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Ok, no fights! lol
I've just watched 5/5 of Andrew Marr's "A history of modern Britain". I've actually quite enjoyed it :lol:
He ended the programme stating "he was proud to be British".. and that got me thinking.
We've had many threads lately arguing about Government parties BUT if you take yourself back to Victorian times, slum housing, overcrowding, bad sanitation, housing shortage and child labour would we want to be back to that??
I started thinking, we've come a long way since those days but then I kind of thought, have we really? we've still got overcrowding in some families, we've still got housing shortage and we've still got areas of destitution, but overall we are far better living today than we were back then.
So, my question is, giving how far we have come, are you proud to be British?
I am.
This country is faaaaaaaar from perfect but there are a lot of places worse to live and so I am proud of my nationality yes :-)
I'm proud of being a cockney...... rolleyes
Quote by Steve
This country is faaaaaaaar from perfect but there are a lot of places worse to live and so I am proud of my nationality yes :-)

I think that's it in a nutshell, far far from perfect and probably never will be but when I think of my Grandparents and what they fought for etc., and looking back in history what HAS been gained, yes I guess I am proud.
Quote by markz
I'm proud of being a cockney...... rolleyes

Your just proud of your cock full stop! :roll:
lol
Quote by jaymar
I'm proud of being a cockney...... rolleyes

Your just proud of your cock full stop! :roll:
lol
well he does keep the hens in check........ :roll:
Quote by Freckledbird
I'm proud to be English biggrin

Here here, absolutely proud to be English too. :thumbup:
Quote by Freckledbird
I'm proud to be English biggrin

me too
I can't say I'm proud to be English, or British - not because I have any particular grievance, but just because...well to be proud to me, implies I've done something to help make it the way it is, and I haven't.
I'm glad to be British, yes, there are a lot worse places to live - but proud? No, I can't take any credit, so I feel I can't say I'm proud.
Quote by Freckledbird
I'm proud to be English biggrin

Well I'm proud to be Welsh and British too.
I'd go even further back than the Victorian era for the times when we can really be proud.
Magna Carta
The rule of Common Law
Our contribution to the renaissance (Good british word there!)
Modern Parliamentary democracy
All the castles the English built in Wales!! wink
The beat goes on. So many unnoticed pillars of our freedom and all some people can do is carp about it. rolleyes
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Quote by Freckledbird
I'm proud to be English biggrin

That is what I was going to say FB. I class myself as English,can we still say that? lol
Quote by kentswingers777
I'm proud to be English biggrin

That is what I was going to say FB. I class myself as English,can we still say that? lol
Of course. Why on earth not? We hear enough about celtic pride in these island, quite rightly so, and so why not english.
Speaking as a welshman I find so many 'english' things that are very attractive.
Stiff upper lip
Tea on the lawn
Elgar (well you know the english bit)
Beautiful rolling green countryside
Gritty forthright people who will not be pushed around
The Dales, the Downs, the Broads, the Peaks
The maritime spirit
plus a few of the british things I mentioned above
...and so much more.
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I'm English/British by dint of the majority of my immediate heritage, and place of birth
I'm also quite an amalgumn of other bits and bobs from verious places/lines.
Each of which I feel are very much a part of me.
This Sceptred Isle
Perfidious Albion?
yup...
I don't do pride... but hey... this is where I am, and this is where I'm from.
Don't f*ck with it.
lp
that was rather strong wasn't it? apologies
Very proud to be British. Our history is chequered with good and bad. But, I think we have contributed more to the world in the last 500 years than any other nation in science, agriculture, industrialisation and parliamentary democracy.
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Very proud to be British. Our history is chequered with good and bad. But, I think we have contributed more to the world in the last 500 years than any other nation in science, agriculture, industrialisation and parliamentary democracy.

very well said
and good thread too'
the British Army makes me proud,ill reserve the rest of my comment for personal reasons!
long live your HRH
In all honesty I can't say that I've ever understood the logic of national pride.
Quote by markz
I'm proud of being a cockney...... rolleyes

Shepherds Bush isn't in East London :roll:
No I can't say I'm proud to be British, or that if I were any other nationality, I would proud to be that one either. I've done and am things I am not proud of and I have done and am things I amproud of. I don't see myself as British, I just see myself as me and I try to be the best me I can.
Love
Fire xx
im definately proud of my heritage....
Quote by firelizard
No I can't say I'm proud to be British, or that if I were any other nationality, I would proud to be that one either. I've done and am things I am not proud of and I have done and am things I am proud of. I don't see myself as British, I just see myself as me and I try to be the best me I can.
Love
Fire xx

:thumbup: sums me up to,
Quote by TanKinky
No I can't say I'm proud to be British, or that if I were any other nationality, I would proud to be that one either. I've done and am things I am not proud of and I have done and am things I am proud of. I don't see myself as British, I just see myself as me and I try to be the best me I can.
Love
Fire xx

:thumbup: sums me up to,
Ok, so that's you both personally but what about everything that's been achieved over 100's of years? does that not make you proud to be here? lol
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No I can't say I'm proud to be British, or that if I were any other nationality, I would proud to be that one either. I've done and am things I am not proud of and I have done and am things I am proud of. I don't see myself as British, I just see myself as me and I try to be the best me I can.
Love
Fire xx

:thumbup: sums me up to,
Ok, so that's you both personally but what about everything that's been achieved over 100's of years? does that not make you proud to be here? lol
I think that some of the things that the people of this country have achieved over the years have been amazing, but then some of the things people have achieved the whole world over have been also. I think of myself as being "of the world" rather than "of Britain" if you see what I mean? I'm not proud to be British I'm just glad to "be"
Also I have French ancestry way back and Stormy has Swedish not too far back at all and I daresay there are huge amounts of British folk who have other ancestry too so if we were going to be proud of being British it would be like not being proud of the other bits of us maybe??
Good thread this Mar :thumbup:
Quote by firelizard
No I can't say I'm proud to be British, or that if I were any other nationality, I would proud to be that one either. I've done and am things I am not proud of and I have done and am things I am proud of. I don't see myself as British, I just see myself as me and I try to be the best me I can.
Love
Fire xx

:thumbup: sums me up to,
Ok, so that's you both personally but what about everything that's been achieved over 100's of years? does that not make you proud to be here? lol
I think that some of the things that the people of this country have achieved over the years have been amazing, but then some of the things people have achieved the whole world over have been also. I think of myself as being "of the world" rather than "of Britain" if you see what I mean? I'm not proud to be British I'm just glad to "be"
Also I have French ancestry way back and Stormy has Swedish not too far back at all and I daresay there are huge amounts of British folk who have other ancestry too so if we were going to be proud of being British it would be like not being proud of the other bits of us maybe??
Good thread this Mar :thumbup:
Thankyou :lol: maybe that's the key word I should be looking at, "glad to be".
I'd actually not thought about the ancestory slant, we cold have allsorts in us when you think about it! cool
Ahhh but Im not "glad to be" British either...I'm just glad to "be" the be being the operative word. I'm really not bothered about whether I'm British, French, Spanish or whatever. To me my nationality is just something I "happen" to be rather than anything I want or am proud or glad of. kiss
What a question well I would say I'm proud to be british but britain not as it is now.
Food is up, petrol is up, well the whole cost of living has gone up but our wages are still not enough to keep up with the prices going up, the fact that we let every low life from other countrys (the ones that want to work are great but there are so many that come over and don't work) and after listening to the news when it said MPs will have a f**king pay rise (which is not fair) so I'm proud of what britain use to be.
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No I can't say I'm proud to be British, or that if I were any other nationality, I would proud to be that one either. I've done and am things I am not proud of and I have done and am things I am proud of. I don't see myself as British, I just see myself as me and I try to be the best me I can.
Love
Fire xx

:thumbup: sums me up to,
Ok, so that's you both personally but what about everything that's been achieved over 100's of years? does that not make you proud to be here? lol
To me its just another label that can be used against you in a good or bad way!, I am what i am like fire said nationality or anything else is irrelavent (sp. I would say im proud of those people in the past who campaigned and made any country a better place to be!
Quote by TanKinky
No I can't say I'm proud to be British, or that if I were any other nationality, I would proud to be that one either. I've done and am things I am not proud of and I have done and am things I am proud of. I don't see myself as British, I just see myself as me and I try to be the best me I can.
Love
Fire xx

:thumbup: sums me up to,
Ok, so that's you both personally but what about everything that's been achieved over 100's of years? does that not make you proud to be here? lol
To me its just another label that can be used against you in a good or bad way!, I am what i am like fire said nationality or anything else is irrelavent (sp. I would say im proud of those people in the past who campaigned and made any country a better place to be!
I was just asking if you were proud of what has been done over the years not picking at your reply.
Is it just me or is there something in the air tonight??
There does seem to be something in the air this weekend Mar but not in this thread :thumbup:
Tan just forgot to put your kiss at the end of her post. Didn't ya Tan :giggle:
Jaymar wrote:
Is it just me or is there something in the air tonight??

Possibly dunno

wink