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Hi Guys
My friend sent me this link its to sign a petition. Its to produce an official set of stamps commemorating the servicemen/woman that have died whilst in Iraq.

Thanks for reading
xx
Thats yr opinion n I respect that. I personally feel that it highlights their individual bravery and gives some comfort to their families
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Thats yr opinion n I respect that. I personally feel that it highlights their individual bravery and gives some comfort to their families

i think there are other ways to remember them,a set of stamps just doesn't sit comfortably with me.
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Hi Guys
My friend sent me this link its to sign a petition. Its to produce an official set of stamps commemorating the servicemen/woman that have died whilst in Iraq.

Thanks for reading
xx

It is important that we all rememmber and honour the servicemen that have died "in our name" but to produce a set of stamps absolutely trivialises their sacrifice and makes it look like the majority of the population of Britain supported this war.
Yes, I agree - very many including me did not support this war and if you look at history, we have been rather fond of going off on debatable causes over the years.
In the circumstances, I don't think the issue of stamps is a good idea.
Plim sad
I don't have any view on whether the stamps would be a good or bad thing, nor do I want to go over all the arguments about going to war in Iraq.
But this is a great opportunity to remember all those servicemen and women, and many other professions, who risk their lives to protect others. While most of us enjoy a fairly comfortable and safe Christmas, let's spare a thought for those who are defending freedom, wherever they are.
Steve
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let's spare a thought for those who are defending freedom, wherever they are.
Steve

Freedom you say....the soldiers of the 2nd world war were defending freedom,these poor fuckers in Iraq are fighting a war that should never have happened if not for the greedy bastards after the oil...how about we give a thought for the living and do something about getting our troops home safe.
having served in the services it would be with pride that i and fellow serviceman acknowledge the respect and support our family and fellow human beings wish to afford us for the service and security that we all enjoy.
be it a small token like a stamp-it shows that we are not, and havent done it for nothing.!(perhaps the money raised from these stamps could go to service support agencies)
so dont bleat about not supporting our peace keeping and active roles throughout the world when you havent got the balls to do it yourselves.!
by the way, merry christmas and a happy new year to all, especially our men and women in the services.!
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let's spare a thought for those who are defending freedom, wherever they are.
Steve

Freedom you say....the soldiers of the 2nd world war were defending freedom,these poor fuckers in Iraq are fighting a war that should never have happened if not for the greedy bastards after the oil...how about we give a thought for the living and do something about getting our troops home safe.
It was not just for oil, but for the sake of everyone doing it America's way. How many have died for it? Let bring the troops home! While we have a chance.
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I don't have any view on whether the stamps would be a good or bad thing, nor do I want to go over all the arguments about going to war in Iraq.
But this is a great opportunity to remember all those servicemen and women, and many other professions, who risk their lives to protect others. While most of us enjoy a fairly comfortable and safe Christmas, let's spare a thought for those who are defending freedom, wherever they are.
Steve

So is this:
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/232071.html
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having served in the services it would be with pride that i and fellow serviceman acknowledge the respect and support our family and fellow human beings wish to afford us for the service and security that we all enjoy.
be it a small token like a stamp-it shows that we are not, and havent done it for nothing.!(perhaps the money raised from these stamps could go to service support agencies)
so dont bleat about not supporting our peace keeping and active roles throughout the world when you havent got the balls to do it yourselves.!
by the way, merry christmas and a happy new year to all, especially our men and women in the services.!

if you buy that stamp it only shows your support to the government for sending the troops to fight unnessesary wars...Iraq was no threat to the rest of the world,our troops are being used for someone else's financial one is trying to disrepect the troops its the fucking government i piss on...and they don't give two hoots about the troops.
I don't see why they warrant a set of commemorative stamps - after they're doing a job that they chose to do, with all the risks it involves, which they get paid for. Whether they get paid enough is debatable, but many people have jobs which put their own lives/health at risk who get no recognition at all. And they don't kill other human beings for a living.
I would be all for it if a certain amount of every stamp sold was given to the various Forces Benevolent Funds.
I would be all for it if a certain amount of every stamp sold was given to the various Forces Benevolent Funds.
as far as a set of stamps goes its just more money for this joke administration that runs the show. The guys and girls past and present deserve our support full time not just as and when it suits us or for one sad day a year.
oh FFS! what our government does, when it chooses to send young men to their deaths, is not the fault of the soldiers, and they absolutely deserve a little recognition, even if it's just a stamp on an envelope to remind us that our guys are dying out there! i hate the War On Terror / Wars for Oil absolutely, but unfortunately, the guys on the front line have no choice when it comes to the battles they fight. it's not about the politics of this particular period of minor unpleasantness, at all! ;)
SlurpySarah, you don't think they deserve it? well luckily for you, young men and women put their lives on the line, and have to kill other human beings, for bugger all money, so that you can sleep safe in your bed at night? and you don't think they deserve our respect? rolleyes confused
n x x x ;)
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having served in the services it would be with pride that i and fellow serviceman acknowledge the respect and support our family and fellow human beings wish to afford us for the service and security that we all enjoy.
be it a small token like a stamp-it shows that we are not, and havent done it for nothing.!(perhaps the money raised from these stamps could go to service support agencies)
so dont bleat about not supporting our peace keeping and active roles throughout the world when you havent got the balls to do it yourselves.!
by the way, merry christmas and a happy new year to all, especially our men and women in the services.!

With you 100%
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having served in the services it would be with pride that i and fellow serviceman acknowledge the respect and support our family and fellow human beings wish to afford us for the service and security that we all enjoy.
be it a small token like a stamp-it shows that we are not, and havent done it for nothing.!(perhaps the money raised from these stamps could go to service support agencies)
so dont bleat about not supporting our peace keeping and active roles throughout the world when you havent got the balls to do it yourselves.!
by the way, merry christmas and a happy new year to all, especially our men and women in the services.!

With you 100%
seconded! ;)
n x x x ;)
I support this 100 %
I only posted this as my friends fiancee was killes in iraq, I thought this was a great way to honour him and lots of other people killed in this way.
I never meant to cause offence but as usual its taken the wrong way.
I 100% agree with the stamp production and hope that it brings some kind of comfort for friends and relatives of soldiers who have been killed.
I never wanted this to become all pro war anti war as usual its taken in the wrong way.
All this was supposed to do was highlight the soldiers who have died protecting US!!!!!!!!!
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having served in the services it would be with pride that i and fellow serviceman acknowledge the respect and support our family and fellow human beings wish to afford us for the service and security that we all enjoy.
be it a small token like a stamp-it shows that we are not, and havent done it for nothing.!(perhaps the money raised from these stamps could go to service support agencies)
so dont bleat about not supporting our peace keeping and active roles throughout the world when you havent got the balls to do it yourselves.!
by the way, merry christmas and a happy new year to all, especially our men and women in the services.!

if you buy that stamp it only shows your support to the government for sending the troops to fight unnessesary wars...Iraq was no threat to the rest of the world,our troops are being used for someone else's financial one is trying to disrepect the troops its the fucking government i piss on...and they don't give two hoots about the troops.
Mr P, I have to agree.
We knock over Saddam and his enemy, and ours moves in. So now we are fighting every Muslim nut just because two Christian nuts ordered troops into Iraq.
Saddam may not have won any prizes for world peace, but he was powerless at the time of the invasion.
jj
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If you have never been there you do not know what it was like I was on the Al4 when we liberated some of saddams people. They were so poor that we had to give them food and water, not normal food that you would eat every day but special food to get the body’s working again. It was very tearful sight seeing people like that, yes we had to fight and kill people but they all worked for Saddam personal guard or they were Muslim nuts trying to kill us Iraq is now a better place and able to take is place in the world community.
Let me put it in a way some of you arsoles might understand!
You house, village, town or city is invaded by a dictator. You are made to believe in what they say and do what they want. If you a woman you have no rights and men always come first. You are also made to work 16-18 hours a day in field just to get some food. The police are corrupt and you have to give them money just to go shopping in a car.
Well if you want to live like that so be it move out there.
I will say that the Iraq people are great when they are governed in a normal way they are friendly people I made some good friends when saved mine and others as they helped us clean up the nuttier Muslims

The bold words are uncalled for, I think. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether you agree with it or not. confused And you misspelt it. rolleyes
with you all the way mda!
the nearest some people come to conflict is at the start of the new years sale!
with you all the way mda!
the nearest some people come to conflict is at the start of the new years sale!
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with you all the way mda!
the nearest some people come to conflict is at the start of the new years sale!

And you see that as a bad thing dunno
I dont mean to belittle the job our armed forces do in any way,shape or form but the way mda put across his post was uncalled for...
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If you have never been there you do not know what it was like I was on the Al4 when we liberated some of saddams people. This is what you, as a professional soldier is paid to do. If you thought that the job would involve violence, why did you not become a bus driver?
They were so poor that we had to give them food and water, not normal food that you would eat every day but special food to get the body’s working again. It was very tearful sight seeing people like that, yes we had to fight and kill people but they all worked for Saddam personal guard or they were Muslim nuts trying to kill us Iraq is now a better place and able to take is place in the world community. Sad, but there are many countries that don't have vast oil reserves that are in this situation that we do nothing about - why is that do you think?
Let me put it in a way some of you arsoles might understand!
You house, village, town or city is invaded by a dictator. You are made to believe in what they say and do what they want. If you a woman you have no rights and men always come first. You are also made to work 16-18 hours a day in field just to get some food. The police are corrupt and you have to give them money just to go shopping in a car.
Well if you want to live like that so be it move out there. Again, this is why we pay people like you to do the job. Many of us do jobs that are dangerous and life-threatening at home in England.
I will say that the Iraq people are great when they are governed in a normal way they are friendly people I made some good friends when saved mine and others as they helped us clean up the nuttier Muslims I take it that this is a euphemism for killing them? Nice.

Look closely at your history books and you will discover who has been the main protagonists in most of these conflicts. If you truly believe that all those poor soldiers died defending Britain also look up the word "propaganda".