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Pseudo modding – what do Mods think?

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Quote by peenut
indeed. I am sure many people who enforce the law would see the problems every day.
but the law must apply to all. for example to the shoplifter who knows its wrong....to the forgetful old lady who slips that tin into a bag and leaves without paying !

The law certainly needs to "apply to all" - but do you not see the need of discretionary choice ?
Most laws, and transgressions, (imo) need to have common sense, and reality applied to their "enforcement"
Although - I do think we're wandering off the point slightly wink
Come on – I didn’t post this analogy for the fun of it!
Quote by PoloLady
Here is a thought............
Some guy on his first day in a new job chains his bike to what appears to be a thing for chaining your bike to.
Some of the longer standing employees look at where he has chained his bike and snigger to themselves, but say nothing to the new recruit so as not to embarrass him.
Joe Pseudo Bloggs comes around the corner and shouts out " I take it you want to catch the bus home tonight" (note it is a one-line sarcastic-style comment)
The new recruit replied "it wasn't my intention"
Joe adds "well I should have some change ready just in case if you leave you bike there all day"
At this point Jimmy Wannabe comes along and chuckles "Joe is right - every bike that has ever been left on that bar has been swiped by lunchtime - try taking it round by the MD's car nearer the security cameras"
Now then.... who was the greater help Joe or the employees who said bob-diddly squat?
Quote by PoloLady
Now then.... who was the greater help Joe or the employees who said bob-diddly squat?

With no other information, or history of the people involved . . . .
I would say Joe Pseudo Bloggs is an arrogant arse . . . .
The other employees could have helped a little more, but let's not forget the "somebody else will do it/I'm not getting involved" aspect. The "sniggering" part of it annoys the crap out of me.
Jimmy Wannabee had the better approach - imho
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Now then.... who was the greater help Joe or the employees who said bob-diddly squat?

With no other information, or history of the people involved . . . .
I would say Joe Pseudo Bloggs is an arrogant arse . . . .
The other employees could have helped a little more, but let's not forget the "somebody else will do it/I'm not getting involved" aspect. The "sniggering" part of it annoys the crap out of me.
Jimmy Wannabee had the better approach - imho
And my dear Dammy - you know that was not the question wink
ah! but then one is being open to corruption ! i shall turn a " blind eye" while probably being reasonable in the circumstances could lead to sombody else saying somthing like "well he said that an got away with it etc etc etc." but debate is a good thing, laws are amended changed... thats democracy.
Quote by PoloLady
And my dear Dammy - you know that was not the question wink

:sulking:
Ok - ok
From the very badly (or cleverly) framed question . . . .
Of the two options, I would have to agree that Joe was the most helpful . . . .
of the two.
wink
*Disclaimer
It's just that the "sniggering" part of it reminds me only too well of half a dozen wagon drivers standing, pointing and giggling at a newly qualified driver trying to reverse on a particularly difficult blind side angle.
Does this thread actually exist in reality ? Or is it merely brought to existence by its inability to simply cease to be ?
the reason it exists is because its not against the site rules....yet ! but if i had MY way..... rolleyes
Quote by Silk and Big G
Does this thread actually exist in reality ? Or is it merely brought to existence by its inability to simply cease to be ?


Do you mean with one of these >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>...

Phredd wink
It was good to see one newish member post on here and hear what they had to say. :thumbup:
For the most part, I think most 'advice' is given in a genuine spirit of helpfulness. Even if the newbie has done something that isn't strictly against the AUP (so there is no reason for a mod to step in) but is still generally frowned upon or, at least, not in the spirit of the forum, then most of the advice I have seen is something along the lines of "Hi and welcome, but we don't normally do that here. You might want to take some time to read more threads and then come back and try again." That seems to me just a little gentle help rather than anything heavy.
One important point that no-one has made yet is that it can often feel better for the newcomer to have been given friendly advice by another member than to have been 'modded' - however nicely it's done (and all the mods I know are wonderful people - and that's not meant as a grovel).
Most of us would rather be told not to park in a certain spot by a friendly local than by a passing police officer. One feels like friendly advice the other feels like a rap on the knuckles, even if both are done in the same tone of voice and without the threat of further action.
Will
Of course a rap on the knuckles is barely felt at all if you spend most of your day with them scraping along the ground ........................and we dont get many new members like that .............now do we ?
Quote by Silk and Big G
Of course a rap on the knuckles is barely felt at all if you spend most of your day with them scraping along the ground ........................and we dont get many new members like that .............now do we ?
lol lol lol
The point I was making - as I am sure you know only too well - is that advice can sometimes feel less like being told off if it doesn't come from 'authority' - however well meaning the 'authority' is being.
Will
Yeah we get yer point Will of course , but conversely advice from someone with no authority can seem condescending . Its a circular argument which is why up til you came along no one managed to get a serious comment from us on this thread .........damn you and your well turned phrase you evil monster :-)
Quote by Silk and Big G
Yeah we get yer point Will of course , but conversely advice from someone with no authority can seem condescending . Its a circular argument which is why up til you came along no one managed to get a serious comment from us on this thread .........damn you and your well turned phrase you evil monster :-)

But then again, the point of this thread was not really asking for any comment from you was it innocent
lol
Quote by PoloLady
I would be interested to hear what the mods think of ... for want of a better label.. pseudo modding?
Do you find it helps or hinders?
Does it make any difference at all?
Does it bother you as long as it doesn't go too far?
When is it right - when is it wrong?
Can it be harmless leg-pulling which can help break the ice or does it always build a wall?

My interprutation of psuedo modding might be a bit different from yours polo cos I havn't seen what I call psuedo modding for some months now, but
Do you find it helps or hinders?
For the most part it helps wether it be friendly advice or a swift kick in the nuts, the friendly advice eases things along, the swift kick might not look as pretty, but has a place.
Does it make any difference at all?
from my point of view yes and worth the occasional flare up when the advice/kick is clumsier or poorly recieved.
Does it bother you as long as it doesn't go too far?
occasionally when I see it (mainly in lets meet up) and its obvious that its just bitting at someones heels cos its a slow day or whatever, then I think WTF, but it don't eat me up dunno
When is it right - when is it wrong?
Can't answer that as its not as obvious as say ...when a thread is right for a hi-jack or when it is a clear no no for a hi-jack...but hey I've seen folk unable to make that obvious distinction so I guess trying to work out when its right or wrong is ...well dunno
Can it be harmless leg-pulling which can help break the ice or does it always build a wall?
both, but walls are usefull too.
Quote by PoloLady
Yeah we get yer point Will of course , but conversely advice from someone with no authority can seem condescending . Its a circular argument which is why up til you came along no one managed to get a serious comment from us on this thread .........damn you and your well turned phrase you evil monster :-)

But then again, the point of this thread was not really asking for any comment from you was it innocent lol
Now I read it I realise that is true , but then of course if it wasnt asking a question of the members perhaps its posted in the wrong place . Youre right though on reflection it appears to be a question directed at the 'Mods' in a pseudo Mod tone although Im not accusing you of being a pseudo Mod of course , to do that would preclude me from ignoring the neccessarily pseudo nature of the whole concept of moderation - in what is essentially a pseudo existence enclosed within a pseudo community - their authority then is pseudo authority over a non-existant abstract reality , and as such prevents any pseudo Mods being possible due to the incredible level of split infinitives involved in just thinking about it . Im sorry I made a comment , I was confused , glad weve got it all straight now xxx
Peace
I wish I knew what pseudo meant confused
I think I should lock this thread now and point you to another one in October 1976. :twisted:
( just joking,honest! duel )
somebody i knew once came ou with somthing so profound and it has stuck with me, He said " I will listen to anyones point of view so long as they don't get all fanatical about it "
debate is good as long as that does not mean that i MUST agree to whatever it is you may think. ok. the AUP may be the admin rules and not law but we agree to those rules to join the site.