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Post counts, Ranks, and life on the forum
Sex God
My view:
Post count - fine.
Ranking - naff.
I look at my own post count mostly to remind myself that there's work piling up and I really need to spend less time faffing about on the computer.
I've never liked ranking systems because in my opinion they encourage posting for the sake of it, and you end up with a page full of smileys because nobody has anything to say, but maybe that's the point.
The ranking is a "User title" which can be anything, but on most boards it is pre-set. I know of a few forums where they can be customised by the user, but on most the facility is disabled and I've never quite understood why.
In my view there are two possible problems with titles like "Superhuman" and "Godlike"
1. Some posters genuinely believe it makes you more important than people who have posted less.
2. Newcomers could be intimidated by what appears to be elitism.
Having said all that, I think most people on here are intelligent enough not to take it remotely seriously.
I said most! :shock:
Ice
Post count - fine.
Ranking - naff.
I look at my own post count mostly to remind myself that there's work piling up and I really need to spend less time faffing about on the computer.
I've never liked ranking systems because in my opinion they encourage posting for the sake of it, and you end up with a page full of smileys because nobody has anything to say, but maybe that's the point.
The ranking is a "User title" which can be anything, but on most boards it is pre-set. I know of a few forums where they can be customised by the user, but on most the facility is disabled and I've never quite understood why.
In my view there are two possible problems with titles like "Superhuman" and "Godlike"
1. Some posters genuinely believe it makes you more important than people who have posted less.
2. Newcomers could be intimidated by what appears to be elitism.
Having said all that, I think most people on here are intelligent enough not to take it remotely seriously.
I said most! :shock:
Ice
I look at the number of posts as a measure of how much time people are putting in to the forum no more no with massive post counts have accumulated them not because they chase post counts but because they have become loved and well respected members of the site and are popularly referred to on many threads.I dont therefore see a problem with the current system.
Some people seem to attach more importance than I do to post counts ..I have no issue with that. I will even join in congratulating people on post counts but only if I respect and enjoy their contributions and usually only at major intervals.
Dawn's comments said it all and so eloquently I will deferr to her greater communication skills.I found myself agreeing with all she said....clever sod.
We all make our assessments on the basis of the quality of posts anyway and not the quantity. So for me leave it as it is
Some people seem to attach more importance than I do to post counts ..I have no issue with that. I will even join in congratulating people on post counts but only if I respect and enjoy their contributions and usually only at major intervals.
Dawn's comments said it all and so eloquently I will deferr to her greater communication skills.I found myself agreeing with all she said....clever sod.
We all make our assessments on the basis of the quality of posts anyway and not the quantity. So for me leave it as it is
Sex God
Quote by Jags
JAGS SLAP
Please don't hijack this thread.. Mark is trying to resolve this issue!!
Thanks
:P :P
Who are you slapping and why?
What hijack?
I cannot find one single off-topic post in this thread. Until yours that is.
Sex God
Quote by tallnhairy
Now I can post 500 posts in my first month, but I will still only go up one level. I would still need to post 100 posts next month to go another level. Also I don’t have to worry about hitting 100 posts by end of month to level, as I can easily do them next month and I would level as soon as I hit that 100 (As the 30 days rule already satisfied). This prevents posting to reach a level, and means rankings give an impression of not just post count, but also time on the site, combining the 2 things people say they are interested in. Equally although I wont be penalised for not posting I wont go up in rankings by lurking only and do first post as godlike.
I had a similar idea a few months ago HERE, combining post count with seniority. I think it would make more sense for length of membership to be taken into account, but having said that, I've gone off the idea of rankings since I posted that. I would just say that if rankings are to be preserved, then post count alone isn't a good criterion in my opinion.
I doubt the feasibility of either your proposed system or mine. They would take some pretty fancy hacking of the code.
Ice
Sex God
Quote by Mark
2) Alex, there is a hack for this forum called Karma hack that (I THINK!) does something like that. Users can give other users Karma points based on their posts.
:shock: now that scares me
it's a nice idea, if it works as intended, but how many of us would really want to be constantly judged and ranked like that? would the solution make it worse?n x x x x ;-)
it's just a thought, and probably a bad one, but how about a user registers first, and gets the benefits of being registered, but has a cooling off thing before they can activate to post, so they have time to get a feel for the place before trying to possibly hastily include themselves? it doesn't have to be long?
Quote by neilinleeds
2) Alex, there is a hack for this forum called Karma hack that (I THINK!) does something like that. Users can give other users Karma points based on their posts.
:shock: now that scares me
it's a nice idea, if it works as intended, but how many of us would really want to be constantly judged and ranked like that? would the solution make it worse?n x x x x ;-)
Neil - it's not looked upon as judging - certainly I never view it that way - more like getting a star for something (eg you for your FFS's, Tune for his Bollox (hmmmm did I really mean that), Kink for his animations, Davej for making us laugh, Judy for her faultless wisdom etc etc etc).
It was only a thought though - I think the way things are now, is fine.
Quote by VenusnMars
Whilst we are batting ideas around, how about a `sticky` joke thread. Saves people like me seaching for an existing one, and might encourage others to post on the one thread.
Venusxxx
I think we've had that before Venus - not that long ago - not sure what happened to it
Mod
Quote by VenusnMars
Tried and ignored.
Oh well, I tried!
Venusxxx
Who said that? :shock:
Sex God
alex, mark i see . . . .
i've just had a look and see what you mean!
<<< goes into chin scratching mode for a bit . . . . hhhhmmmmmmmm >>>
n x x x x x ;-)
i've just had a look and see what you mean!
<<< goes into chin scratching mode for a bit . . . . hhhhmmmmmmmm >>>
n x x x x x ;-)
Quote by Jags
Tried and ignored.
Oh well, I tried!
Venusxxx
Who said that? :shock:
Ignored??? Thought I replied... is it lost??
Lol. I meant the idea, the idea has been tried and ignored in the past
But I`m nothing if not trying :D .
Wait til Mars finds out I can`t find our bank card now :shock:
Venusxxx
Mod
Looks like a complicated system and an increased workload and responsibility. I personally (mod hat off) prefer the counter to be available, either on their profile or on their posts. Not too bothered at all about the titles
Mal
and Little Mal (who agrees with me!)
Mal
and Little Mal (who agrees with me!)
Quote by neilinleeds
alex, mark i see . . . .
i've just had a look here and see what you mean!
<<< goes into chin scratching mode for a bit . . . . hhhhmmmmmmmm >>>
n x x x x x ;-)
Absolutely NOT!! God, can you imagine if one of us gave points to XXXX but not to YYYY - the wars it would bring about - worse than the 100 years war (which didn't last 100 yearsBTW) and so divisive! NO......
:x 
Sex God
Quote by neilinleeds
easy, where did you drag that up from. never seen it before, and AK ain't about so much, but
The thread Mark linked to in his first post.
Quote by neilinleeds
post counts mean nowt in themselves, and are pretty redundant. some people say more in 100 posts than i'll ever have to say in 1000's, but like mark says, if it ain't broke don't fix it. still, generally speaking, i think they have a use. ((( these fences ain't very comfy are they??? )))
neil x x x x ;-)
There is a theory that says evolve or die. I can't help but wonder if, as forum technology and style moves on, if SH remains the same then it will just be inhabited by Luddites who fear all change, simply because it looks like an old site and newbies won't be interested.
On the other hand, for the regulars, familiarity is very comforting and we can navigate our way around very easily.
Mark I'll answer your question with a question...
Why did you open another chat-room when you had the beta one?
Oh and Neil. I find that with a hammer, some nails and a couple of lengths os 3x2 you can balance a nice, comfy armchair on the fence as well.
*goes off to work on getting the TV on the fence* (and awaits Judy jokes)
Hmm, dont like joke threads that stay around, far more fun to have jokes and lot of silly replies... Breaks up seriousness a bit, but that me 
Single purpose threads designed to hoover up the small ones like jokes, or anything else really just end up too long. The GFZ by way of contrast is recreated each week, always fresh, and it works...
Maybe if we had a weekly joke thread like the GFZ, complete with the replies that could work?? Lock it out each week with the GFZ and create one for the following week. Ok not every comical thing will end up in there (being a free board n all) but it more likely to remain fresh and in use... Just an idea.
Single purpose threads designed to hoover up the small ones like jokes, or anything else really just end up too long. The GFZ by way of contrast is recreated each week, always fresh, and it works...
Maybe if we had a weekly joke thread like the GFZ, complete with the replies that could work?? Lock it out each week with the GFZ and create one for the following week. Ok not every comical thing will end up in there (being a free board n all) but it more likely to remain fresh and in use... Just an idea.
Sex God
Quote by Jags
alex, mark i see . . . .
i've just had a look here and see what you mean!
<<< goes into chin scratching mode for a bit . . . . hhhhmmmmmmmm >>>
n x x x x x ;-)
Absolutely NOT!! God, can you imagine if one of us gave points to XXXX but not to YYYY - the wars it would bring about - worse than the 100 years war (which didn't last 100 yearsBTW) and so divisive! NO......
:xthat was my first thought, which is why i was scared of the very idea . . . but looking at that it's an automated ranking thing that looks at site involvement, and how much that involvement is respected???? ((( threads / replies / views etc ))) without the mods having to be involved!!!
i'm really not sure about it, but i thought it was an interesting idea. i'm not sure about the entire ranking thing really, but my first thought remains, that karma's even more open to abuse, postcounting and cliqueness??? i really dunno on that one???
neil x x x x ;-)
Sex God
Yeah you say that Judy, but if a bronzed Adonis offered you'd be up there like a shot. :P
Sex God
I'm happy to let the Mods, Admins and ones with super human powers or god like, decide on this one, they have more experience / input / understanding than I do......
But then how do I know who these people are.... I could get an idea by looking at their post count, length of time on here, etc!!!
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But then how do I know who these people are.... I could get an idea by looking at their post count, length of time on here, etc!!!
vous comprenez ma signification
I like the idea in concept of karma type points, how useful it could prove in some ways, but I agree in practice it could be a nightmare to administer, and lead to more isolation and hurt feelings. Look how much fun ebay have with their ranking system, and needing arbitration to keep it going, sure the mods dont want that level of hassle...
However a few little toys here and there, the odd new feature wont hurt a bit, even if on trial (sorry Mark, encouraging you to play again, hehe) I have a couple of other ideas to throw into the pot:
Sunset time for posts:
As in the same way that we currently lose photo adds over 90 days, maybe after some period old posts should sunset as well. It is great to be able to run back through all the posts (although few people have the time) but there are also foo pars in there it might be nice to escape.
Currently a previous search takes in everything since the inception of the board, fairly overwhelming if you want to see if you have a new thread to post. If we set this to 90 days then when searching you would have less to trawl through to see if this had been discussed before. Yes you would end up redoing old post ideas, but after 3 months you will have new members, and maybe new ideas and it wouldn't hurt to reread. Maybe the old posts could be moved to a mods forum so they have the resources to pull some choice quotes out of the past...
Boring Board:
Ok I like the SH look and feel, but browsing at work (or home with kids) is difficult. Any chance of a 'Boring Board' on another url (which also hides what you reading). Same content behind but with plain front end. Obviously this would lead to an advertising loss, but I would be happy to compensate for that to have access.
Hide avitar feature:
Similar to the boring board, an option to hide users avitars (which look great but often at work can need a quick scroll past)
SH Email:
You mentioned this, sounds interesting and would avoid me having to have a for here.
Verified users:
I had another more contriversial thought, maybe you could charge a minimal fee for email, this would give a level of adult / person verification. Then you could hide images from users without an SH email account. Everything remains free, you can still add adds, search and everything else, but without knowing who you are you cant view peoples pictures. May make people feel a little more secure in posting pics, as only verified users could see them.
This also eliminates kids access issues but doesn't stop free site use. You could still browse all adds (textually) and the forums without ever paying a penny. You could still post adds, and you once in touch could still email each other pics. It just adds a level of protection to the open pics on the site (and makes it harder for newspapers to say we have open hardcore porn here even though we have every anti kid device installed already)
Um, standing well back from those ideas, just letting brain free wheel, to echo some other users, I love this site, I hope to post for a long time here and stay in touch with friends I have made through here, these are just ideas as you asked for em (you mad impetuous fool you ;) ) It ain't broke, it is still great and my spelling worse as I have no spellcheck on the work browsers...
However a few little toys here and there, the odd new feature wont hurt a bit, even if on trial (sorry Mark, encouraging you to play again, hehe) I have a couple of other ideas to throw into the pot:
Sunset time for posts:
As in the same way that we currently lose photo adds over 90 days, maybe after some period old posts should sunset as well. It is great to be able to run back through all the posts (although few people have the time) but there are also foo pars in there it might be nice to escape.
Currently a previous search takes in everything since the inception of the board, fairly overwhelming if you want to see if you have a new thread to post. If we set this to 90 days then when searching you would have less to trawl through to see if this had been discussed before. Yes you would end up redoing old post ideas, but after 3 months you will have new members, and maybe new ideas and it wouldn't hurt to reread. Maybe the old posts could be moved to a mods forum so they have the resources to pull some choice quotes out of the past...
Boring Board:
Ok I like the SH look and feel, but browsing at work (or home with kids) is difficult. Any chance of a 'Boring Board' on another url (which also hides what you reading). Same content behind but with plain front end. Obviously this would lead to an advertising loss, but I would be happy to compensate for that to have access.
Hide avitar feature:
Similar to the boring board, an option to hide users avitars (which look great but often at work can need a quick scroll past)
SH Email:
You mentioned this, sounds interesting and would avoid me having to have a for here.
Verified users:
I had another more contriversial thought, maybe you could charge a minimal fee for email, this would give a level of adult / person verification. Then you could hide images from users without an SH email account. Everything remains free, you can still add adds, search and everything else, but without knowing who you are you cant view peoples pictures. May make people feel a little more secure in posting pics, as only verified users could see them.
This also eliminates kids access issues but doesn't stop free site use. You could still browse all adds (textually) and the forums without ever paying a penny. You could still post adds, and you once in touch could still email each other pics. It just adds a level of protection to the open pics on the site (and makes it harder for newspapers to say we have open hardcore porn here even though we have every anti kid device installed already)
Um, standing well back from those ideas, just letting brain free wheel, to echo some other users, I love this site, I hope to post for a long time here and stay in touch with friends I have made through here, these are just ideas as you asked for em (you mad impetuous fool you ;) ) It ain't broke, it is still great
and my spelling worse as I have no spellcheck on the work browsers... 
ops: :oops: 
:evil: Can't find the hard core porn though I live in hope!! 
Sex God
i have a feeling that all this "karma" stuff will be considered to be a good idea untill it actually got going, once favouratism set in.. and was blatantly obvious from the numbers of points people were given the novelty would soon wear off!
i feel that it would end up being a lot more elitist than the current post count system,, after all- the amount of posts u have is the amount of posts u have made... the amount of points you were given would to some extent depend on who you knew!
thats just my opinion anyway.
i feel that it would end up being a lot more elitist than the current post count system,, after all- the amount of posts u have is the amount of posts u have made... the amount of points you were given would to some extent depend on who you knew!
thats just my opinion anyway.
Mark, (and everyone else... )
Just my little bit....
I don't see the point in having post counts, bars, or any other post or time-related info on the posts - surely the point of a forum is the information contained in the post - does it really matter how many posts someone has contributed in the past - for example, I might've posted 14,000 previous posts, and then one day I might be drunk or a bit over-emotional or just having a bad day and post some really bad advice or something. The number of posts I've got has nothing to do with the quality of information I'm trying to convey, does it?
So why do we need any indicators? I can see it as a bit of fun, reaching the milestones, etc, but what difference does it really make???
Similarly, the date I joined SH is actually a lot later than the date I started lurking - speaking as an inveterate lurker (unless forced to join, as I was) - The date I joined is the date Mark stopped letting guests see the icons at the bottom of the posts, that's all - it doesn't really indicate the amount of experience I've got in the swinging world, the amount of insight I have into the human condition, etc, etc.
I can understand people wanting to see the joining date, so that the can cut someone a bit of slack if they're new, but shouldn't we just cut people slack anyway? As above, someone posting might just be having an 'off-day' or maybe haven't fully thought out the ramifications of what they're saying before thay hit that 'Submit' button!
Anyway - that's just my couple of 'p'-worth
:yinyang:
)Just my little bit....
I don't see the point in having post counts, bars, or any other post or time-related info on the posts - surely the point of a forum is the information contained in the post - does it really matter how many posts someone has contributed in the past - for example, I might've posted 14,000 previous posts, and then one day I might be drunk or a bit over-emotional or just having a bad day and post some really bad advice or something. The number of posts I've got has nothing to do with the quality of information I'm trying to convey, does it?
So why do we need any indicators? I can see it as a bit of fun, reaching the milestones, etc, but what difference does it really make???
Similarly, the date I joined SH is actually a lot later than the date I started lurking - speaking as an inveterate lurker (unless forced to join, as I was) - The date I joined is the date Mark stopped letting guests see the icons at the bottom of the posts, that's all - it doesn't really indicate the amount of experience I've got in the swinging world, the amount of insight I have into the human condition, etc, etc.
I can understand people wanting to see the joining date, so that the can cut someone a bit of slack if they're new, but shouldn't we just cut people slack anyway? As above, someone posting might just be having an 'off-day' or maybe haven't fully thought out the ramifications of what they're saying before thay hit that 'Submit' button!
Anyway - that's just my couple of 'p'-worth
:yinyang:
