Old Steam Room

30 Oct 2005

Well all I can say is that those people were very inconsiderate. perhaps some poeple really did have good reasons but could have tried a bit harder to let you know they couldn't get there.
I'm sure that you put lots of effort and time into organising all this for other people and I don't think they really realise how much energy it must of took you.
But I am sure that all those who did attend had a great time and really appreciate your efforts. So well done to you kiss

30 Oct 2005

Quote by DreamerHelen
What i DO have a huge fucking problem with is those people that say they want to come, ask to come and even sometimes beg to come and then don't fucking well turn up!!! :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Right, rant over......Phew, I feel a bit better now.....

This appears to be becomming more prevelent as time goes on.
While we can not name or shame in open forum, which I agree with, would it not be possible to send to other organisers via PM the names of those that fail to attend and do not inform confused

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Just my thoughts.
phredd = looking to be shot down !!

30 Oct 2005

Quote by DreamerHelen
I am sooooo fucking mad right now at the inconsiderate people that almost ruined nearly 6 months of planning and organising.....well I hope you're all proud of yourselves and feel very ashamed of yourselves......If you have any decency you'll send me a PM today about why you weren't there!!!!

I quite agree Helen!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

30 Oct 2005

Quote by Fred aka Medic 1

What i DO have a huge fucking problem with is those people that say they want to come, ask to come and even sometimes beg to come and then don't fucking well turn up!!! :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Right, rant over......Phew, I feel a bit better now.....

This appears to be becomming more prevelent as time goes on.
While we can not name or shame in open forum, which I agree with, would it not be possible to send to other organisers via PM the names of those that fail to attend and do not inform confused

:
Just my thoughts.
phredd = looking to be shot down !!
Helen I agree with you, it happened to me last time
Fred, not going to shoot you down in flames as I agree with you, but not on the public forum a private list for munch organisers only.

30 Oct 2005

Quote by Sarah

What i DO have a huge fucking problem with is those people that say they want to come, ask to come and even sometimes beg to come and then don't fucking well turn up!!! :x :x :x :x :x :x :x
Right, rant over......Phew, I feel a bit better now.....

This appears to be becomming more prevelent as time goes on.
While we can not name or shame in open forum, which I agree with, would it not be possible to send to other organisers via PM the names of those that fail to attend and do not inform confused

:
Just my thoughts.
phredd = looking to be shot down !!
Helen I agree with you, it happened to me last time
Fred, not going to shoot you down in flames as I agree with you, but not on the public forum a private list for munch organisers only.
Sarah Hun = thats what I said lol

phredd

30 Oct 2005

a thousand sympathies to you helen.
perhaps the site could introduce a three strikes and your out rule just for those who give no notice of not coming along?
im sure there must a way to sort out the serial non attenders and save the hassle for anyone who gives their time to organise.
maybe sh could run a list of persistant offenders (for officially supported munches) or something.

30 Oct 2005

Well I for one agree totally with you Helen, there is NO excuse for rudeness
I am absolutely disgusted with the inconsideration of some people. OK there are emergencies, where the last thing on your mind is phoning or texting to say you not coming but 55!!!!!!!!!!!!
Helen I thought your post was very mild to what I would have put :fuckinghell: and well done on your restraint.
It has been suggested and thrown out before but some kind of list must now be in order that can be emailed/pm'd to munch/larger social organisers where by they can see who cancelled AFTER the fact (there is only so many times your dog can be rushed to the vet) or no shows and no explanation.
This can be added to if necessary by the organizer and emailed/pm'd back to whoever is monitoring it.
(Sarah and Fred I am just elaborating on what you have already put smile

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It was put in the thank you thread of one of the munches that 40/50 badges were not collected by no shows.........ffs do you realise how much time and money goes into them as well!!!!!!!!!!!

30 Oct 2005

If any of the munch organisers want to pm me a list of no shows I will happily keep an eye on them. Once I get a name appear 3 times I can then make comment to future munch organisers.
55 people is bloody disgusting, I hope some of you are ashamed of yourselves mad

:x :x

30 Oct 2005

Just for interest how many were on Helen's list as confirmed but then went to Plymouth as confirmed as well???????

30 Oct 2005

I agree with a lot of what was has been said here....
I know Helen was extreamly upset with what happened and to be honest i dont blame her....
there was a load of people that never turned up. I know the next point is going to upset people but its one of the reason us single guys get the stick we do. I would say from the badgs that were left that most were single guys...
I know this sounds harsh but as a single inm the scene i have made every attempt if i cannot make an event to let the people know. Its purly politeness.
I agree something needs to be done about this...as its starting to be come a bigger problem. To ban people because of no shows shudnt have to happen...and we shudnt need to name and shame either...
Personallly i feel that maby eductating people of the problems that is caused by no shows might have a bigger impact. I know from my own opion its one of the reasons that i wont organise anything in the next 6 months as i am worried about the no-shows.
MikeC

30 Oct 2005

Helen, I also think you have been very mild in what you have said in your post. I know from experience what it is like when people dont turn up and dont even bother to let you know. We all understand that circumstances change and for whatever reason or other, people sometimes have to cancel, but as you say there is no excuse for not using manners and letting you know, either before the event or immediately afterwards.
I wonder if these people realise just how much work you have put in to organsing this? How many times you went out and about looking at suitable venues? How often you trawled the internet looking for hotels etc, just to make it a little easier for them? Obviously they dont realise just how much hard work you put into organising this event.
I really do feel for you hun, but please remember the smiles on the faces of the ones that did turn up. Remember how much fun they all had, and then remember that the fun they had was all down to you for organising the event kiss

30 Oct 2005

Add your excuses after mine >>>>>>
1. Car broke down on the motorway.
2. Batteries were flat on my mobile.
3. Had a bout of Deli-Belly from last night.
4. Lost your details
Feel free to add to the list ..
phredd

30 Oct 2005

Quote by MikeC
I would say from the badgs that were left that most were single guys...
IPersonallly i feel that maby eductating people of the problems that is caused by no shows might have a bigger impact.
MikeC

Mike I agree with what you say entirely. A couple of local drinks meets have been arranged down here and all those that didn't turn up or explain, were without exception *single* guys.
Those of use who have chatted about it afterwards are of the opinion they are either just complete timewasters, or more likely married *single* guys who cannot explain a night out easily at home - in which case why do they bother putting their names down for anything? evil

I think educating people about the problems/expenses they cause may go someway to solving the problem, but at the end of the day it really only boils down to one thing and that is a total and utter lack of manners or respect mad

Of course there will always be some people who bottle out at the last minute, or have genuine reasons to drop out, but I wonder how many of the reasons given are in themselves gen?
It always strikes me as weird that on the very night a major munch is being held, countless grannies/aunts/uncles/dogs/cats all start dropping dead :!:
Statistically, what are the chances of that happening en masse on a non munch weekend? rolleyes

We may not have verification on the site itself, but organisers cannot go along like this being let down willy nilly.
The sooner they start a list of regular non attenders the better for all concerned, who may be either in the process or thinking about organising a munch/social.
T-J

30 Oct 2005

man u was on television
i am watching england.....
MikeC

30 Oct 2005

TJ hun

My sentiments the same. Could not say it better myself.
phredd (oh thePHis F as in elephant for those who can not understand).

30 Oct 2005

lol my balls dropped the last munch i went to
sorry ....
MikeC

30 Oct 2005

Quote by RedHot
I would say from the badgs that were left that most were single guys...
IPersonallly i feel that maby eductating people of the problems that is caused by no shows might have a bigger impact.
MikeC

Mike I agree with what you say entirely. A couple of local drinks meets have been arranged down here and all those that didn't turn up or explain, were without exception *single* guys.
Those of use who have chatted about it afterwards are of the opinion they are either just complete timewasters, or more likely married *single* guys who cannot explain a night out easily at home - in which case why do they bother putting their names down for anything? evil

I think educating people about the problems/expenses they cause may go someway to solving the problem, but at the end of the day it really only boils down to one thing and that is a total and utter lack of manners or respect mad

Of course there will always be some people who bottle out at the last minute, or have genuine reasons to drop out, but I wonder how many of the reasons given are in themselves gen?
It always strikes me as weird that on the very night a major munch is being held, countless grannies/aunts/uncles/dogs/cats all start dropping dead :!:
Statistically, what are the chances of that happening en masse on a non munch weekend? rolleyes

We may not have verification on the site itself, but organisers cannot go along like this being let down willy nilly.
The sooner they start a list of regular non attenders the better for all concerned, who may be either in the process or thinking about organising a munch/social.
T-J
Just want to say that I had my name down for the Plymouth munch, but I could not attend due to the fact that I'll be moving house very soon, and need to save as much money as I can, so I couldn't really afford it (crap wages at work). I did let the organiser know, just out of common courtesy. I hope that I am not seen as a timewaster because I did not go.

30 Oct 2005

Mad at Grav
I think if you read all the post you will find that you are not one of the many .
OK wink

phredd

30 Oct 2005

Quote by MadAtGravity
I did let the organiser know, just out of common courtesy. I hope that I am not seen as a timewaster because I did not go.

But you did the majical think, you spent a couple of minutes of you time letting the organiser know that you could not attend. As you said, its only common curtesy!

30 Oct 2005

Thats ok then, I think I was just worried that people might have thought that I was just making up excuses.

30 Oct 2005

with me football is a big reason i dont attend more events but i let everyone know that that is the case.
People are understanding in genuine cases....but to have 4 grandmothers pass away in space of 6 weeks is a bit curious.
MikeC

30 Oct 2005

Thank you for all your support guys.....I really appreciate it.....
I am still really really angry but there isn't much I can do about it now.....I don't think I will be organising another London Munch anytime soon..... sad

I think the Idea of there being a Centrally Held list of people who don't turn up is a great idea......I might take you up on that Dawn hun kiss

30 Oct 2005

Quote by DreamerHelen
Thank you for all your support guys.....I really appreciate it.....
I am still really really angry but there isn't much I can do about it now.....I don't think I will be organising another London Munch anytime soon.....
I think the Idea of there being a Centrally Held list of people who don't turn up is a great idea......I might take you up on that Dawn hun

A list to my mind is certainly an idea woth investigating and of course Helen...
You allready have your own list dont ya wink

30 Oct 2005

Quote by JudyTV

A couple of local drinks meets have been arranged down here and all those that didn't turn up or explain, were without exception *single* guys.
T-J

mmm ..The above has been the case up here too. does make one wonder about these "married" single guys, doesn't it?
Judy
You two really are cynical aren't you ....
Of course they're single and they had a very good excuse for not attending.... :shock:

30 Oct 2005

Quote by JudyTV

A couple of local drinks meets have been arranged down here and all those that didn't turn up or explain, were without exception *single* guys.
T-J

mmm ..The above has been the case up here too. does make one wonder about these "married" single guys, doesn't it?
Judy
Do not want to rock the boat but can you both say that it is """Always""" a single bloke.
Maybe, just maybe single fems and ??? couples ??? may be on the list someplace.
phredd ( likes to stir the feaces somtimes)

30 Oct 2005

i wud say its more single guys from what i gather that this applys to.
MikeC

30 Oct 2005

Why do people post on a thread "You have a PM"? banghead

FFS, the recipient knows they've got a PM!
:huh:

30 Oct 2005

Thanks Judy kiss

It's not often I say this to anyone anymore around here, but I trust your comments and you. Thanks
phredd

30 Oct 2005

Quote by Fred aka Medic 1

A couple of local drinks meets have been arranged down here and all those that didn't turn up or explain, were without exception *single* guys.
T-J

mmm ..The above has been the case up here too. does make one wonder about these "married" single guys, doesn't it?
Judy
Do not want to rock the boat but can you both say that it is """Always""" a single bloke.
Maybe, just maybe single fems and ??? couples ??? may be on the list someplace.
phredd ( likes to stir the feaces somtimes)
Single fems and couples may well be an other people's lists, but what I was referring to were the couples of drinks nights held down here and from Judy's posts, it would appear to be the same sort of pattern up there too.
I have no knowledge of who did or did not attend any munches. I can only speak from experience of those mini socials that I have attended and for which quite a few *single* guys put their names down and didn't turn up, or let anyone know, so from this I can say, yes it has *always* been single guys.
Funny thing is, again speaking locally, they were quite prolific posters (often new members too) on forum in the run up to the social, shouthing yeah yeah I wanna come and saying how good it's going to be and so forth . . . .
Then those that didn't turn up seem to have lost the enthusiasm to post since and if they follow the pattern of those who have done it before, they will leave it a couple of weeks and then start posting again, thinking everyone will have forgotten about it . . . and start putting their names down for other socials/munches etc :!: :!: :!: rolleyes

It is a regular pattern which I have noticed going on for a long time and I know of one non attender at a recent local social, who has already put his name down for another social somewhere else. I wonder if he'll turn there?
Probably not, since he's also not turned up to an arranged meet with someone either and failed to let her know (not me btw lol) confused

If Dawn or the mods in general feel it right to compile a list, it can only be a bonus for all concerned.
T-J

30 Oct 2005

Quote by RedHot

A couple of local drinks meets have been arranged down here and all those that didn't turn up or explain, were without exception *single* guys.
T-J

mmm ..The above has been the case up here too. does make one wonder about these "married" single guys, doesn't it?
Judy
Do not want to rock the boat but can you both say that it is """Always""" a single bloke.
Maybe, just maybe single fems and ??? couples ??? may be on the list someplace.
phredd ( likes to stir the feaces somtimes)
Single fems and couples may well be an other people's lists, but what I was referring to were the couples of drinks nights held down here and from Judy's posts, it would appear to be the same sort of pattern up there too.
I have no knowledge of who did or did not attend any munches. I can only speak from experience of those mini socials that I have attended and for which quite a few *single* guys put their names down and didn't turn up, or let anyone know, so from this I can say, yes it has *always* been single guys.
Funny thing is, again speaking locally, they were quite prolific posters (often new members too) on forum in the run up to the social, shouthing yeah yeah I wanna come and saying how good it's going to be and so forth . . . .
Then those that didn't turn up seem to have lost the enthusiasm to post since and if they follow the pattern of those who have done it before, they will leave it a couple of weeks and then start posting again, thinking everyone will have forgotten about it . . . and start putting their names down for other socials/munches etc :!: :!: :!: rolleyes

It is a regular pattern which I have noticed going on for a long time and I know of one non attender at a recent local social, who has already put his name down for another social somewhere else. I wonder if he'll turn there?
Probably not, since he's also not turned up to an arranged meet with someone either and failed to let her know (not me btw lol) confused

If Dawn or the mods in general feel it right to compile a list, it can only be a bonus for all concerned.
T-J
its people like that give the genuine single guys on here a bad name. On sh there is a number of genuine single guys. We do attend most things we put our name down for.
MikeC