No directing??

24 May 2006

Quote by london_steve
well in my room on chat 2, i run a no drecting policy, and the people that go on cam in my room do so as they know that if anyone starts trying to control them, they will be warned and if they do it again removed from the room... in my view the people that do it are doing it for attention as if they sat in the room and just tried to join in the chat no one would take any notice of them. the excuse that its a swinging site so it should be ok is rubbish, the rooms are chat rooms and just because they are in a swinging site does not give people the ok for sexually or verbally abusing the people on cam...
as many of the chat ops and site mods know i run a good fun room in chat. and the repect of the people that use the room is of the upmost importance. there is a good regs base to the room and is always very friendly... its just unfortunate that there is a small element that use the site as a personal porn site. but it seems thansx to the site enforcing bans on offenders things are cooling down........iso if ya wanna cam and dont wanna get hasselled pop into london steve's place on chat 2....anyone is welcome
london steve & fun surrey

Would you like me to design a popup and banner for you from this post steve rotflmao

:thumbup:
or should we use it as your next election speach :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
Nice one, this thread is gonna run and run now ................................ whats that noise :shock: not the sarge surely :shock: clunk click lol

24 May 2006

i have to admit, for a few years now, i have always enjoyed chatrooms, i find it an easy way to chat with people, without having to deal with my social inadequacies like i would in a pub etc
so when i go in, and all i read is do this, or do that, it pisses me off for a number of reasons
1) i freely admit, i find it a lot easier to converse with women, it takes me a lot longer to chat so easily with men, and if the directors annoy everyone, women especially, with their lack of respect and decorum, then how will i find people to talk to, with whom i can have a laugh and a joke?
2) if someone is showing on cam, and i chose to look, i regard it as a treat, its a priviledge, not a members right , if the directors annoy cammers to the point where the only way they can deal with it is to turn their cam off, we all lose out
3) im not the nicest person in the world, i dont have the best manners, or respect, i know i have failings, but have we as a society really become so rude, crass and disrespectful that the only way a person can converse in a chatroom is "go on, put your fingers in"?
whatever happened to the mind being the most powerful organ, use your imagination, try chatting in a chatroom, it might get us further......
sorry, i will get off my soapbox now

24 May 2006

soapbox or not, you're right wink

24 May 2006

Quote by Sgt Bilko
Surely theres room for everyone. In a no directing room, I agree- zero tolerance.
However if someone wishes to respond to a polite request in a room where "no directing" isn't stipulated then why the hell not?

That is exactly what the rule is now!! Directing is allowed in any room where the Room Title does not say "No Directing".
That is what makes it so annoying when people direct in a non - directing room!!! confused

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Precisely my point- people who are happy to respond to "polite Co-ercion" as Pete put it, or full on "ram it in there luv" comments (although it wouldnt work with me!) should not have to curtail their enjoyment because some prats are unable to read two simple words "No Directing".
If they managed the sign up procedure surely they can muster the intellect to read the room name! rolleyes

24 May 2006

Quote by splendid33

(although I do have a thing for sheddy) :P
x x x

Don't we all? :twisted:
Hi spendid btw wave

I don't know what it is.... he just makes me melt.... I have read almost all his posts... I feel like his stalker.... surprised

:smitten:
and hello yourself sass... :rose:
I'm sure you can get treatment for that! rolleyes

24 May 2006

Quote by london_steve
well in my room on chat 2, i run a no drecting policy, and the people that go on cam in my room do so as they know that if anyone starts trying to control them, they will be warned and if they do it again removed from the room... in my view the people that do it are doing it for attention as if they sat in the room and just tried to join in the chat no one would take any notice of them. the excuse that its a swinging site so it should be ok is rubbish, the rooms are chat rooms and just because they are in a swinging site does not give people the ok for sexually or verbally abusing the people on cam...
as many of the chat ops and site mods know i run a good fun room in chat. and the repect of the people that use the room is of the upmost importance. there is a good regs base to the room and is always very friendly... its just unfortunate that there is a small element that use the site as a personal porn site. but it seems thansx to the site enforcing bans on offenders things are cooling down........iso if ya wanna cam and dont wanna get hasselled pop into london steve's place on chat 2....anyone is welcome
london steve & fun surrey

I can fully endorse what Steve has said.
That room is a great place to be - mainly occupied by people who have got to know each other over the past few weeks/months on here.
I haven't used my cam for a while - but I would have no qualms in doing so in Steve's room because I know it is well controlled.
It is a mini community in it's own right and well run by the Ops and members alike.
Hat's off to Steve!

24 May 2006

Quote by Alexandra
well in my room on chat 2, i run a no drecting policy, and the people that go on cam in my room do so as they know that if anyone starts trying to control them, they will be warned and if they do it again removed from the room... in my view the people that do it are doing it for attention as if they sat in the room and just tried to join in the chat no one would take any notice of them. the excuse that its a swinging site so it should be ok is rubbish, the rooms are chat rooms and just because they are in a swinging site does not give people the ok for sexually or verbally abusing the people on cam...
as many of the chat ops and site mods know i run a good fun room in chat. and the repect of the people that use the room is of the upmost importance. there is a good regs base to the room and is always very friendly... its just unfortunate that there is a small element that use the site as a personal porn site. but it seems thansx to the site enforcing bans on offenders things are cooling down........iso if ya wanna cam and dont wanna get hasselled pop into london steve's place on chat 2....anyone is welcome
london steve & fun surrey

might call in & say hi sometime for a chat. :thumbup:

24 May 2006

As has been said by others - if the room says 'No Directing' how rude it is to ignore that. Also, just because someone is putting on a show and enjoying doing it shouldn't mean they get hassled to do things they don't want to. Being appreciative is not the same as directing!
Finally, I did a bit of un-scientific research and quite a lot of the directors seemed to be on their own cams playing with their dicks. Not sure if that says something about them though!
What is nice though is that there are quite a few people who are prepared to stick their heads above the parapet and tell these guys to shut up or ship out! Fabio was doing this to great effect the other day and people like him deserve the thanks of all decent chatroomers! Well done you guys.

24 May 2006

Quote by Alexandra

(although I do have a thing for sheddy) :P
x x x

Don't we all? :twisted:
Hi spendid btw wave

I don't know what it is.... he just makes me melt.... I have read almost all his posts... I feel like his stalker.... surprised

:smitten:
and hello yourself sass... :rose:
I'm sure you can get treatment for that! rolleyes

Ahh the lady obviuosly has good taste Alexandra confused

Right directing............. whilst I'm pretty life savy (i hope) the chat rooms have been an eye opener for me. If only to how naive I was with regards to how some men speak to women, not sure why they do it or even what they are thinking as they use some of the phrases they use. People who know me would tell you (I hope) that I'm of the shy type when it comes to talking to women not overtly so. Iit's ust a case of not wishing to offend as quite simply I was raised by my parents to be polite, and some of the comments I've heard make me cringe to say the least. Don't think we can eradicate it once and for all but at least if we stick at it either by the op's booting em or if the new chat room has an ignore feature we should be able to make things a little better biggrin

24 May 2006

Quote by Alexandra
Just a thought on this.....
The chatroom rules specifically state that directing should not happen in rooms that are marked as not for direction.
If you're intending to cam in such a room, have the chatroom rules page open (or this topic) so you can cut and paste the URL into the chat, warning repeat offenders that they'll be reported.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/chatroom/user-rules.html
Should you get persistent directors, take a screen print of the chat and send it to an Op, Mod or Admin to deal with.
I realise this might generate extra work in the short term but the threat of membership suspension to some of these people might ease things and the direction issue should decrease as word gets around that action will be taken.

This does work with some - and normally an apology is also forthcoming with these members.
However there are more than a few who persistantly come back after being kicked, getting more and more abusive as time goes on. Even a 24 hour ban does not peturb them. These are the chatroom equivalent of the foul mouthed louts who are just out to insult and terrorise innocent people - no amount of threats deter them.
Absolutely agree Alex....and the next step for these people is to report them. The Ops, Mods or Admins can then take appropriate action.
I did think about the suggestion of having a forum topic in here to list known persistent offenders but thought that might fall foul of other issues (naming and shaming in public never being the best option). However I believe the Mods have access to a Mod-only forum where the information could be shared without making it available to the rest of us....do the chatroom Ops have access to this forum or similar as well where they could share details of offenders?
Frankly, if some people don't take the hint after a number of warnings, kicks and 24-hour bans, perhaps it's time to hit the big red button on them and wave bye-bye. They aren't the sort of people we want on here anyway.
As Sarge has already said, there are plenty of rooms where directing is welcome. They need to be shown the difference and once a few disappear because they can't follow clear rules, the rest should hopefully learn and modify their behaviour.

24 May 2006

The chatroom ops have their own lounge where bans are discussed and persistent offenders are penalised accordingly, also the rules for the chatroom are discussed as new situations crop up and revised.

24 May 2006

Quote by McrM4M-pvtOK
Frankly, if some people don't take the hint after a number of warnings, kicks and 24-hour bans, perhaps it's time to hit the big red button on them and wave bye-bye. They aren't the sort of people we want on here anyway.

Unfortunately, they're usually the one's who've paid the Â£50 subscription, and hence will be going nowhere in a hurry. rolleyes

24 May 2006

Quote by Darkfire

Frankly, if some people don't take the hint after a number of warnings, kicks and 24-hour bans, perhaps it's time to hit the big red button on them and wave bye-bye. They aren't the sort of people we want on here anyway.

Unfortunately, they're usually the one's who've paid the Â£50 subscription, and hence will be going nowhere in a hurry. rolleyes

Nope thats not the case, all members get equal treatment and those that pay don't behave any worse than those that don't.

24 May 2006

really?

24 May 2006

Quote by st3v3

Frankly, if some people don't take the hint after a number of warnings, kicks and 24-hour bans, perhaps it's time to hit the big red button on them and wave bye-bye. They aren't the sort of people we want on here anyway.

Unfortunately, they're usually the one's who've paid the Â£50 subscription, and hence will be going nowhere in a hurry. rolleyes

Nope thats not the case, all members get equal treatment and those that pay don't behave any worse than those that don't.
That's very true Steve.
I don't think it's the case that they feel they have bought the right to be complete prats.
They just are!

24 May 2006

Really Darkfire, everybody gets treated equally and all members are expected to follow the rules.
Also I'd hate to think that paying members get labelled as being different or more likely to direct or cause abuse, this isn't the case, its the members that don't understand or haven't learnt how to behave that cause issues, the majority have been members here since before we arrived.

24 May 2006

Quote by st3v3
Really Darkfire, everybody gets treated equally and all members are expected to follow the rules.

Good.

Quote by st3v3
Also I'd hate to think that paying members get labelled as being different or more likely to direct or cause abuse, this isn't the case, its the members that don't understand or haven't learnt how to behave that cause issues, the majority have been members here since before we arrived.

I agree wholeheartedly on the bit in bold.... no issues there. And I'm sure I didnt mean that if someone has paid to be here then they're more likley to direct - although for those who dont understand this place and the lifestyle I'm pretty sure there's at least some element of 'well, I've paid for this and want my money's worth'.
But if you can show me evidence to back up the last bit, then I will eat humble pie. wink

24 May 2006

Couldn't do that without naming, but it has happened in the cafe when one of the paying members claimed that they deserved to be treated differently.
Most of the bans are made by the site mods and ops, admin investigates and tries to resolve all complaints, we don't want trouble makers here, all of us including mods and ops do try to educate people where we can before banning, but its not always possible.

24 May 2006

Quote by st3v3
Couldn't do that without naming, but it has happened in the cafe when one of the paying members claimed that they deserved to be treated differently.

Ah yes, that one. Not likely to forget her are we lol

And credit where its due, a very good and appropriate example but I'm not surprised that its that particular one you've chosen , can you imagine the uproar if a ban hadnt have occurred? :shock:

Most of the bans are made by the site mods and ops, admin investigates and tries to resolve all complaints, we don't want trouble makers here, all of us including mods and ops do try to educate people where we can before banning, but its not always possible.

So, effectively then, Mods and Ops make a decision which is referred to you (Admin) and ultimately rests at your feet for resolution. Would you say then that it's just as simple a process to ban someone who's paid for access to this site for 12 months as it is someone who hasnt? dunno

24 May 2006

When dealing with a chatter who is persistant in their disregard for the rules we have no idea whether they have paid to be here or were here before the big bang...
Every body get treated equally by me and I'm sure by all other ops/mods and admin...
It makes no difference......
:-)

25 May 2006

I dont give a flying fluck if they have paid or not... If they cant follow the rules then they get banned.... wink

25 May 2006

Quote by Shireen_Mids
I dont give a flying fluck if they have paid or not... If they cant follow the rules then they get banned....

:thumbup:

25 May 2006

Quote by Darkfire
So, effectively then, Mods and Ops make a decision which is referred to you (Admin) and ultimately rests at your feet for resolution. Would you say then that it's just as simple a process to ban someone who's paid for access to this site for 12 months as it is someone who hasnt?

Just picking up on this part confused

I do have to say that when a person is discussed by mods or ops, if all of us do not want a member allowed back onto the site, admin do stick by that thought. They rarely over ride any permanent bans and certainly not without discussion.
We don't often ban for a first offence, we make notes on a persons account, giving temp bans building up to longer, then permanent bans. A member does receive warnings, either by pm, email or given by chatroom OPs. Unless its pure advertising rolleyes

We have no idea who has paid or not and neither do we need to. A decision to unban someone would not be affected by money.
A twat is a twat whether they have paid or not :lol2:

25 May 2006

WOW... this is one emotive subject :shock:
I've just plowed through all the posts (nothing else to do today wink

) and they all seem to be from the anti-directors so I guess if it went to poll we'd get a 99% response against directing in non-directing rooms.
But one thing has just crossed my mind. There seem to be two types of people in the SH chat world:
- Those that enjoy seeing something that they made happen;
- Those who prefer to sit back and watch the far more erotic show that someone "doing their own thing" puts on?
I know which one I prefer..... if you're looking for turn-ons you can't beat someone "doing it for real". If you want acting get a porno dunno

Just my two penneth.

25 May 2006

Quote by cu3b4ll
WOW... this is one emotive subject :shock:
I've just plowed through all the posts (nothing else to do today ) and they all seem to be from the anti-directors so I guess if it went to poll we'd get a 99% response against directing in non-directing rooms.
But one thing has just crossed my mind. There seem to be two types of people in the SH chat world:
- Those that enjoy seeing something that they made happen;
- Those who prefer to sit back and watch the far more erotic show that someone "doing their own thing" puts on?
I know which one I prefer..... if you're looking for turn-ons you can't beat someone "doing it for real". If you want acting get a porno
Just my two penneth.

Well I don't think anyone has any problem with those who go on cam to permit, encourage and enjoy being directed. It's not even a problem that occasionally a bit of genuine overexuberance leads to unintended directing. It's all the morons who see a bit of flesh and then demand more and more who are the problem. It's sad how many of them refuse to abide by the rules and repeatedly ignore legitimate requests to decist. The ops. etc. have a tough job so this is not a criticism of them in any way but the morons even try it on when ops are present. That shows just how little repsect they have for either the rules or other people and as such should get them a yellow card initially followed by a big permanent red card for further offences.

25 May 2006

Quote by osemlover
.... and as such should get them a yellow card initially followed by a big permanent red card for further offences.

:thumbup:
I just spent some time in London Steve's room and witnessed what fun can be had when people behave... and how the non-behavers should get treated wink

25 May 2006

Quote by cu3b4ll
.... and as such should get them a yellow card initially followed by a big permanent red card for further offences.

:thumbup:
I just spent some time in London Steve's room and witnessed what fun can be had when people behave... and how the non-behavers should get treated wink

Thats the way to run a room...
:-)

25 May 2006

Quote by Steve_Mids
.... and as such should get them a yellow card initially followed by a big permanent red card for further offences.

:thumbup:
I just spent some time in London Steve's room and witnessed what fun can be had when people behave... and how the non-behavers should get treated wink

Thats the way to run a room...
:-)
Nowt like blowing your own trumpet is there, Steve
(as the gay contortionist said)
Mind you - it's true, just a shame London Steve did such a good job of advertising it - we need a waiting room for it now!

25 May 2006

Still can't get into seteve's room FGS! No wonder it's popular !!

25 May 2006

Quote by osemlover
Still can't get into seteve's room FGS! No wonder it's popular !!

There are a few seats free at the moment :-)