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rotflmao :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Well said all the same lol
:love: xxx (a newbie)
Quote by nickshanks
What you are talking about is transsexuality. A completely different bag to transvestism.

I do get muddled sometimes don't I :P
Mmmm And you being a Company Director confused: :?:
I wonder if you are so insensitive and muddled with your emplyees :?:
Quote by the_Laird
Although I very much doubt that an established member would have posted something which had an exceptionally high risk of causing offence to so many people
Perhaps the best advice is from Happy Cats
I'm sure youre not prejudiced but it could be read that way. Just try to think whether you could be offending anyone before you post

Yes, thank you both for some rational replies. I do (sincerely) apologise for causing offense, it was not intended and I was truly surprised by the response the original post generated. To that end, can I ask why a simple depiction, such as "22st HGV driver-type bloke," would cause offense to anyone? It was purely to conjure up a common stereotype image in reader's minds.
To Cats:
I am prejudiced, just as every single other human being is. I try as best I can not to let such prejudices affect my opinions of or interactions with others though. I am racist too as I think Irish girls are cute. Yep, that's racist. I just hope people realise that saying I didn't find blacks or east asians attractive is not the same as saying I disliked them (which is not the case at all). People who posted replies seemed to assume too much or read things that weren't there. (Well, 'cept mixing up transsexuals and transvestites, I hardly ever use the terms in conversation!)
Anyways, I posted another thread so this one can die an ungraceful and abrupt death.
Quote by nickshanks
I hate to make sweeping generalisations, but I have to admit that I've never met a transsexual that I've found attractive, and doubt I ever will. But then i don't find black or east-asian people attractive either. I was at the polling station last week and saw a couple, obviously very much in love, he was a lard & HGVs type 22st. bloke, she was a tiny vietnamese girl, about 10 years older than him. I welcome diversity, but think I'll leave it to other folks all the same.
What do you think on these sorts of matters?

Quote by nickshanks
I care about my friend, that's WHY i am trying to find out more about what she's going through. Why is that so wrong?

Call me dim BUT…….
You intended to help the friend you care about by finding out whether other people will fancy her - as you don’t? dunno
Let me guess… you were going to send her an email saying:
A – Hey I am not the only one that thinks you lot are all mingers!
B – Hey there is hope for you yet, a few non-fussy types over here actually go for the snip’n’tuck thing.
No - you wouldn't be that directly offensive would you :doh:
If I have got this wrong I do apologise (kind of – well not at all really)
P.S.
It might be a good start (seeing as you hate generalising) to not refer to people with similarity in their sexuality as "them" as if they are a cloned homogonous group.
banghead
Quote by PoloLady
P.S.
It might be a good start (seeing as you hate generalising) to not refer to people with similarity in their sexuality as "them" as if they are a cloned homogonous group.

Umm, feel free to suggest a collective noun of your own (seriously). I don't see that using the word 'them' implies any kind of homogeneity just as it wouldn't if I described a group of schoolchildren, lego bricks, tv presenters, circus performers, or anything else.
Quote by nickshanks
P.S.
It might be a good start (seeing as you hate generalising) to not refer to people with similarity in their sexuality as "them" as if they are a cloned homogonous group.

Umm, feel free to suggest a collective noun of your own (seriously). I don't see that using the word 'them' implies any kind of homogeneity just as it wouldn't if I described a group of schoolchildren, lego bricks, tv presenters, circus performers, or anything else.
Quote by nickshanks
Oh, i'm not judging them, as I said I have friends who are transsexuals (and of course many black & asian friends)

In that context the noun (your choice of noun) is what may cause offence. Try exchanging "them" for "anyone".
Still curious about how the interracial thing links into the issue of helping your friend – but I’ll save that one.
Quote by PoloLady
In that context the noun (your choice of noun) is what may cause offence. Try exchanging "them" for "anyone".

Yep, that would work too, although you'd lose specificity. If I've learnt one thing from this whole mess it's that people here have a much lower threshold for what they would find offensive than I am used to, and I will take that into account in future.
Quote by PoloLady
Still curious about how the interracial thing links into the issue of helping your friend – but I’ll save that one.

It doesn't at all, I was just rambling, since I was making a new topic. Note to self: stick to one topic per post from now on :-)
Are you still here nickshanks????
Pity rolleyes
Quote by bluexxx
Are you still here nickshanks????
Pity rolleyes

who is this guy? lmfao pmsl he sure has a bee in his bonnet, oh im cracking up here, shall we bring him to sparkle blue :twisted: rotflmao wink
Quote by rachel-lane
Are you still here nickshanks????
Pity rolleyes

who is this guy? lmfao pmsl he sure has a bee in his bonnet, oh im cracking up here, shall we bring him to sparkle blue :twisted: rotflmao wink
Well, I wouldn't mind meeting him in a dark alley where there was no witnesses. Say no more lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote by nickshanks
But then i don't find black or east-asian people attractive either.

awwww shucks, just when I just started composing a PM to you to proposition you to a night of passion and lust.... :giggle: :giggle: :giggle:
`Ermmm, what's with the labels anyway?
I'll hold your purse Bluexxx wink biggrin
Err, look. I've apologised for causing offence, I've apologised for getting my terms confused, and I've attempted to put things right by starting over in a new thread.
What else do I have to do before you'll treat me like a person?
(not directed at everyone, just those who continue to jibe)
Quote by nickshanks
What else do I have to do before you'll treat me like a person?

Roll over and beg
rolleyes :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Sad git
Quote by bluexxx
Are you still here nickshanks????
Pity rolleyes

who is this guy? lmfao pmsl he sure has a bee in his bonnet, oh im cracking up here, shall we bring him to sparkle blue :twisted: rotflmao wink
Well, I wouldn't mind meeting him in a dark alley where there was no witnesses. Say no more lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
I thought the nifty backtracking, the complete change in direction and turnaround of his questions (to something completely different to his original scrawling of pants) demonstrated a pretty agile range of footwork!
I take it you are not impressed with anyone that can “moon-walk” bluexxx? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote by PoloLady
I thought the nifty backtracking, the complete change in direction and turnaround of his questions (to something completely different to his original scrawling of pants) demonstrated a pretty agile range of footwork!

Well thank you, but it was really down to my incompetence at explaining what i wanted the first time around. :-)
Quote by nickshanks
Err, look. I've apologised for causing offence, I've apologised for getting my terms confused, and I've attempted to put things right by starting over in a new thread.
What else do I have to do before you'll treat me like a person?
(not directed at everyone, just those who continue to jibe)

Nick..
a bit of advice mate.
*Dont start a thread for the sake of it by picking something alien to yourself just for arguments sake (coz as you see.. you will get an argument)
*and if the above should happen... dont back trackso much (its not exactly a turn on and shows a distinct lack of Will power and manly-ness)
*And finally.. dont take yourself so seriously. Althougn back tracking isnt cool... turning around early doors and saying "hey im being stupid excuse moi" would have been better and would have shown a sense of humor
have fun mate wink
Quote by bluexxx
What else do I have to do before you'll treat me like a person?

Roll over and beg
rolleyes :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Sad git
Thank you for your compliments.
Quote by nickshanks
What else do I have to do before you'll treat me like a person?

Roll over and beg
rolleyes :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Sad git
Thank you for your compliments.
No problem, anytime
:roll:
I think that's the most insensitive post i've ever read, god only know's what was going through your mind when you wrote it. Maybe you got the reaction you wanted.
Arsehole!
Quote by the_magik_s
Nick..
a bit of advice mate.
*Dont start a thread for the sake of it by picking something alien to yourself just for arguments sake (coz as you see.. you will get an argument)
*and if the above should happen... dont back trackso much (its not exactly a turn on and shows a distinct lack of Will power and manly-ness)
*And finally.. dont take yourself so seriously. Althougn back tracking isnt cool... turning around early doors and saying "hey im being stupid excuse moi im just tryiing to get some attention here would have been better and would have shown a sense of humor"
have fun mate wink

Hmm, you raise a point I hadn't considered. Was it just attention seeking? It wasn't conscious, but I could just have easily clicked the reply button in Rachel's thread and asked there, something I would have normally done. But I didn't... hmm.
I don't mind back-tracking when I've made a mistake, I think it's the right thing to do and I'm not bothered if it 'doesn't look manly' or not, I'm not trying to look manly.
And yes, I take myself (and everyone else) far too seriously. It's just the way I am I'm afraid :-D
Quote by Vinesy
Maybe you got the reaction you wanted.

Yes, I agree. We have been feeding the troll rather a lot, haven't we. Maybe we should stop before he gets too fat.... or I could put him on a forced starvation diet of course lol :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote by nickshanks
Nick..
a bit of advice mate.
*Dont start a thread for the sake of it by picking something alien to yourself just for arguments sake (coz as you see.. you will get an argument)
*and if the above should happen... dont back trackso much (its not exactly a turn on and shows a distinct lack of Will power and manly-ness)
*And finally.. dont take yourself so seriously. Althougn back tracking isnt cool... turning around early doors and saying "hey im being stupid excuse moi im just tryiing to get some attention here would have been better and would have shown a sense of humor"
have fun mate wink

Hmm, you raise a point I hadn't considered. Was it just attention seeking? It wasn't conscious, but I could just have easily clicked the reply button in Rachel's thread and asked there, something I would have normally done. But I didn't... hmm.
I don't mind back-tracking when I've made a mistake, I think it's the right thing to do and I'm not bothered if it 'doesn't look manly' or not, I'm not trying to look manly.
And yes, I take myself (and everyone else) far too seriously. It's just the way I am I'm afraid :-D
Well as you may have noticed.. i edited my original post and deleted the bit about "attention seeking" coz i thought it may be a bit harsh but then i realised... I BACK TRACKED!!!... :shock: How un-manly am i?!!...bloody hell.... pot & kettle rolleyes
I have just read all of this thread - it is beyond words.
If it is genuine then there is something far wrong with this guy. If it is a wind up he has done very well indeed.
We seem to be getting a few of these this week - look at the posting in Rachel's thread last night.
How can anyone be so insensitive to put this sh1t on a public forum?
Quote by the_magik_s
Well as you may have noticed.. i edited my original post and deleted the bit about "attention seeking" coz i thought it may be a bit harsh but then i realised... I BACK TRACKED!!!... :shock: How un-manly am i?!!...bloody hell.... pot & kettle rolleyes

I'd not noticed, and had you not said anything I doubt others would have either :-)
Are you doing coffee? I could do with a strong one....
Quote by McCloggie
If it is genuine then there is something far wrong with this guy.

Actually my genuine post got locked and told to use this thread instead. Kinda odd I thought. Oh well.
PLEASE someone remove the shovel from nickshanks hands ......... he has dug himself a big enough hole by now to bury a battleship!!!
The WHOOSH Manâ„¢
Quote by SlydeWHOOSH
he has dug himself a big enough hole by now to bury a battleship!!!

I know! Funny isn't it! I may well put him out of his misery as soon as I'm bored.... then again, I might save him for a rainy day lol :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote by SlydeWHOOSH
PLEASE someone remove the shovel from nickshanks hands ......... he has dug himself a big enough hole by now to bury a battleship!!!
The WHOOSH Manâ„¢

We are hoping for a tunnel to another continent - so if the man wants to dig.... let him!
lol
Quote by Scandal
Remind me to never visit Hertfordshire: I hate to make sweeping generalisations, but I'm going to!

God, how ashamed I feel that we live in Herts now :huh: We arent all as ignorant as this.
rolleyes