Missy
All I will say is corsets
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I LOVE rules :notes: . Never take any notice of them mind! They're just nice to have, like a new pair of shoes :giggle:
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I'm sure most rules on here have evolved over time based on things that have or have not happened, And that they are looked at regularly to see if they still prevail over what happens here and close out any weak areas.
OK, well I don’t think the rules I’ve picked are not necessarily really bad, but I think the rules could be simplified and in doing this some rules could be dropped. My point really is that there are too many rules. The more rules you make the more the site becomes a minefield. I feel if there are too many rules it becomes hard to keep track. Some of the rules are good advice, but really should be advice and not a rule.
First of all the rules could be a bit more prominent. Maybe a prominent link on the users homepage. If you don’t use the chatroom you might miss the AUP completely. It is currently linked in very small red text at the bottom of the page, next to the other legal bits people rarely read.
I would also suggest trying to condense the rules if possible, perhaps rephrasing to reduce repetition. The more text there is and the more legalistic the AUP the less likely people are to read everything. Perhaps there could be an ‘AUP light’ and a more detailed AUP, provided that more detailed information (the more legalistic stuff) is clearly available. This kind of already exists a bit between the AUP and the Terms and Conditions. Earlier in this thread Steve listed some rules, in very clear succinct English and this was very easy to absorb quickly. This I think is a good example of the sort of style of an AUP light.
Chatroom
Personally I disagree about the closing of chatrooms just because the chatroom creator isn’t there anymore. I don’t think that in general the creators of chatrooms are doing that much moderating. I am sure there are exceptions. I think the room should only be closed if there is a real problem. A previous chat service I used would let you see who the room creator is. If the software allowed this people could decide themselves if they wanted to go into a room which didn’t have the room creator. I just feel it is too limiting to only allow the room to be open when the person who started it is there. This seems to encourage the person who created the room simply leave themselves logged in, even though they are not at their PC, just so that people can keep chatting. Perhaps there could instead be a function where chatters can highlight a room to moderators if there is a problem. A bit like when you call for an air steward/ess on a plane. Or the room creator could be allowed to give other users the ability to manage the room. So if he/she wanted to log off, they could pass on the room control to someone else.
Some other chatroom rules could also I think go:
You must not leave web cams unattended for more than 10 minutes
No posting of other sites, email addresses or phone numbers
No capitals are to be used as this is regarded as shouting and rude
If you open a room you must warn someone before you kick them out
Forum
I think some of the forum rules (I am referring to the rules in the sticky at the top) are a bit discouraging for new users. I would simply keep the basic rules that you should post in the appropriate forum and of course stop anything illegal or abusive, no spamming etc
For example I understand why:
“Before you post a new topic, use the forum search tool at the top to make sure you're not simply repeating an old
But I think this is off putting for someone who is new. Just because a topic was discussed before, they might want to have that conversation again, with new people. Sure some of the obvious topics would come up again and again, but that might encourage new people to join in. How many possible regulars to the forum have been lost, because their first post was blocked for this reason, possibly because they didn’t notice the sticky.
Other rules about genital shots in photos seem unneeded.
General AUP
I would drop these:
Photos will be deleted if they contain any of the following:
Any photo ads or posts either in the forum or chatroom that are posted in order to exchange pictures, videos or offer photography services or similar
Pictures that are not on topic, eg popstars, cartoons etc.
Postage stamp size pictures.
No banned members are allowed to be invited to a munch or any kind of social event that has been advertised on this site or promoted to the site members.
Photo Ads
I would allow people to post their email address if they wanted to. This could be blocked for those that have not paid as it is in the Mailbox.
I would also allow a single person to have pictures of them with other people, but I would remind them that they need that person's approval. This goes as well for couples who might want to show pics of them with another couple. Just tell them they need permission or face a permanent ban.
Finally I don’t like these two, but if I owned a site I would of course HAVE to have them:
Swinging Heaven has the right to change the AUP at anytime without prior notice to its members, Ops or Mods
Swinging Heaven has the right to withdraw membership without notice or explanation.
I am guessing some people here were involved in drawing up these rules and I am very sorry if this upsets them. This is just my opinion, so don't let this bother you too much. I am repeating myself a bit, but I think that if there are too many rules they distract from the really important rules.
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Ooo, and then there are those self proclaimed 'experts' of the forum netiquette (aka pseudomods), who just can't resist telling people what is and isn't allowed where. 
tell it like it is hunni :thumbup:
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