I have been reading a couple of her books about women and their fantasies and I was wondering what others thought of them.
Most of it is perfectly acceptable, fantasies about bdsm, exhibitionism, naughty sex and romantic scenarios which are fine and dandy but there are others which are not only but illegal for good reason e.g. children and animal stuff. I was uncomfortable about reading those parts, especially as I was looking for raunchy stories IYKWIM, to come across that sort of thing made me feel very awkward.
Hence the questions I wanted to ask:
Is it acceptable to fantasise about this sort of thing as long as it never happens?
Do you think that Ms Friday has a responsibility to warn about the dangers and legalities of these types of behaviour?
Should they be printed at all?
I personally don't like the fact that they are published at all, especially without any warning of morality and legal issues but I know many would argue about the right to free speech and raising awareness.
What do you think?
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Nancy Friday
A few of my friends have read some of here books. I think (bout 8 years ago) the stuff was mainly about S&M and stuff but since then she has gone darker. Not for me. :taz:
In my view I agree the books should carry a waring. But sadly some of the dodgy sh*t written by Nancy does happend and we should not just sweep it under the carpert and I think the books are written with a view to making you feel awarkward and to make people aware that this stuff happens. :!:
(get off my soap box now)
In my view I agree the books should carry a waring. But sadly some of the dodgy sh*t written by Nancy does happend and we should not just sweep it under the carpert and I think the books are written with a view to making you feel awarkward and to make people aware that this stuff happens. :!:
(get off my soap box now)
If its the book I,ve read I,m fairly sure the fanasies are presented as actual fantasies of actual women.
To be honest i took them all with a bit of of them are a bit over the top,stomach churning and downright illegal.
Is it right to fantasise about such things if you never do them?I guess I,ve got to say yes to I,m not alone in fantasising about lots of things i would never ever do.
Worth a read."Women on top" is one of her books
To be honest i took them all with a bit of of them are a bit over the top,stomach churning and downright illegal.
Is it right to fantasise about such things if you never do them?I guess I,ve got to say yes to I,m not alone in fantasising about lots of things i would never ever do.
Worth a read."Women on top" is one of her books
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Is it right to fantasise about such things if you never do them?I guess I,ve got to say yes to I,m not alone in fantasising about lots of things i would never ever do.
The problem to me is that I know a lot of the psychology of paedophiles and it starts with a fantasy, then they think up some sort of justification why they could do it and, well, then a child ends up suffering. Would you fantasise about fantastic sex with a sexy adult or a young child? To me it's a step too far.
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Is it right to fantasise about such things if you never do them?I guess I,ve got to say yes to I,m not alone in fantasising about lots of things i would never ever do.
The problem to me is that I know a lot of the psychology of paedophiles and it starts with a fantasy, then they think up some sort of justification why they could do it and, well, then a child ends up suffering. Would you fantasise about fantastic sex with a sexy adult or a young child? To me it's a step too far.
I know youre right is how does anyone "control" their fantasies?
I certainly have never fantasised about sex with anyone underage,but some pretty extreme things that i would never do.
I know its changing tack a little but many women i know,and im sure this is in Nancy Fridays book fantasise about being act is repugnant but its a fantasy nonethe less
I agree with the thing about fantasies but they tend to be more fantasies about being dominated than actually ' ' IYKWIM. The word may be used but what is really happening in the fantasy is consensual so not technically ' '. ' ' fantasies are also used by women who are embarrassed to admit what they want so fantasise about being 'forced' into it when deep down it's something that does turn them on.
Sex God
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Is it acceptable to fantasise about this sort of thing as long as it never happens?
People are not responsible for their desires, only their actions. I firmly believe no one chooses their fantasies because fantasies stem from desires and our desires are not optional, they're part of who we are. I don't think my sexuality, the things that turn me on and thus my fantasies, are my choice. My choice is whether or not to do anything about it.
Do you think that Ms Friday has a responsibility to warn about the dangers and legalities of these types of behaviour?
I haven't read her work so I can't comment specifically. Is she writing to inform, or to influence, or to entertain? If someone writes about drugs, for example, I don't expect them to warn me of the dangers unless that is their actual purpose in writing. I rather think the target audience for writings about sexual fantasies are presumed capable of sorting that out for themselves.
Should they be printed at all?
Unless they actually incite people to commit crimes or do harm, then I wouldn't want to censor anyone on moral grounds, even if I didn't personally like what they had to say.
I personally don't like the fact that they are published at all, especially without any warning of morality and legal issues but I know many would argue about the right to free speech and raising awareness.
What do you think?
Again, it depends on the purpose of the piece. I would expect there to be some clue on the back cover as to the content, but I wouldn't expect the writer to act as my moral guardian.
I have Nancy Friday's "My Secret Garden" and it's great stuff!
Yes, there's some stuff about , , under age sex etc, but I just avoid all the bits that turn my stomach.
I don't agree with censorship. These things exist - whether in fantasy or reality - so information should be made accessible. Brushing it under the carpet is potentially damaging to society as a whole. Information is education. Dangerous in the wrong hands, granted, but knowledge can be powerful in a positive sense also.
However, I do agree that books containing such material should carry some sort of warning on the cover.
Yes, there's some stuff about , , under age sex etc, but I just avoid all the bits that turn my stomach.
I don't agree with censorship. These things exist - whether in fantasy or reality - so information should be made accessible. Brushing it under the carpet is potentially damaging to society as a whole. Information is education. Dangerous in the wrong hands, granted, but knowledge can be powerful in a positive sense also.
However, I do agree that books containing such material should carry some sort of warning on the cover.
I read one of her books about 10+ years ago, about women's fantasies. Some of us quite like to get inside the head of the opposite sex, to know how they tick and it was quite useful in that respect. It was also, largely, a turn-on. Some of the stuff wasn't.
I generally agree with what Ice Pie has said; we are not responsible for out fantasies, dreams or indeed nightmares, but we are responsible for our actions.
K
I generally agree with what Ice Pie has said; we are not responsible for out fantasies, dreams or indeed nightmares, but we are responsible for our actions.
K
Sex God
I read Women on Top years ago. For the most part, I found the book a turn on, but nothing more. The stories, (fictional fantasies submissions by women) covered pretty much everything women think about (although in the form some were submitted, I wouldn't be surprised if some were written by men)
The book and it's content can only be interpreted by the reader. I didn't find anything educational about it, but I suppose by the time I had read it (17), I was pretty much educated and unshakeable.
I did find a few of submissions surpassing the boundaries of what could have been a credible book and nothing more than an extra point to sell the book to which it served its purpose, which is, sex sells. Simple.
Silky xxxxx
The book and it's content can only be interpreted by the reader. I didn't find anything educational about it, but I suppose by the time I had read it (17), I was pretty much educated and unshakeable.
I did find a few of submissions surpassing the boundaries of what could have been a credible book and nothing more than an extra point to sell the book to which it served its purpose, which is, sex sells. Simple.
Silky xxxxx
I've just been to my bookshelf to look at "My Secret Garden" and the edition I have was published in 1975. Skimming through the fantasies, I realise that quite a few are mine
I think it's time someone like Nancy Friday started a new collection. Or, in thirty years have our fantasies never moved on? Are we still the same people we were thirty years ago? Do today's young women still have the same fantasies as their mothers had. Do our daughters still think the same thoughts?
Do you know, I think that probably nothing has changed except maybe that maybe our perceptions of what is acceptable change.
Same fantasies, different attitutude to them. Maybe.
I think it's time someone like Nancy Friday started a new collection. Or, in thirty years have our fantasies never moved on? Are we still the same people we were thirty years ago? Do today's young women still have the same fantasies as their mothers had. Do our daughters still think the same thoughts?
Do you know, I think that probably nothing has changed except maybe that maybe our perceptions of what is acceptable change.
Same fantasies, different attitutude to them. Maybe.
I agree, the fantasies are still much the same (whether for male or female). What has changed in a lot of the western world (certainly the UK) is the willingness to be open about them and about sexual relationships in general.
Hwever, wWe're still a minority, spearheading, if you like, a revolution, whilst the rest of the people hide behind their pseudo morality and the N*ws of the Wo*ld sensationalism (I refuse to utter such degrading words in their entirety).
K
Hwever, wWe're still a minority, spearheading, if you like, a revolution, whilst the rest of the people hide behind their pseudo morality and the N*ws of the Wo*ld sensationalism (I refuse to utter such degrading words in their entirety).
K
