eyebrows.
I strongly believe that some sort of charges shouldhave been brought against the parents,
if they hadn't left maddie alone she wouldnt have gone missing,
And she would have been here to enjoy christmas.
thats why /
steve xx
Ahhh, so the town they're from is part of the equation in working out how much we should miss someone.
Just so that I know for next time.
Sorry I am with the villians on this one if the Mcanns hadn't been professional people charges would have been brought against them for leaving 3 small children on their own, not saying that anyone deserves this but there are alot of missing children and my thoughts are with those families first and foremost.
Sam
Sam
Quote by Samndave
Sorry I am with the villians on this one if the Mcanns hadn't been professional people charges would have been brought against them for leaving 3 small children on their own, not saying that anyone deserves this but there are alot of missing children and my thoughts are with those families first and foremost.
Sam
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Our hearts go out to ALL missing children and their families this christmas
Sex God
In great respect to Travlinman, I don't think he was singling out them, he maybe just thinking about her at this moment in time. People are too quick to judge on here 
Don't forget its Xmas. I think about alot of things that has happened over the years at this time of year & bless that I am in a position to say Merry Xmas to people in a warm, safe place.
Only my opinion of course x
Don't forget its Xmas. I think about alot of things that has happened over the years at this time of year & bless that I am in a position to say Merry Xmas to people in a warm, safe place.
Only my opinion of course x
Quote by hisandhersthanks hisnhers for a decent constructive reply at last instead of crass comments ? can I refer people to my other thread " why people dont post anymore in the forum" then you will understand why people and myself included from now on being very carefull about posting and replying from now on ?
In great respect to Travlinman, I don't think he was singling out them, he maybe just thinking about her at this moment in time. People are too quick to judge on here
Don't forget its Xmas. I think about alot of things that has happened over the years at this time of year & bless that I am in a position to say Merry Xmas to people in a warm, safe place.
Only my opinion of course x
disilousiond ...steve
Sex God
One of my sons (11yrs) on Christmas eve was sat here and out of te blue said "I wish I could give Madeline one of my Christmas presents".
Well it brought a lump to my throat and started me thinking about her and others in that position parents and kids alike.
My thoughts did reach out to Madeline and her parents this Christmas so travelinbloke i'm with you.
Well it brought a lump to my throat and started me thinking about her and others in that position parents and kids alike.
My thoughts did reach out to Madeline and her parents this Christmas so travelinbloke i'm with you.
Flower your postings are usually quite sensible
However nobody should be held accountable for having their child abducted, apart from the abductor/s
Whether they were 50 yards away or in the next room is irrelevant as NO child should be abducted.
If you really do think they should be held accountable, then you better retract your last statement, because most children that do go missing do so when out of their parents sight and that certainly doesn’t make the parents accountable, and as for people suggesting she would never have gone missing if the parents weren’t across at the restaurant, I’d like to know why they think this as its happened before when parents are around and unfortunately will certainly happen again. The only reasoning I can see behind it is they want to at least blame someone.
All the best to everyone in 2009
However nobody should be held accountable for having their child abducted, apart from the abductor/s
Whether they were 50 yards away or in the next room is irrelevant as NO child should be abducted.
If you really do think they should be held accountable, then you better retract your last statement, because most children that do go missing do so when out of their parents sight and that certainly doesn’t make the parents accountable, and as for people suggesting she would never have gone missing if the parents weren’t across at the restaurant, I’d like to know why they think this as its happened before when parents are around and unfortunately will certainly happen again. The only reasoning I can see behind it is they want to at least blame someone.
All the best to everyone in 2009
Sex God
Quote by flower411
There are loads of parents out there who are missing children this Christmas through no fault of their own.
:thumbup:
And loads of parents who are without their children but the children are not missing.....Just absent....
Quote by Deviants
Flower your postings are usually quite sensible
However nobody should be held accountable for having their child abducted, apart from the abductor/s
Whether they were 50 yards away or in the next room is irrelevant as NO child should be abducted.
If you really do think they should be held accountable, then you better retract your last statement, because most children that do go missing do so when out of their parents sight and that certainly doesn’t make the parents accountable, and as for people suggesting she would never have gone missing if the parents weren’t across at the restaurant, I’d like to know why they think this as its happened before when parents are around and unfortunately will certainly happen again. The only reasoning I can see behind it is they want to at least blame someone.
All the best to everyone in 2009
I believe you should ask yourself this question.
Would you leave your child in a place like that or at home even at their ages?
I for one have never left my children alone at that age even to pop into a neighbour’s house for 2 minutes, we have to as parent’s judge what age is acceptable to leave a child alone, each child is different. the ages they were was in my opinion totally unacceptable.
If they done the same thing in this country I am sure more questions would be raised, why is it that people think it is any different abroad?
you mentioned that children have gone missing while out of their parents sight, while playing etc ...we all know the cases. but these children were a lot older, I feel there is a difference and the ages are a key factor.
I don’t think for one minute any child should be abducted the people that do this are the lowest form.
But we as parents have to judge when the time is right to give our children the freedom to be left alone, and I believe the parents totally got it wrong.
If they done it in this country I am sure they would have been held accountable.
I would just like to add, because people might disagree with you, it just means we see it from a different view point.
We are all intital to our own opinions.
Don't take it so personal
Quote by Theladyisaminx
Flower your postings are usually quite sensible
However nobody should be held accountable for having their child abducted, apart from the abductor/s
Whether they were 50 yards away or in the next room is irrelevant as NO child should be abducted.
If you really do think they should be held accountable, then you better retract your last statement, because most children that do go missing do so when out of their parents sight and that certainly doesn’t make the parents accountable, and as for people suggesting she would never have gone missing if the parents weren’t across at the restaurant, I’d like to know why they think this as its happened before when parents are around and unfortunately will certainly happen again. The only reasoning I can see behind it is they want to at least blame someone.
All the best to everyone in 2009
I believe you should ask yourself this question.
Would you leave your child in a place like that or at home even at their ages?
I for one have never left my children alone at that age even to pop into a neighbour’s house for 2 minutes, we have to as parent’s judge what age is acceptable to leave a child alone, each child is different. the ages they were was in my opinion totally unacceptable.
If they done the same thing in this country I am sure more questions would be raised, why is it that people think it is any different abroad?
you mentioned that children have gone missing while out of their parents sight, while playing etc ...we all know the cases. but these children were a lot older, I feel there is a difference and the ages are a key factor.
I don’t think for one minute any child should be abducted the people that do this are the lowest form.
But we as parents have to judge when the time is right to give our children the freedom to be left alone, and I believe the parents totally got it wrong.
If they done it in this country I am sure they would have been held accountable.
I would just like to add, because people might disagree with you, it just means we see it from a different view point.
We are all intital to our own opinions.
Don't take it so personal
I'm not taking it personal, honest, and it isn't about whether they should or shouldn't have left their children unattended, we all know that answer, I don't need to ask myself that question thanks.
What got to me was the fact that anyone can take offence at this very sentence "my thoughts go out at christmas to Madeleine McCann" and suggest that the parents deserve no sympathy because they were bad parents and made a bad judgement, well sorry the "they got what they deserved" or the "they were partly to blame" doesn't wash off with me and they'll have my sympathy regardless, as I can't even imagine the hell they are going through. I know its an emotive subject but how can anyone even suggest there’s more deserving children or parents out there when we're talking about missing children? they are All equally deserving regardless of how they went missing or the events leading upto it.
I feel that it is a bit dumb to show or invent consideration for children or people that you have no way of knowing exist let alone any experience of. Is there a word for it?
The fact that one does have such feelings is because we are reminded of such things by the case of Madeleine. Her story makes it personal for me and many others; of course, but unknown people have no voice, or media mechanism working on their behalf.
So once reminded I go into consideration of her and others. But I don't find that I think about unknown people at any other time. Does anyone normally?
The fact that one does have such feelings is because we are reminded of such things by the case of Madeleine. Her story makes it personal for me and many others; of course, but unknown people have no voice, or media mechanism working on their behalf.
So once reminded I go into consideration of her and others. But I don't find that I think about unknown people at any other time. Does anyone normally?
Quote by Deviants
Flower your postings are usually quite sensible
However nobody should be held accountable for having their child abducted, apart from the abductor/s
Whether they were 50 yards away or in the next room is irrelevant as NO child should be abducted.
If you really do think they should be held accountable, then you better retract your last statement, because most children that do go missing do so when out of their parents sight and that certainly doesn’t make the parents accountable, and as for people suggesting she would never have gone missing if the parents weren’t across at the restaurant, I’d like to know why they think this as its happened before when parents are around and unfortunately will certainly happen again. The only reasoning I can see behind it is they want to at least blame someone.
All the best to everyone in 2009
I believe you should ask yourself this question.
Would you leave your child in a place like that or at home even at their ages?
I for one have never left my children alone at that age even to pop into a neighbour’s house for 2 minutes, we have to as parent’s judge what age is acceptable to leave a child alone, each child is different. the ages they were was in my opinion totally unacceptable.
If they done the same thing in this country I am sure more questions would be raised, why is it that people think it is any different abroad?
you mentioned that children have gone missing while out of their parents sight, while playing etc ...we all know the cases. but these children were a lot older, I feel there is a difference and the ages are a key factor.
I don’t think for one minute any child should be abducted the people that do this are the lowest form.
But we as parents have to judge when the time is right to give our children the freedom to be left alone, and I believe the parents totally got it wrong.
If they done it in this country I am sure they would have been held accountable.
I would just like to add, because people might disagree with you, it just means we see it from a different view point.
We are all intital to our own opinions.
Don't take it so personal
I'm not taking it personal, honest, and it isn't about whether they should or shouldn't have left their children unattended, we all know that answer, I don't need to ask myself that question thanks.
What got to me was the fact that anyone can take offence at this very sentence "my thoughts go out at christmas to Madeleine McCann" and suggest that the parents deserve no sympathy because they were bad parents and made a bad judgement, well sorry the "they got what they deserved" or the "they were partly to blame" doesn't wash off with me and they'll have my sympathy regardless, as I can't even imagine the hell they are going through. I know its an emotive subject but how can anyone even suggest there’s more deserving children or parents out there when we're talking about missing children? they are All equally deserving regardless of how they went missing or the events leading upto it.
I don’t think anyone with a bit of compassion can't have some form of sympathy for the parents I do, but I have 100% sympathy for the Maddie and all the other children this has happened to.
I think it is more to do with why just this case?
There are a lot of parents that have lost children due to illness etc so to hear a child that this has happened, through I would say a decision the parents is a little harder to swallow, your babies are precious gifts to cherish and protect.
I personally can not understand anyone leaving their little ones alone even in bed to go for a meal, I would like to ask what were they thinking?
Quote by Theladyisaminx
Flower your postings are usually quite sensible
However nobody should be held accountable for having their child abducted, apart from the abductor/s
Whether they were 50 yards away or in the next room is irrelevant as NO child should be abducted.
If you really do think they should be held accountable, then you better retract your last statement, because most children that do go missing do so when out of their parents sight and that certainly doesn’t make the parents accountable, and as for people suggesting she would never have gone missing if the parents weren’t across at the restaurant, I’d like to know why they think this as its happened before when parents are around and unfortunately will certainly happen again. The only reasoning I can see behind it is they want to at least blame someone.
All the best to everyone in 2009
I believe you should ask yourself this question.
Would you leave your child in a place like that or at home even at their ages?
I for one have never left my children alone at that age even to pop into a neighbour’s house for 2 minutes, we have to as parent’s judge what age is acceptable to leave a child alone, each child is different. the ages they were was in my opinion totally unacceptable.
If they done the same thing in this country I am sure more questions would be raised, why is it that people think it is any different abroad?
you mentioned that children have gone missing while out of their parents sight, while playing etc ...we all know the cases. but these children were a lot older, I feel there is a difference and the ages are a key factor.
I don’t think for one minute any child should be abducted the people that do this are the lowest form.
But we as parents have to judge when the time is right to give our children the freedom to be left alone, and I believe the parents totally got it wrong.
If they done it in this country I am sure they would have been held accountable.
I would just like to add, because people might disagree with you, it just means we see it from a different view point.
We are all intital to our own opinions.
Don't take it so personal
I'm not taking it personal, honest, and it isn't about whether they should or shouldn't have left their children unattended, we all know that answer, I don't need to ask myself that question thanks.
What got to me was the fact that anyone can take offence at this very sentence "my thoughts go out at christmas to Madeleine McCann" and suggest that the parents deserve no sympathy because they were bad parents and made a bad judgement, well sorry the "they got what they deserved" or the "they were partly to blame" doesn't wash off with me and they'll have my sympathy regardless, as I can't even imagine the hell they are going through. I know its an emotive subject but how can anyone even suggest there’s more deserving children or parents out there when we're talking about missing children? they are All equally deserving regardless of how they went missing or the events leading upto it.
I don’t think anyone with a bit of compassion can't have some form of sympathy for the parents I do, but I have 100% sympathy for the Maddie and all the other children this has happened to.
I think it is more to do with why just this case?
There are a lot of parents that have lost children due to illness etc so to hear a child that this has happened, through I would say a decision the parents is a little harder to swallow, your babies are precious gifts to cherish and protect.
I personally can not understand anyone leaving their little ones alone even in bed to go for a meal, I would like to ask what were they thinking?
When I was a child it was the " norm " to leave kids asleep. We always went away to holiday camps in the UK. They offered child minding services, where you tied a hankie onto the door of your chalet, and people came around and checked.
If a child was crying it would come up on a huge board saying a child was crying in chalet number whatever. So many parents took that up and nobody batted an eyelid. It was normal for that to happen.
I know things have changed now but back then it was ok. After the Maddie case and the arguements about leaving her, am sick and tired of people slating parents who leave their kids.
My gripe is that the hotel offered a child minding service, and THEY chose not to do that. Hotels and holiday camps still offer that service, and I for one do not knock people for taking that service.
The service was there for Maddie and for whatever reason they chose not to tell the hotel, the child was in that room. Maybe had they have done that, she would still be with them today? That is my only problem with this case.
I for one would not leave my kids alone asleep, even with a minding service. But I do not knock others if they want that service. The trouble is times have changed now for the worse, and I would not want to take that chance. But that is just my opinion as parents that want to leave their children, than that is theirs to make.
Well I'm sure no matter your view on the actions of the parents, we can all agree the punishment does not fit the crime in this case? As in no matter what, they did not deserve to have their child abducted.
As it goes, I share the view that all missing children deserve the same concern and publicity this case attracted.
High time we adopted the 'code yellow' system the U.S. uses.
As it goes, I share the view that all missing children deserve the same concern and publicity this case attracted.
High time we adopted the 'code yellow' system the U.S. uses.
Quote by staffcple
Well I'm sure no matter your view on the actions of the parents, we can all agree the punishment does not fit the crime in this case? As in no matter what, they did not deserve to have their child abducted.
As it goes, I share the view that all missing children deserve the same concern and publicity this case attracted.
High time we adopted the 'code yellow' system the U.S. uses.
The worst punishment any parent could get. I think I would be devastated beyond belief, if God forbid that was my child.
