Anybody watch the couple on tele walking naked from Lands end to John o' Groats.
It seemed to be so obvious that the majority of people that they came across had no real objections to them. The interviewer had to go out of his way to find a total of 2 people who objected, both of them to my mind purely because they thought that they aught to been seen to object, not because they were really personally offended. They both stated that they were objecting because they thought that somebody else might be offened.
I now come to the point.
I wonder if this documentry could be used as a defence against the new sexual offeces act as it clearly proves that nudity is not offensive to the greater majority of people.
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Anybody watch the couple on tele walking naked from Lands end to John o' Groats.
It seemed to be so obvious that the majority of people that they came across had no real objections to them. The interviewer had to go out of his way to find a total of 2 people who objected, both of them to my mind purely because they thought that they aught to been seen to object, not because they were really personally offended. They both stated that they were objecting because they thought that somebody else might be offened.
I now come to the point.
I wonder if this documentry could be used as a defence against the new sexual offeces act as it clearly proves that nudity is not offensive to the greater majority of people.
As a nudist myself this is very important to me.
I help run a site for local naturists and we have always supported Steve Gough in his attempts to break down the prejudice against nudism in this country.
Go to Germany and they don't bat an eyelid
As long as someone is not out to offend or using it to sexual ends then for me its ok.
DD
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Anybody watch the couple on tele walking naked from Lands end to John o' Groats.
It seemed to be so obvious that the majority of people that they came across had no real objections to them. The interviewer had to go out of his way to find a total of 2 people who objected, both of them to my mind purely because they thought that they aught to been seen to object, not because they were really personally offended. They both stated that they were objecting because they thought that somebody else might be offened.
I now come to the point.
I wonder if this documentry could be used as a defence against the new sexual offeces act as it clearly proves that nudity is not offensive to the greater majority of people.
As a nudist myself this is very important to me.
I help run a site for local naturists and we have always supported Steve Gough in his attempts to break down the prejudice against nudism in this country.
Go to Germany and they don't bat an eyelid
As long as someone is not out to offend or using it to sexual ends then for me its ok.
DD
Well put DD.
As with anything like this there are always going to some that kick up a fuss though.
We watched the second half. It did seem that a lot of police, court and prison resources have been wasted on the various prosecutions. However, there was an inevitability about it all and we felt that Steve was looking for the role of martyr. We have been naturist for 15 years and have always taken into account the sensibilities of people who may be offended by nudity. Although not shocked by seeing him naked in a busy street or supermarket, we did question the appropriatness of nudity there. He seemed to confirm an image that naturists are at best eccentric.
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We watched the second half. It did seem that a lot of police, court and prison resources have been wasted on the various prosecutions. However, there was an inevitability about it all and we felt that Steve was looking for the role of martyr. We have been naturist for 15 years and have always taken into account the sensibilities of people who may be offended by nudity. Although not shocked by seeing him naked in a busy street or supermarket, we did question the appropriatness of nudity there. He seemed to confirm an image that naturists are at best eccentric.
Yes I agree its difficult to strike the right balance but I also see the viewpoint of being so sensitive to other peoples feelings that you suppress your own needs and in the end nudists can still be seen as eccentric .. hiding away to practice their secret nudism
I don't have a page 3 model body at all but am a normal woman but not ashamed of who or what I am. I don't want to parade through the streets naked but I do want to be able to be in my home naked without having to hide behind the curtains or have to dress when someone comes to the door ... or walk to the farthest part of the beach and hide behind a rock because I want an all over tan.
DD
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We watched the second half. It did seem that a lot of police, court and prison resources have been wasted on the various prosecutions. However, there was an inevitability about it all and we felt that Steve was looking for the role of martyr. We have been naturist for 15 years and have always taken into account the sensibilities of people who may be offended by nudity. Although not shocked by seeing him naked in a busy street or supermarket, we did question the appropriatness of nudity there. He seemed to confirm an image that naturists are at best eccentric.
I totally agree that a lot of what he did was publicity seeking, and often inappropriate (wonder how much he got paid), but the real point is that the great majority of people did not object, wich is entirely contrary to the establishments veiw, and out laws.
I saw the programme and at first thought he was not a nice person to know and was in it for more than was being stated. but as the programme went on i started to warm to Steve.
Why should he not be allowed to walk around naked if he want to, i seem i was ok with the police in some areas but not others.
why was he let out of prison nake only to get arrested once again, they prison should not have let him out if he was breaking his bail, seems to me someone set him up for that and the system is to blame.
When he was in the pub talking to the lady and she was well against his view but everyone else in the pub agreed with him it was so funny.
and also the old lady who said 'well he was no adonis' did not stop he looking though did it.
I hope he finishes him walk one day on his own away from the film crew and he might get it down.
and finally
DD
i dont mind walking around the flat naked, but with the heating on its cold in london
Why should he not be allowed to walk around naked if he want to, i seem i was ok with the police in some areas but not others.
why was he let out of prison nake only to get arrested once again, they prison should not have let him out if he was breaking his bail, seems to me someone set him up for that and the system is to blame.
When he was in the pub talking to the lady and she was well against his view but everyone else in the pub agreed with him it was so funny.
and also the old lady who said 'well he was no adonis' did not stop he looking though did it.
I hope he finishes him walk one day on his own away from the film crew and he might get it down.
and finally
DD
i dont mind walking around the flat naked, but with the heating on its cold in london
i applaud what they were trying to do, and i did notice that the majority of people were not offended by it.
i think the police took a waaaay too serious a line on the whole thing when they were clearly hiking and not making a scene out of it (although it may have been for the cameras, dont want the police to seem like they are not doing their job eh)
i think the police took a waaaay too serious a line on the whole thing when they were clearly hiking and not making a scene out of it (although it may have been for the cameras, dont want the police to seem like they are not doing their job eh)
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I saw the programme and at first thought he was not a nice person to know and was in it for more than was being stated. but as the programme went on i started to warm to Steve.
Why should he not be allowed to walk around naked if he want to, i seem i was ok with the police in some areas but not others.
why was he let out of prison nake only to get arrested once again, they prison should not have let him out if he was breaking his bail, seems to me someone set him up for that and the system is to blame.
When he was in the pub talking to the lady and she was well against his view but everyone else in the pub agreed with him it was so funny.
and also the old lady who said 'well he was no adonis' did not stop he looking though did it.
I hope he finishes him walk one day on his own away from the film crew and he might get it down.
and finally
DD
i dont mind walking around the flat naked, but with the heating on its cold in london
The governor of the Prison would have no choice but to let him out as he would omly have a warrant to detain him for the 14 days. What actually happened was a Gate Arrest by the police wich is not at all uncommon.
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I saw the programme and at first thought he was not a nice person to know and was in it for more than was being stated. but as the programme went on i started to warm to Steve.
Why should he not be allowed to walk around naked if he want to, i seem i was ok with the police in some areas but not others.
why was he let out of prison nake only to get arrested once again, they prison should not have let him out if he was breaking his bail, seems to me someone set him up for that and the system is to blame.
When he was in the pub talking to the lady and she was well against his view but everyone else in the pub agreed with him it was so funny.
and also the old lady who said 'well he was no adonis' did not stop he looking though did it.
I hope he finishes him walk one day on his own away from the film crew and he might get it down.
and finally
DD
i dont mind walking around the flat naked, but with the heating on its cold in london
The governor of the Prison would have no choice but to let him out as he would omly have a warrant to detain him for the 14 days. What actually happened was a Gate Arrest by the police wich is not at all uncommon.
well over the top though coz how would the police know he was coming out naked if someone inside had not told them
Sex God
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Anybody watch the couple on tele walking naked from Lands end to John o' Groats.
It seemed to be so obvious that the majority of people that they came across had no real objections to them. The interviewer had to go out of his way to find a total of 2 people who objected, both of them to my mind purely because they thought that they aught to been seen to object, not because they were really personally offended. They both stated that they were objecting because they thought that somebody else might be offened.
I now come to the point.
I wonder if this documentry could be used as a defence against the new sexual offeces act as it clearly proves that nudity is not offensive to the greater majority of people.
I didn't see it so am at a disadvantage, but I doubt very much that it proved people are not offended by innapropriate nudity, like all these stunts, it probably just proves that the majority of people would sooner turn the other cheek than make a fuss.
You will notice that I've used the term innapropriate and from what you've all said, thats what it is to me. I simply do want to walk down the street and see naked people however liberating it is for them, sorry, but again I will swim against the tide on this one, you want to get naked then by all means do so, either in the privacy of your own home, or in a public place that caters for it, but the street or supermarket just isnt on.
Sex God
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why was he let out of prison nake only to get arrested once again, they prison should not have let him out if he was breaking his bail, seems to me someone set him up for that and the system is to blame.
The governor of the Prison would have no choice but to let him out as he would omly have a warrant to detain him for the 14 days. What actually happened was a Gate Arrest by the police wich is not at all uncommon.
well over the top though coz how would the police know he was coming out naked if someone inside had not told them
usually when you get a custodial sentence, you serve half of it, and then are released on licence for the remainder of the jail term. if the guy's determined to commit an offence that breaches his licence conditions, then the governor has no option but to inform the police. he's part of the criminal justice system after all. the guy would have been well aware of this, so the earlier point about him playing the martyr seems bang on?
does seem a bit daft to get yourself arrested as soon as you leave the jail, cos you're bound to get nicked, and hardly goes to prove a point?
neil x x x ;)
Sex God
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Why should he not be allowed to walk around naked if he want to, i seem i was ok with the police in some areas but not others.
it may well be that most people aren't offended by nudity per se, but that's very different from people being happy to dodge naked blokes' tadgers doing the weekly shop in Tescos!
nudity as self-expression is all well and good, and is widely catered for here and there. there are even groups of naked ramblers around the country if that's what floats your boat, but general nudity in public places is entirely inappropriate IMO. if you decriminalise or legalise it, you make it OK for those with less savoury intentions to go around naked and get their sexual kick from flashing young girls, for example? no more need of a dirty raincoat down the park? what legal sanction could you use against them if you no longer have a law covering nudity that gives you the power of arrest?
neil x x x ;)
I find the idea of nudity and supermarkets somewhat disconcerting ..particularly during the bbq season :shock:
I enjoy nudity and visit Germany quite often and find there attitude refreshing but fair. Many areas people can enjoy naked recreation but you dont or at least I havent ever seen anyone wandering around Cologne or Munich undressed :roll:
There are places in the Uk and groups which you can join and express your life preferences and these are increasingly open to more sigles ie Swim clubs private groups etc. so maybee this would be a better idea.
My opinion is that it doesnt neccesarily ofend me but probably would my mum
I enjoy nudity and visit Germany quite often and find there attitude refreshing but fair. Many areas people can enjoy naked recreation but you dont or at least I havent ever seen anyone wandering around Cologne or Munich undressed
:roll: There are places in the Uk and groups which you can join and express your life preferences and these are increasingly open to more sigles ie Swim clubs private groups etc. so maybee this would be a better idea.
My opinion is that it doesnt neccesarily ofend me but probably would my mum
The pervs, freaks & flashers cause plenty of problems for everyone else 
It's illegal for you to have sex before you're 16 because of the paedos, and it's illegal to sunbathe naked in a park because of the dirty mac brigade :(
As for striking the balance if you're walking naked accross the country - fine in general, but they need to remember that other ppl have the right to not see them naked as much as they themselves have the right to be naked, and when your nakedness impunes on other ppls day-to-day lives compromises must be made.
I'll happily sunbathe naked in Hyde park, or strip off in a nightclub, but that's very different to being naked in Tescos or walking down oxford street (which, granted, I have done, but there were mitigating circumstances officer!)
It's illegal for you to have sex before you're 16 because of the paedos, and it's illegal to sunbathe naked in a park because of the dirty mac brigade :(
As for striking the balance if you're walking naked accross the country - fine in general, but they need to remember that other ppl have the right to not see them naked as much as they themselves have the right to be naked, and when your nakedness impunes on other ppls day-to-day lives compromises must be made.
I'll happily sunbathe naked in Hyde park, or strip off in a nightclub, but that's very different to being naked in Tescos or walking down oxford street (which, granted, I have done, but there were mitigating circumstances officer!)
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I also applaude him. Germany is rife with nudist areas and nobody seems to take offence at all.
Just why are we so hung up about nudity? What makes us so bloody different to any other mammal, oh I forgot, we're clever aren't we.....
Aren't the nudist areas in Germany public parks and beaches rather than supermarkets and town streets though?
We have lost touch a little with the naturist world since we started swinging (the two are really very different), although we still holiday naturist, but believe that Steve's activities would put him on the fringes of naturist thinking. Most naturists would applaud more naked beaches and some would like the right to ramble naked, but very few would like to do their weekly shop naked.
DD, don't you think the naturist part of the beach is always more pleasant than the textile end? The walk is usually made worthwhile by the good company, lack of crowds and the good atmosphere. We are always happy to leave our belongings on the beach if we swim or go for a walk, knowing that they are unlikely to be touched but someone will be keeping an eye on them anyway. We wouldn't feel this way at the textile end of the beach.
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Most naturists would applaud more naked beaches and some would like the right to ramble naked, but very few would like to do their weekly shop naked.
We're naturists and some supermarkets on naturist sites ask that you wear something whilst shopping. Think it's a hygeine thing or health and safety around the freezer areas
:love: xxx
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Most naturists would applaud more naked beaches and some would like the right to ramble naked, but very few would like to do their weekly shop naked.
We're naturists and some supermarkets on naturist sites ask that you wear something whilst shopping. Think it's a hygeine thing or health and safety around the freezer areas
:love: xxx
Not to mention the the butchers while they're making sausages. Flouring the baps in the bakers wouldn't be too bad though. :lol:
Sex God
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DD, don't you think the naturist part of the beach is always more pleasant than the textile end? The walk is usually made worthwhile by the good company, lack of crowds and the good atmosphere. We are always happy to leave our belongings on the beach if we swim or go for a walk, knowing that they are unlikely to be touched but someone will be keeping an eye on them anyway. We wouldn't feel this way at the textile end of the beach.
but thats because being naked, no one has got any pockets to put your stuff in.
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DD, don't you think the naturist part of the beach is always more pleasant than the textile end? The walk is usually made worthwhile by the good company, lack of crowds and the good atmosphere. We are always happy to leave our belongings on the beach if we swim or go for a walk, knowing that they are unlikely to be touched but someone will be keeping an eye on them anyway. We wouldn't feel this way at the textile end of the beach.
but thats because being naked, no one has got any pockets to put your stuff in.
Oh I can think of a few places Davej :twisted:
DD
Sex God
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DD, don't you think the naturist part of the beach is always more pleasant than the textile end? The walk is usually made worthwhile by the good company, lack of crowds and the good atmosphere. We are always happy to leave our belongings on the beach if we swim or go for a walk, knowing that they are unlikely to be touched but someone will be keeping an eye on them anyway. We wouldn't feel this way at the textile end of the beach.
but thats because being naked, no one has got any pockets to put your stuff in.
Oh I can think of a few places Davej :twisted:
DD
:shock: I can see how that might work with my loose change and mobile phone, but I also take my Banjo to the beach, I'm assuming that this would be safe:shock:
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DD, don't you think the naturist part of the beach is always more pleasant than the textile end? The walk is usually made worthwhile by the good company, lack of crowds and the good atmosphere. We are always happy to leave our belongings on the beach if we swim or go for a walk, knowing that they are unlikely to be touched but someone will be keeping an eye on them anyway. We wouldn't feel this way at the textile end of the beach.
but thats because being naked, no one has got any pockets to put your stuff in.
Oh I can think of a few places Davej :twisted:
DD
:shock: I can see how that might work with my loose change and mobile phone, but I also take my Banjo to the beach, I'm assuming that this would be safe:shock:
Put a strap on it Dave .. and sling it around your .......................
Neck
DD
Sex God
ahhh the memories :smile2: ....the memories :smile2: and that shirt doesn't fit anymore either
Anybody watch the couple on tele walking naked from Lands end to John o' Groats.
I am very happy on nudist beaches / sites and feel there should be more public places availabe - it's so good not having to wear anything and amongst nudists there is no fuss etc. You feel more relaxed somehow - maybe as nudists we let a lot more go than the clothes...... However I think there has to be respect for other people's views as well. Most people are up tight about these matters. Not sure about the walkers - it was good to raise the topic but can be counter productive if people stereotype nudists as exhibitionists which is not the case. Ben
I am very happy on nudist beaches / sites and feel there should be more public places availabe - it's so good not having to wear anything and amongst nudists there is no fuss etc. You feel more relaxed somehow - maybe as nudists we let a lot more go than the clothes...... However I think there has to be respect for other people's views as well. Most people are up tight about these matters. Not sure about the walkers - it was good to raise the topic but can be counter productive if people stereotype nudists as exhibitionists which is not the case. Ben
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Anybody watch the couple on tele walking naked from Lands end to John o' Groats.
It seemed to be so obvious that the majority of people that they came across had no real objections to them. The interviewer had to go out of his way to find a total of 2 people who objected, both of them to my mind purely because they thought that they aught to been seen to object, not because they were really personally offended. They both stated that they were objecting because they thought that somebody else might be offened.
I now come to the point.
I wonder if this documentry could be used as a defence against the new sexual offeces act as it clearly proves that nudity is not offensive to the greater majority of people.
I have actually seen this couple, although they did have another male with them on that day. They were calmly walking down the main road through a small Somerset village. On that particular occasion they could be charged under the new Voyeurism Act. Or to give it the old more familiar name exposure. There were parents with very young children around, and their arrival in the village certainly caused alarm and distress to some.
equi-princess xxx
