Rediculous observations

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
Second, your comment "charging people to have sex in your home"suggests that I run a brothel? While I have nothing against brothels I would urge you to modify your language before you semi accuse someone of running an illigal business.
Perhaps you mistake the nerve that you believe to have touched as being with regard your misconceptions or assumptions about our parties? This is not the case. However, the arrogance and ignorance of a few people who hijack forum topics seeming just for fun is anoying.

So your business is registered then? You run it with the full knowledge of your mortgage provider/council/neighbours/tax man?
I don't think your topic has been hijacked, it's been sidetracked. Largely by your defensive attitude.

20 Jul 2010

he'd get knicked very quick if it was anything near to running a brothel. the two things are quite different.

20 Jul 2010

Quote by vampanya
Would saying that the curtains dont match the carpets be a ridiculous observation??

OMG!!! Mrs Gu would be mortified......:giggle:

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Mr-Powers
We have been throwing regular house parties for over 2 years now and have had some pretty good feedback, but one or two people have made some very startling observations. For instance one couple wrote back to us saying that "there were far too many naked people at your party". While another couple commented that "you can't have a swingers party without showing porn". Now I know we can’t please all of the people all of the time but these comments strike me as verging on the ridiculous.
I’m wondering how many other ridiculous comments or observations people have seen or heard

Do you charge for your parties?
We never charge for our parties. lol

Which is probably why I'm poor. :lol:

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
I read and I comprehend, which I believe to be an inability of yours and a few other contributors to forums. You directly asked a question re the amount of people attend our parties. To put it curtly I told you to mind your own business and asked what your point had to do with the topic of the thread. Whether you believe it or not, the language you used re being a mod is of the type used by little 16 year old school girl bullies, FYI, don’t bully easily. Please read again "charging people to have sex in your home"suggests that I run a brothel? Re the word "suggest", suggesting or inferring is not the same as outright stating a case of fact. And as all bad school girl bullies do when they’ve been seen to be what they are, they turn tail and run.

I don't usually come back to stuff like this cause I find that the other person feels the biggest need to have the last word but can you actually hear yourself?
I initially asked a question which you still haven't answered as is your perogative but just because you don't like my observations you start making accusations that I'm a bully?!
As for the charging people to have sex in your home, this is prescisely what you're doing. Dress it up however you like as overheads but effectively, you are charging people to come into your house, to a sex party and making out that the cost of £20 per couple covers the buffet. What are you serving, caviar and champagne?! lol

What's the point in starting a thread asking for comments and then throwing your toys out the pram when it doesn't go the way you want it to? I think perhaps you doth protest too much!! wink

If you think I'm a bully then report me to Admin. I think everyone can see that you're the one who's being ridiculous. Now, I'm going to leave this thread because I really don't think any further input is constructive.

20 Jul 2010

Afternoon folks,
Ice creams anyone to cool down a bit?

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Freckledbird
So your business is registered then? You run it with the full knowledge of your mortgage provider/council/neighbours/tax man?
I don't think your topic has been hijacked, it's been sidetracked. Largely by your defensive attitude.

Bang on the money FB.
IF you charge a fee for allowing people into your home, they are entitled as any paying customer would be, to ask for other things that THEY think are relevant to them.
Jeeze.......is that hard to understand?
Can I ask as an obseravtion how much you charge per couple, and do you also charge for drinks?
For unless you run it as a business like Skinnys used too,what costs are involved?
We have been invited to many house parties and there has been no charge, as they are looking for people to play at those said parties, not to make money from it.

20 Jul 2010

ooooOOOOoooh I read this this morning but didnt have time to post or I'd have been late for work .... how things have developed!! Thought I might put my 2 pence worth in too lol

We also hold house parties. It costs us up to £150 to put on a decent buffet, soft drinks and mixers etc. We never charge anyone. This is because we feel that it is not only wrong but we get this back in kind when we are invited to parties.
We have been to 1 paying party. It was in a city centre venue and the organisers had paid £300 to hire the appartment for the night. We were charged £30 to go as were all couples (not sure what singles paid). There were 20+ couples at this party plus about 10 singles. There was a small buffet and mixers (which ran out part way through the night), plastic plates and cups.
If we forget about the singles and take it that 20 couples were there .... the maths goes somethign like this:
20 couples x £30 = £600
Appartment cost £300
Buffet £100 (at the very most)
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Total £400
£600 - £400 = £200 (at least) clear profit and thats not including singles
Sorry if this seams a little immature but it is clear to see that there is big money in this. You may not charge as much for your parties or have as many people going but then your expenditure would be next to nothing as you only have to pay for a buffet!!
Not making money .... my arse!!!

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Sarah
So what are you charging to attend a party at your home?
Single female, I have worked out are free
What is the charge for a single male / and a couple?
And if the couple is 2 bi females are they free?

Just quoting myself, as I would like a direct answer, that males are £x amount and couple are £x, and 2 bi females are £x amount.
Bearing in mind you are a business person, this shouldn't be too difficult to answer.

20 Jul 2010

I think they've lost it...
They wouldn't know "constructive" flower if the fucking roof fell in on them :smug:

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
Good for you we just happen to charge,,,, big deal,, you say it as if covering costs is a crime! That wasnt the topic of the thread

Thanks for answering my question as to what you charge as an entrance fee.
By not answering anyone here it is obvious that you make money out of it.
Good for you but don't try to paint a different picture, or are you going to tell us all how much you charge?
Come on be brave.

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Sarah
So what are you charging to attend a party at your home?
Single female, I have worked out are free
What is the charge for a single male / and a couple?
And if the couple is 2 bi females are they free?
Just quoting myself, as I would like a direct answer, that males are £x amount and couple are £x, and 2 bi females are £x amount.
Bearing in mind you are a business person, this shouldn't be too difficult to answer.

Ignoring me is not a good idea!

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Sarah
Ignoring me is not a good idea!

It is obvious to everyone here why they are not forthcoming with that information.

20 Jul 2010

Quote by kentswingers777
Ignoring me is not a good idea!

It is obvious to everyone here why they are not forthcoming with that information.
That I understand, but I would like to know, if I wished to attend one of these parties as a couple, what cost should I allow, on top of the petrol etc to get there and back etc.
I want to know what it is likely to cost.
Or maybe one of you have attended and can advise what you had to pay.
I have a very strong dislike of people making money out of swingers for their own pocket, especially single males, when females are free, that is why the site now has a commercial section, so people can be up front and honest about what is what, the world changes and there are more commercial events now in the swinging world, (I don't like it but there are) so lets move with the times and be honest about it.
I will return later as I have dinner to sort out and maybe then just maybe I will know how much the cost is.............

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Sarah
Ignoring me is not a good idea!

It is obvious to everyone here why they are not forthcoming with that information.
That I understand, but I would like to know, if I wished to attend one of these parties as a couple, what cost should I allow, on top of the petrol etc to get there and back etc.
I want to know what it is likely to cost.
Or maybe one of you have attended and can advise what you had to pay.
I have a very strong dislike of people making money out of swingers for their own pocket, especially single males, when females are free, that is why the site now has a commercial section, so people can be up front and honest about what is what, the world changes and there are more commercial events now in the swinging world, (I don't like it but there are) so lets move with the times and be honest about it.
I will return later as I have dinner to sort out and maybe then just maybe I will know how much the cost is.............
holding your breath Sarah can be injurious to your health...

20 Jul 2010

We used to go to Skinnydippers and the cost there was £40 per couple, and the drinks were extra...you could not bring your own.
Plus it was 50 miles away from us and at the time we had to pay a sitter, which meant the cost came to roughly 100 quid...a fecking lot of money but it was our choice as it was a superb club.
They had a pathetic buffet to be honest and it was very over priced but....they were making money out of it and as they had a party every Sat night and on some nights there would be well over 100 people there, it was making a mint.
Very easy to make good money from parties but I do appreciate that people use their own homes and that on occasions there will be breakages and the like to pay for.

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
For unless you run it as a business like Skinnys used too,what costs are involved? Let me say this again we do not run parties for profit we do spend a lot on food, mixers and yes its not cheap crap. We spend money on replacing 'borowed' toys none of which are cheap, the last toy to be borowed was a beauty flogger worth in excess of £80, reparing damage to the house, on one occasion we had to replace the timing switch for the heating etc at a cost of £70 including fitting. we also spend money on laundery as every bed is changed throughout the night if it is spoiled, and before guests staying over hot the sack. we also cater for breakfasts the following day for all those who stay over let alone the electric etc. I repeat we do not make money from our parties
Good for you we just happen to charge,,,, big deal,, you say it as if covering costs is a crime! That wasnt the topic of the thread

Food .... check
Toys .....check
Damages .... check
Bedding .... check
breakfast ..... check
Electricity ..... check
Yep we do exactly the same ..... we even provide condoms!!!
No charge here!!
If you have a vanilla dinner party, do you charge your guests for the food, wine and service?

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
So what are you charging to attend a party at your home?
Single female, I have worked out are free
What is the charge for a single male / and a couple?
And if the couple is 2 bi females are they free?

Just quoting myself, as I would like a direct answer, that males are £x amount and couple are £x, and 2 bi females are £x amount.
Bearing in mind you are a business person, this shouldn't be too difficult to answer.
Sorry what was that again?
I don't find that funny, your bedside manner is awful IMO of course.
I take you are now admitting to making a profit
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/309216.html

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
So what are you charging to attend a party at your home?
Single female, I have worked out are free
What is the charge for a single male / and a couple?
And if the couple is 2 bi females are they free?

Just quoting myself, as I would like a direct answer, that males are £x amount and couple are £x, and 2 bi females are £x amount.
Bearing in mind you are a business person, this shouldn't be too difficult to answer.
Sorry what was that again?
I don't find that funny, your bedside manner is awful IMO of course.
I take you are now admitting to making a profit
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/309216.html
And I take it that you have not read the thread in full. Your profile reads that you dont play so I gather that you are fishing. I suggest that you go fish somewhere else and stop sending threatening e-mail
There is nothing to stop me from changing my mind, there is nothing threatening in my posts.

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
My point all along has been that none of your input has been constructive

So ....you started a thread to poke fun at feedback from your paying guests and when people point out to you that maybe it would be worth listening to said feedback ....you don`t think that`s constructive !!!!
Bloody hell rolleyes

I was not poking fun at people guests or not. I was quoting a rediculous comment and asking othere for there similar experiances. To which I had a few great replies, but then the thread was spoilt by the usual intellectual eunuchs who seem intent on spoiling topics just for the sake of it.
I distictly remember stating in a reply to you earleir in the thread to the fact that we do note peoples comments and we do take notice. I also thanked you, If I didnt then please accept both my thanks and apologies
Intellectual eunuchs? You're hardly an intellectual yourself - even the title of the thread is spelled incorrectly!
Oh, and I'd advise against ignoring/being rude to Sarah - I'd be inclined to believe that she's asking the questions with her mod hat on, and as such might find fault if you don't answer appropriately.
I have popcorn if anyone's interested?
Oh and Islandcpl, what's your registered business/company name/address? You must have one if your council/mortgage provider are aware of what takes place in your house, I'd have thought. Oh, and public liability insurance, fire certificates etc? Even if you don't make a profit, you'd still need these.

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Mr-Powers
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Really, so whats ridiculous about asking for a bit of porn to watch, or a chillout area away from the all the naked people playing? think about it...not ridiculous comments just valid feedback.
i`m in total agreement Mr powers here i don't see anything ridiculous
just out if interest did you contact these observer's and ask why they felt this way ??

20 Jul 2010

I think its obvious what their point is, so come on tell us

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Freckledbird
Oh and Islandcpl, what's your registered business/company name/address? You must have one if your council/mortgage provider are aware of what takes place in your house, I'd have thought. Oh, and public liability insurance, fire certificates etc? Even if you don't make a profit, you'd still need these.

Of course they need them, plus I see they got rather miffed when Sarah pointed out the costs per couple....costs they would not disclose on here.
20 quid a couple? You ARE making money, so stop all the porkie telling fgs.
Your tone is one that, do remember never to send us a party invite, as even though you are not far from us, I would rather stay indoors and pick my toe nails, than to attend one of your parties with the attitude you have not only shown on here, but towards your PAYING guests!!
20 quid and not making a profit.....

:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao:

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
My other ridiculous observation is that you conveniently ignored my question about single females so I can only assume they go free.

I would ask if you had ever been to a club? To your last observation single ladies are free.
Now that I have answered your accusations can we please get back to the topic of the thread?
I have been meandering through this thread all day, and I am struggling to understand the OPs previous comments that their pricing structure for their parties is in some way comparable with pricing structures for single females in the swinging club business world, and so is appropriate for their parties? i.e. They do not charge for single females.
We all know IRL that not charging for single female attendees at a swinging club ((( A proper business, with proper overheads, real competition, etc, in need of decent marketing? ))) is a loss leader, cos the number of single-fems helps pull in the couples, and the number of both helps pull in the single males. We all know that the reason proper businesses do that is commercially motivated? confused

Forgive me Islandcpl, but I have to ask, what's yer own reasoning? :? dunno

N x x x ;)

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
............ and stop sending threatening e-mail

Ok first point. EVERY member of the site is subject to the AUP. Mods and Ops included. If you feel that ANYONE is threatening you I strongly recommend you forward any evidence you have to either Admin, St3v3 (site owner) or raise a support ticket and refrain from making allegations on the open board, as all this does is aggravate any situation. :thumbup:
Next .... I was perplexed by this bit ....

Quote by Islandcpl1
..........FYI,,,, our parties are held in full knowledge of our mortgage provider, the local council, and authorities have full knowledge of our parties..........

Most swingers I have met tend to shy away from telling anyone, especially the people you mention above, about their lifestyle choice. I commend you on your absolute honesty and openness, but fail to see why they need to know if you're not running a commercial venture, unless you're inviting members of the local council. Now I see where my council tax money's going. :doh: (I'm being flippant. Sorry. redface

).
Penultimately .... I understand if you don't wish to tell people what you charge, but I'm interested how you calculate the exact amount of losses, breakages, consumption etc prior to the event to get the entrance fee? If you're estimating, then surely there's been times when it's under and times when it's over? I'm not really up to speed on all the business terms, but isn't that sometimes referred to as loss and profit? confused

Finally ...... As you have pointed out, the thread is called 'ridiculous observations' and you ask for

Quote by Islandcpl1
................. other ridiculous comments or observations people have seen or heard

(if you feel this is taken out of context I appologise)
As you've indicated that you'd like to read what is a subjective opinion (ie the ridiculous) I can't see that you can complain that the thread is going off topic when people express that opinion, be it right or wrong in your view.

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1

For unless you run it as a business like Skinnys used too,what costs are involved? Let me say this again we do not run parties for profit we do spend a lot on food, mixers and yes its not cheap crap. We spend money on replacing 'borowed' toys none of which are cheap, the last toy to be borowed was a beauty flogger worth in excess of £80, reparing damage to the house, on one occasion we had to replace the timing switch for the heating etc at a cost of £70 including fitting. we also spend money on laundery as every bed is changed throughout the night if it is spoiled, and before guests staying over hot the sack. we also cater for breakfasts the following day for all those who stay over let alone the electric etc. I repeat we do not make money from our parties
Good for you we just happen to charge,,,, big deal,, you say it as if covering costs is a crime! That wasnt the topic of the thread

Food .... check
Toys .....check
Damages .... check
Bedding .... check
breakfast ..... check
Electricity ..... check
Yep we do exactly the same ..... we even provide condoms!!!
No charge here!!
If you have a vanilla dinner party, do you charge your guests for the food, wine and service?
your point is?
My point is .......... that whether you are inviting guests to your home for a dinner party or a swinging party they are all guests invited by you.
The costs for both are probably quite similar (maybe more expensive for a dinner party) and yet you choose to charge for people who are coming to your house to eat your nibbles and then have sex (possibly with you).
So answer the question ... if you have a vanilla dinner party, do you charge your guests for the food, wine and services possible damages, electricity, etc?

20 Jul 2010

Really not worth the bother............tara

20 Jul 2010

Quote by Islandcpl1
Re the morality of charging money, I have no qualms. To those who throw parties and dont charge, your choice not mine and I see nothing wrong with charging or not charging, those who want to pay will do soo and those who dont, dont. What I charge I have disclosed earlier in the thread. To the assumption that I have single ladies here to attract single gguys. If they had bothered to read,, we run couples and single ladies parties NO SINGLE GUYS. To those who post begining with "I am waitng for an answer, I suggest you don't ignore me" and then state that they see nothing threatning, you have to be kidding. To those who dont want an invite, dont worry your probably the wrong kind people for our parties anyway, and you wont be getting an invite. And to the rest of the wolf pack, take a look at one who give a dam. I am not nor will I ever be a wolf, I'm far better than that.

You haven't disclosed what you charge; you said that you charge enough to cover your costs. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous stating that your costs include the repair to a heating switch or the replacement of 'borrowed' toys. If you have insurance, they'd be covered by that anyway, if you're running a you're saying that they are the costs you cover, how do you go about that exactly? Hardly fair to charge the guests at the following party for it really - or did you go around at the party when it happened, asking for a contribution from all your guests? Did you charge in advance for it - in which case, that's hardly covering your costs and you'd have to be a fortune teller to know it was going to happen. Unless it was already faulty and you blamed someone at your party for it, of course.

20 Jul 2010

Quote by FB
You haven't disclosed what you charge; you said that you charge enough to cover your costs

The world and his wife knows what they charge FB, but just to clarify, in case anyone missed it, it's £20 per couple.
It looks like single fems go free, no single males allowed? The 20 quid apparently includes 'bits n pieces', and 'bags and bags of toys' for our pleasure? They probably have contingency plans in place for any damages resulting from the use of toys in ways other than advertised, or the partaking of 'fallin down juice?', and things like that, obviously, cos if they didn't, well, they might suddenly find themselves on very shaky ground indeed, eh? rolleyes

Islandcpl1, you are running commercial events, advertised in the Commercial Events forum. By your own admission they are run as commercial events. I can't imagine why you've been so seemingly reluctant to say as much? confused

That's all anyone's been asking isn't it? dunno

N x x x ;)

20 Jul 2010

I hate it when I get the cut n paste thing between notepad, and post preview thingie, and edit mode window mixed up while I'm still chopping up paragraphs. :doh: rolleyes

I can probably live with it though.
*tuts*

I wasnt the one to bring commerce into this thread, I left that to those who have either an inability to comprehend what they read, or who have a desire to cause mischief. That some contributors to this thread cannot seem to understand or follow at least one link to a party add is their problem not mine.

And yet, we're you not the one that posted a thread earlier this evening castigating those who refused to politely answer a direct question put to them? confused

You're not exactly making friends and influencing people here are you?
N x x x ;)