if you take the example i gave initial,from the daily life it will be different remember both this guys are married and must go back to theirs families after 3 months.....
i can never compare money spend bringing up a family and all that as paying for is why i set up the scenerio
i do have morals too you know
hisandhers nice to see you around hope you are coping well.
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Quote by Phuckers
if you take the example i gave initial,from the daily life it will be different remember both this guys are married and must go back to theirs families after 3 months.....
i can never compare money spend bringing up a family and all that as paying for is why i set up the scenerio
i do have morals too you know
hisandhers nice to see you around hope you are coping well.
What......And I dont
LOL, Thanks for all your comments guys and girls....I have shown my mate this thread and she sees now that swinging is a hobby, much the same as paying for a gym membership....in fact I may have gotten SH a new member :twisted:
All your opinions were very much appreciated, and have helped her see from a more understanding perspective.
All your opinions were very much appreciated, and have helped her see from a more understanding perspective.
The convention for 'dating' in America is usually that all costs are paid for by the man. in some cases this can become quite expensive.
An occasional bonk with a working girl is usually cheaper than a date. As a date often incurs expenditures from both parties, be it a meal, things to do etc.
However a successful partnership of true love and lifelong sex is ultimately the most cost effective.
An occasional bonk with a working girl is usually cheaper than a date. As a date often incurs expenditures from both parties, be it a meal, things to do etc.
However a successful partnership of true love and lifelong sex is ultimately the most cost effective.
Quote by Phuckers
figure this out two married guys went to american for three months on work assignment,on their first nightout one met a girl(clubber) and the other picked up a hooker...after the three months who will have paid more for sex?????
oh, I love hypotheticals...
well hypothetical man one:- Took 'clubber' out and prepared a picnic at the park for their first date. He realised that she was very independent and wanted to treat him so she then took him to a major theme park and then hypothetically paid for a few nights away for them both. He returned the favour by taking her out for dinner and a quiet walk in the park... this went on for the whole month and they had a lovely time together knowing that each wouldn't see each ever again when he returned to his home and family.
man two. He paid for the sex worker to accompany him to his lodgings/hotel every night for a week. She became bored with both his performance and his attitude towards her as a sex worker and as a human being. She fucked him off and enjoyed the company more of man 1 and his 'clubber and they regularly had threesomes.
errmmmmm yeah. I think that works.
Do I win ?
Sex God
Quote by splendid_
figure this out two married guys went to american for three months on work assignment,on their first nightout one met a girl(clubber) and the other picked up a hooker...after the three months who will have paid more for sex?????
oh, I love hypotheticals...
well hypothetical man one:- Took 'clubber' out and prepared a picnic at the park for their first date. He realised that she was very independent and wanted to treat him so she then took him to a major theme park and then hypothetically paid for a few nights away for them both. He returned the favour by taking her out for dinner and a quiet walk in the park... this went on for the whole month and they had a lovely time together knowing that each wouldn't see each ever again when he returned to his home and family.
man two. He paid for the sex worker to accompany him to his lodgings/hotel every night for a week. She became bored with both his performance and his attitude towards her as a sex worker and as a human being. She fucked him off and enjoyed the company more of man 1 and his 'clubber and they regularly had threesomes.
errmmmmm yeah. I think that works.
Do I win ?
Yes....
Wanna claim your prize :rascal:
Sex God
Quote by splendid_
Yes....
Wanna claim your prize :rascal:
is it out of your lucky bag again ? :twisted:
I'd like to think of it more as beingyour lucky bag ;-)
Whilst not wishing to enter into the debate of those who pay for sex (prostitutes / escorts etc), I would like to offer a consideration that if someone paying for sex reduces the amount of rapes / indecent assaults by one then surely it should not be condemmed out of hand ??
As I said, just my opinion.
As I said, just my opinion.
Sex God
Quote by rcsepel
Whilst not wishing to enter into the debate of those who pay for sex (prostitutes / escorts etc), I would like to offer a consideration that if someone paying for sex reduces the amount of rapes / indecent assaults by one then surely it should not be condemmed out of hand ??
As I said, just my opinion.
I don't think anyone is condemning prostitution - it's the fact that Bone's mate equated swinging with prostitution that is being discussed.
Quote by rcsepel
Whilst not wishing to enter into the debate of those who pay for sex (prostitutes / escorts etc), I would like to offer a consideration that if someone paying for sex reduces the amount of rapes / indecent assaults by one then surely it should not be condemmed out of hand ??
As I said, just my opinion.
ahhh the old ' is about sexually deprived men' thing. Let me tell you that is about power. is about control. is about violence.
Please read up about sensitive subjects like that before you post crap.
If sex was anything to do with then how come 'Steve Wright' murdered 5 prostitutes in Ipswich. Was he actually making a stand against the raise in blowjob prices in the local area ?
and yes, it is your opinion. But get out of the feckin dark ages. It is light over here and you can see things more clearly.
Quote by splendid_
Whilst not wishing to enter into the debate of those who pay for sex (prostitutes / escorts etc), I would like to offer a consideration that if someone paying for sex reduces the amount of rapes / indecent assaults by one then surely it should not be condemmed out of hand ??
As I said, just my opinion.
ahhh the old ' is about sexually deprived men' thing. Let me tell you that is about power. is about control. is about violence.
Please read up about sensitive subjects like that before you post crap.
If sex was anything to do with then how come 'Steve Wright' murdered 5 prostitutes in Ipswich. Was he actually making a stand against the raise in blowjob prices in the local area ?
and yes, it is your opinion. But get out of the feckin dark ages. It is light over here and you can see things more clearly.
Blimey Spledid, mince those words!
Quote by winchwench
Whilst not wishing to enter into the debate of those who pay for sex (prostitutes / escorts etc), I would like to offer a consideration that if someone paying for sex reduces the amount of rapes / indecent assaults by one then surely it should not be condemmed out of hand ??
As I said, just my opinion.
ahhh the old ' is about sexually deprived men' thing. Let me tell you that is about power. is about control. is about violence.
Please read up about sensitive subjects like that before you post crap.
If sex was anything to do with then how come 'Steve Wright' murdered 5 prostitutes in Ipswich. Was he actually making a stand against the raise in blowjob prices in the local area ?
and yes, it is your opinion. But get out of the feckin dark ages. It is light over here and you can see things more clearly.
Blimey Spledid, mince those words!
was I harsh ??? it must be because I haven't had sex for at least 12 hours. It makes me want to hurt someone :roll:
Quote by splendid_
figure this out two married guys went to american for three months on work assignment,on their first nightout one met a girl(clubber) and the other picked up a hooker...after the three months who will have paid more for sex?????
oh, I love hypotheticals...
well hypothetical man one:- Took 'clubber' out and prepared a picnic at the park for their first date. He realised that she was very independent and wanted to treat him so she then took him to a major theme park and then hypothetically paid for a few nights away for them both. He returned the favour by taking
her out for dinner and a quiet walk in the park... this went on for the whole month and they had a lovely time together knowing that each wouldn't see each ever again when he returned to his home and family.
man two. He paid for the sex worker to accompany him to his lodgings/hotel every night for a week. She became bored with both his performance and his attitude towards her as a sex worker and as a human being. She fucked him off and enjoyed the company more of man 1 and his 'clubber and they regularly had threesomes.
errmmmmm yeah. I think that works.
Do I win ?
steve you be the judge again please
man one ...with the decent high flying independent career woman,spends quality time going to expensive meals out,watching movies,jazz and what notes..spends his weekend shopping and doing what normal couples do...well he spends money but the big question is how much after 3months
man two...this hero is not restricted to one woman he can change daily if he wishes to,he is independent on his out of work time,doesnt have to compromises his hobbies with anyone spends time at the weekend shopping for his family and he can answer his mobile most of the time
steve the ball is back in your court..
oh did i tell you i know someone who get a 50% discount from a hooker,his that good
Sex God
Quote by Phuckers
Does he only have half a penis?
the opposite actually his so big and good the hooker even enjoys it and cum too...
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: sorry but I just don't have the words to respond to this right now......:rotflmao:
Splendid responded to my posting in an aggressive manner telling me that is all about power, I agree it is quite often (BUT NOT ALWAYS !!)
He / she states that I should "read up on a subject before posting crap", I have read about the subject & have also spent 26 years working with rapists & sex offenders, many of whom categorically deny it being a power issue but will admit openly that they felt like sex & took it much like a thief takes property because they want it (or is that a power issue also ??)
In closing, thanks for making my first posting so pleasant, don't think I'll bother again if this is indicative of the forum !!
He / she states that I should "read up on a subject before posting crap", I have read about the subject & have also spent 26 years working with rapists & sex offenders, many of whom categorically deny it being a power issue but will admit openly that they felt like sex & took it much like a thief takes property because they want it (or is that a power issue also ??)
In closing, thanks for making my first posting so pleasant, don't think I'll bother again if this is indicative of the forum !!
Sex God
Quote by rcsepel
Splendid responded to my posting in an aggressive manner telling me that is all about power, I agree it is quite often (BUT NOT ALWAYS !!)
He / she states that I should "read up on a subject before posting crap", I have read about the subject & have also spent 26 years working with rapists & sex offenders, many of whom categorically deny it being a power issue but will admit openly that they felt like sex & took it much like a thief takes property because they want it (or is that a power issue also ??)
In closing, thanks for making my first posting so pleasant, don't think I'll bother again if this is indicative of the forum !!
You posted something that was contentious (and off topic, if you'd read the thread) - do you expect people not to respond? Wind your neck in! If you can't deal with a negative response occasionally you'd probably be better off staying out
Sex God
Quote by rcsepel
If my posting was "off topic" I accept that criticism,
However, I thought forums were for your own opinion, I didn't realise that it had to conform with opinions like yours,
"Wind your neck in" & "you'd probably be better off sstaying out ??" - Who died & made you God ??
Then accept Splendid's opinion, without being mardy and threatening to not post. It wasn't my opinion you were questioning; I didn't say yours had to conform to mine, did I?
Wind your neck in, is about you not getting so mardy. Staying out would probably be better if you can't accept that some, as Splendid, will have differing opinions to your own. I'm certainly not alone in thinking that.
Sex God
Quote by rcsepel
Splendid responded to my posting in an aggressive manner telling me that is all about power, I agree it is quite often (BUT NOT ALWAYS !!)
He / she states that I should "read up on a subject before posting crap", I have read about the subject & have also spent 26 years working with rapists & sex offenders, many of whom categorically deny it being a power issue but will admit openly that they felt like sex & took it much like a thief takes property because they want it (or is that a power issue also ??)
In closing, thanks for making my first posting so pleasant, don't think I'll bother again if this is indicative of the forum !!
welcome to the site rcsepel. I didn't want to do this here however I feel I must. Yes, you may have worked with rapists for all these years but have you ever worked with the victims?
I was at the age of 19yrs as I was walking home from work at tea time. I was pulled over a wall & visciously with a knife at my throat. You have to admit that this was all about power. He chose to attack me & he chose how violent he was with me. If anyone has no control about what is happening to them then isn't that power? is not just about sex hun.
In my opinion.
Quote by hisandhers
Splendid responded to my posting in an aggressive manner telling me that is all about power, I agree it is quite often (BUT NOT ALWAYS !!)
He / she states that I should "read up on a subject before posting crap", I have read about the subject & have also spent 26 years working with rapists & sex offenders, many of whom categorically deny it being a power issue but will admit openly that they felt like sex & took it much like a thief takes property because they want it (or is that a power issue also ??)
In closing, thanks for making my first posting so pleasant, don't think I'll bother again if this is indicative of the forum !!
welcome to the site rcsepel. I didn't want to do this here however I feel I must. Yes, you may have worked with rapists for all these years but have you ever worked with the victims?
I was at the age of 19yrs as I was walking home from work at tea time. I was pulled over a wall & visciously with a knife at my throat. You have to admit that this was all about power. He chose to attack me & he chose how violent he was with me. If anyone has no control about what is happening to them then isn't that power? is not just about sex hun.
In my opinion.
Not about power then? Really?
BTW- welcome to the forum.
Sex God
Quote by duncanlondon
The convention for 'dating' in America is usually that all costs are paid for by the man. in some cases this can become quite expensive.
B*llocks... when I lived there I got seriously shafted then - financially! - I dated lots, and for the most part we shared costs, or alternated.... bugger! :shock: Hate to feel hard done by!!
p.s. still, I enjoyed the non-financial shafting at least!! :twisted:
Quote by Bonedigger
My (very bestest and dearest) vanilla friend and I weree discussuing swinging the other night over a bottle (or three) of el Vino Collapso, and got onto the subject of paying for sex.
I said thats not something I would ever consider (prostitutes /escorts/gigolos) and neither would Mr B.
She said that in effect we paid for sex when we swung (swang, swinged??) so it made us (almost) the same as those who chose to pay for prostitutes.
When I asked her to clarify, she said that because of the extra sexy lingerie, love toys, clothes, shoes, meals, drinks, hotels etc that we shelled out for, thatb we wouldnt necessarily have bought, in essence that was us paying to have sex with other people.
I must admit I was a little taken aback by her opinions, and thought that maybe because she was vanilla then she didnt quite 'get' the lifestyle. But like I said shes one of my bestest mates and I love her to bits, differences and all)
What are your thoughts on her opinions?
i think their's a diffarence between a swinger and someone who use's a swingers site for sex, in a way i agree because i have met some men and because they have taken you out for a drink they expect sex and look quite taken back when i have said no, to me thats someone who uses swinging site for sex, where as i know lots of swingers who are happy to go for drinks etc and expect nothing back in return, personally i don't buy new undies for guys i meet i buy new undies for me and if they lucky the guys i meet will get to see me in them ;)
Quote by winchwench
Splendid responded to my posting in an aggressive manner telling me that is all about power, I agree it is quite often (BUT NOT ALWAYS !!)
He / she states that I should "read up on a subject before posting crap", I have read about the subject & have also spent 26 years working with rapists & sex offenders, many of whom categorically deny it being a power issue but will admit openly that they felt like sex & took it much like a thief takes property because they want it (or is that a power issue also ??)
In closing, thanks for making my first posting so pleasant, don't think I'll bother again if this is indicative of the forum !!
Not about power then? Really?
BTW- welcome to the forum.
I agree with Winchy.
I couldn't care less how long you have worked with Rapists. You can post your full work/personal CV on here for me to peruse and I STILL wouldn't care less.
In justifying your opinion you actually proved mine.
Someone can not TAKE anything without power. If you don't understand that you will understanding nothing else that I say, I shall make it simple.
I AM right.
oh, and thanks again FB
rcesple- everyone is entitled to their opinion and I wasn't sure if you wanted me to sugar coat mine to make it appeal to your delicate sensibilities. But if you have really worked with Rapists for however long then you don't need words mincing for you. If you can't stand the heat then really, get out of the kitchen. Don't touch on a tough subject and expect cross stitch and knitting in return.
Quote by rcsepel
Whilst not wishing to enter into the debate of those who pay for sex (prostitutes / escorts etc), I would like to offer a consideration that if someone paying for sex reduces the amount of rapes / indecent assaults by one then surely it should not be condemmed out of hand ??
As I said, just my opinion.
how can you say an opinion is 'off topic',whats the point of forum i wonder
even a referee's decision is just an opinion
Sex God
Quote by Phuckers
Whilst not wishing to enter into the debate of those who pay for sex (prostitutes / escorts etc), I would like to offer a consideration that if someone paying for sex reduces the amount of rapes / indecent assaults by one then surely it should not be condemmed out of hand ??
As I said, just my opinion.
how can you say an opinion is 'off topic',whats the point of forum i wonder
even a referee's decision is just an opinion
The opinion wasn't relevant to the question asked by the OP. It was about .
Quote by poshkate
Does he only have half a penis?
the opposite actually his so big and good the hooker even enjoys it and cum too...
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: sorry but I just don't have the words to respond to this right now......:rotflmao:
ahhh I hear of those prostitutes all the time, you know the ones who actually take great pleasure from having sex with a complete stranger.
I also know how important it is to have a big cock. the issue in my opinion is if the cock is on the forehead .
Kate, what the hell do you know eh ? :roll:
