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,We're all fairly clear on the fact that  "being forced or coerced, against one's will, to participate in sexual intercourse" is .
If you, or I even, agree to get naked with a guy and play around, and give him a blow job, and he then gets carried away and forces penetrative sex, is that then ?  I mean I certainly consider this to be , but the next topic is somewhat more difficult to pin down.
What if it's a woman on the flip side, and she, after raising the erection orally, decides to straddle him against his wishes, is that ?
By the same token it could be a man sitting on the erect penis, and against the wishes of the other party, is that ?
Clearly we're talking about some form of sexual misdemeanour, but I wondered how it was perceived by people generally, and even by the law.
If anyone feels the urge to suggest that a man with an erection is automatically a willing participant, I shall answer that one beforehand, that's just nonsense, having an erection means he's horny, doesn't mean he fancies shagging just anyone.
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That's a great video clip Cubes, I've seen it before, and it says so much.
Let's hope people look at it.  I wasn't really expecting much feedback from this post, but wtf.  Thanks for your post, it's worth putting out there; Still want to know if the woman climbing on my willy was guilty of , or the guy for that matter, so where's a line drawn?
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that is a wonderful video, one which is now being used in schools and elsewhere to clarify the subject smile  No means No!!!
Hi Skinny
What you describe is not , it's sexual assault. can only be committed when the perpetrator inserts his penis  into an orifice against the victim's will. Therefore can only be committed by a man. If say, a woman inserted something like a dildo into man's anus or a woman's vagina or anus, the offence is sexual assault by penetration, not . 
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Hi Theon_Blueboy,
When you said,
" can only be committed when the perpetrator inserts his penis into an orifice against the victim's will,"
I'm not sure you're actually correct and if you read about the Ched Evans case on the following link,

you'll see that Ched was convicted of even though,
There was no complaint of , no forensic evidence, no injury and no complaint
the 'victim' maintained in Court that she could not remember anything at all
the police acknowledged that the only evidence that sexual activity had taken place was the admissions from Ched and his friend Clayton.
My wife and I were shocked when we read what had happened in the Ched Evans case and the website disclosing the true facts rather than what was in the press and the media makes interesting / worrying reading.
Regards,
Tony.

I think there's a distinction between legal and moral . By that I mean there's a legal definition that doesn't include equally reprehensible violations of a person's body and mind.

Many people assume, quite reasonably I suppose, that an erection implies willingness to at least some degree. However, sufficient skill and knowledge of the male anatomy can produce a boner in a man who's not even conscious. A man can therefore be induced to participate in penetrative sex against his will and even if that's not legally , morally it's no different. I feel the law needs to catch up on this because "sexual assault" is seen as a lesser crime.

It's quite simple - if they say no or stop at anytime and you carry on then it is