It's really cold at the moment and stripping off outdoors is not many peoples idea of fun.
But for many a folk, Naturism is!!
Well, okay then, when the weather is good, I like to go outside as nature intended and generally go to FKK/naturist campsites around Europe with France being the best!!
Now, I take naturism seriously because of the freedom that it provides. Stressless, clothing free, natural environments where nobody gives a jot about what your job is etc etc.
What gets to me though is why people associate naturism with swinging?
They are two, very separable things.
Any thoughts?
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What gets to me though is why people associate naturism with swinging?
They are two, very separable things.
Any thoughts?
Yes. In our very limited experience of a certain beach in a certain part of Devon as newbies, there was very much a fair amount of voyeur action involving binoculars and what have you, and a certain amount of exhibitionists pandering to them. There were a fair amount of textiles ((( Check me out with the terminology and everything?
;) ))) just wandering about as if they'd got lost that would fall neatly into voyeur categories? There was a certain amount of what I could only describe as dogging type behaviour. This is at the very last bit of a beach a mile long you understand . . . . . I'm not ashamed to admit that after a couple of visits we took advantage of the facilities on a quiet monday morning, and enjoyed being watched, but really it was mostly just me wanting to run about and get an all over tan cos it was really quite liberating. It was quite child-like really, running about with no clothes on. Standing at the edge of the sea discussing the waves with a 70 year old man I'd never met before with his widgey out and everything seemed like the most natural thing in the world at the time?
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Sex God
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Hi,
We have been naturists for about 18 years and are adamantly behind the benefits of naturism and the freedom and benefits it brings. Both our children were brought up in the trusted and safe naturism environment until the time when they became conscious about their bodys. Both have been with us on holidays to the site in West Wales since but have not gone 'nat'.
We would be very naive to try and say that swinging does not happen even at the most 'strict' sites. We have done it ourselves on two occasions with a couple that we met
off-site. Because of the presence of children any activity has to be done with the utmost discretion so as not to offend those naturists who genuinely do not swing and protect the safe name of the establishment.
As has been mentioned it is a perfectly normal thing to walk around and chat to people you've never seen before but it is however a little disturbing when you find yourself in the shower and some woman joins you only a couple of feet away!!!!!! Not under the same shower head I might say !!!!
We are not models by any description and I have an ileostomy bag and Madame Smooth a mastectomy. She went 'nat' for the first time with it this year and it was a tremendous boost to her confidence. We have never encountered any adverse comment about the blows Mother Nature has dealt us.
All we can add is to enjoy your time in the safe naturist environment and if the opportunity to play discreetly arises then enjoy that too! Good luck
Smooth2
We have been naturists for about 18 years and are adamantly behind the benefits of naturism and the freedom and benefits it brings. Both our children were brought up in the trusted and safe naturism environment until the time when they became conscious about their bodys. Both have been with us on holidays to the site in West Wales since but have not gone 'nat'.
We would be very naive to try and say that swinging does not happen even at the most 'strict' sites. We have done it ourselves on two occasions with a couple that we met
off-site. Because of the presence of children any activity has to be done with the utmost discretion so as not to offend those naturists who genuinely do not swing and protect the safe name of the establishment.
As has been mentioned it is a perfectly normal thing to walk around and chat to people you've never seen before but it is however a little disturbing when you find yourself in the shower and some woman joins you only a couple of feet away!!!!!! Not under the same shower head I might say !!!!
We are not models by any description and I have an ileostomy bag and Madame Smooth a mastectomy. She went 'nat' for the first time with it this year and it was a tremendous boost to her confidence. We have never encountered any adverse comment about the blows Mother Nature has dealt us.
All we can add is to enjoy your time in the safe naturist environment and if the opportunity to play discreetly arises then enjoy that too! Good luck
Smooth2
I can agree about the benefits that it brings. The feeling of freedom that naturism brings is quite amazing.
When I go to naturist sites, I actually feel like my true self. I also believe that it shows others that you are entirely honest with yourself. I go there to be me, the person as a human being and not the sexual side of my existence.
Showering together with female friends also feels natural and honest. I really believe that getting naked with each other in a social way brings out a deeper respect amongst folk so sharing a shower just feels normal.
@smooth2.
Great reply and obviously you have reaped the benefits despite lifes little upsets. I admire your strength of character.
Bell
When I go to naturist sites, I actually feel like my true self. I also believe that it shows others that you are entirely honest with yourself. I go there to be me, the person as a human being and not the sexual side of my existence.
Showering together with female friends also feels natural and honest. I really believe that getting naked with each other in a social way brings out a deeper respect amongst folk so sharing a shower just feels normal.
@smooth2.
Great reply and obviously you have reaped the benefits despite lifes little upsets. I admire your strength of character.
Bell
Sex God
OK, this might sound a really dumb question but something that does cross my mind not being a naturalist is....What, as a bloke, do you do if your with a few other naturists who are all in the altogether and you get a lob on? Is that OK or do you have to cover up or what?
As for thinking that naturists are associated with swingers. One idea that maybe naturists enjoying the company of other naturists while naked is quite an unusual thing to do to most of the population just as swingers, naked, enjoying the company of others,naked, is unusual. Lots of naked people = sex somewhere along the line. I have to admit to being totally uninformed as to the nature of naturism but I would find it hard to believe that people aren't interested in other peoples sex bits. I understand that textiles have the same interest too but without the opportunities to indulge it in the same way. I can't see or understand there not being a voyeuristic side to naturism. Especially as the favoured sport of naturists being mixed badminton doubles. Come on now.
As for thinking that naturists are associated with swingers. One idea that maybe naturists enjoying the company of other naturists while naked is quite an unusual thing to do to most of the population just as swingers, naked, enjoying the company of others,naked, is unusual. Lots of naked people = sex somewhere along the line. I have to admit to being totally uninformed as to the nature of naturism but I would find it hard to believe that people aren't interested in other peoples sex bits. I understand that textiles have the same interest too but without the opportunities to indulge it in the same way. I can't see or understand there not being a voyeuristic side to naturism. Especially as the favoured sport of naturists being mixed badminton doubles. Come on now.
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OK, this might sound a really dumb question but something that does cross my mind not being a naturalist is....What, as a bloke, do you do if your with a few other naturists who are all in the altogether and you get a lob on? Is that OK or do you have to cover up or what?
As for thinking that naturists are associated with swingers. One idea that maybe naturists enjoying the company of other naturists while naked is quite an unusual thing to do to most of the population just as swingers, naked, enjoying the company of others,naked, is unusual. Lots of naked people = sex somewhere along the line. I have to admit to being totally uninformed as to the nature of naturism but I would find it hard to believe that people aren't interested in other peoples sex bits. I understand that textiles have the same interest too but without the opportunities to indulge it in the same way. I can't see or understand there not being a voyeuristic side to naturism. Especially as the favoured sport of naturists being mixed badminton doubles. Come on now.
Hi, there are a number of points in your reply I'd like to try and answer.
First of all about a guy getting a stiffy....it does not happen. There are really three things that can result in a hard-on, playing with yourself, watching a fem acting provocatively or seeing a fem in sexy underwear. Seeing the female body is rarely enough
to do it. We are bombarded by media pics of beautiful bodies but the reality is that ordinary 'family' women are rarely in the same league. Its no different to your first time on a topless beach. Popeyed for a few minutes but once you've seen 50 you've seen 'em all! A naked female body in a naturist environment is not sexually arousing.
The equation that naturists = swingers, orgies etc is largely a myth perpetrated and kept alive by the tabloid newspapers and 'dirty postcard' mentality. In the days when 'dirty postcards were at their height perhaps a quarter of them featured the 'nudist colony' in some way....they didn't know any different!
As to voyeurism, I suppose we all are in a small way. If a naturist says they don't look then he/she is a liar. The difference is that there will be no arousal from it. My understanding of a voyeur is someone who watches others indulging in a sexual activity without being seen. Well, you are being seen and they are giving you a look as well, but that's where it stops.
As to sporting activities, there are many sports available to naturist sites and if any floppy bits oscillate (not going to say "swing") in the course of it so be it! The watching/playing of the game is more important.
Please to everyone reading this, try naturism if you can and enjoy it. You really will wonder why you have struggled to change under a towel on the beach for so long!!!!!
Merry Christmas
Smooth2
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OK, this might sound a really dumb question but something that does cross my mind not being a naturalist is....What, as a bloke, do you do if your with a few other naturists who are all in the altogether and you get a lob on? Is that OK or do you have to cover up or what?
As for thinking that naturists are associated with swingers. One idea that maybe naturists enjoying the company of other naturists while naked is quite an unusual thing to do to most of the population just as swingers, naked, enjoying the company of others,naked, is unusual. Lots of naked people = sex somewhere along the line. I have to admit to being totally uninformed as to the nature of naturism but I would find it hard to believe that people aren't interested in other peoples sex bits. I understand that textiles have the same interest too but without the opportunities to indulge it in the same way. I can't see or understand there not being a voyeuristic side to naturism. Especially as the favoured sport of naturists being mixed badminton doubles. Come on now.
When it comes down to it, getting a lob on is a natural occurrence :jagsatwork:
In every day textile life, you'll get a lob on or at least a semi at some time of the day.
The same goes without clothes. It happens although not very often. Most naturists carry a towel. Normally for hygeine purposes and at the sauna, pool or the bar. If a bloke does get a stiffy, that very same towel can be used to cover up!!.
As has been said though, it generally doesn't happen.
People do look at each others bodies but at the end of the day that's an entirely natural thing to do.
The plain fact is, peoples hang ups about their own bodies disappears quite quickly in a naturist environment and often, their confidence improves considerably. Let's face it. You literally have to take people for who they are. I think that's a good thing.
As for swinging, I think Lost is right. Because it isn't the social norm, then swinging and naturism are lumped together as a "weird" pastime.
Those that do lump us all in as weird be it swinging or naturism are oh so bloody wrong on all counts!!
Bell
I used to lifeguard for a local naturist club. Most of the time I was stripped off as well. I can say that that in all the time I did it never once did I or did I ever see one of the gentleman members with a "stiffy". It's called self control.
These places should be a safe environment especially as they are frequented by families with children. Whilst I agree it maybe natural there are rules on how to behave. Written and unwritten.
These places should be a safe environment especially as they are frequented by families with children. Whilst I agree it maybe natural there are rules on how to behave. Written and unwritten.
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These places should be a safe environment especially as they are frequented by families with children. Whilst I agree it maybe natural there are rules on how to behave. Written and unwritten.
Yes, you are 100% correct.
If anyone is even suspected of inappropriate behaviour, they are likely to find themselves banned from ALL naturist sites.
I'm a member of the INF and regularly visit sites in Germany and France. Many of these sites require confirmed membership of such an organisation to keep out the opportunists and weirdos.
Going back to the comment on stiffys, Like I said, it generally doesn't happen. I haven't seen it happen and it hasn't happened to me. The advice about the towel though still stands.
Bell
Sex God
Thanks for answering guys. i know the the inquiries are of the plebeian kind but I kind of think they are the sort that many of the uninitiated would ask given the opportunity and being that plebeian type person I asked.
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Great thread,
A naturist could spend all day trying to persuade a 'textile' to go 'nat' but the end decision to cross that threshold is down to the individual.
Smooth2
How incredibly true!!
It is a personal, individual choice, but no different to any choice that we make as adults.
I had considered naturism for a few years before I took the plunge. The first time I went without clothing was quite nerve racking. I suppose that's because we've been conditioned to believe that not wearing clothes is indecent behaviour within the normal confines of society.
But once I realised that nobody was actually bothered, it just suddenly felt natural and normal. It was quite an emotional experience and I have never looked back since.
I suppose that this where I have drawn the definitive line between sexuality and being a person. I suspect that this is the same way of thinking of the majority of naturists.
Swinging doesn't come into the equation. By that, I mean that I don't go camping at naturist sites for the sole purpose of looking for sex. I go there to be me. If I happen to pull at a naturist site, ( they have bars!!) it's no different than pulling a girl in a normal pub. If we end up back in a tent shagging each other senseless then great. But this all comes back to adults who are making personal choices.
I think that next year, I will probably seek out a female companion to enjoy weekends away at naturist sites. But we need some nicer weather first!!!!!
Bell
Sex God
There is one problem with the UK an nudism and that is simply its too cold.
