Well, didn't see that one coming ...
Surprise at the news but probably none too surprising given what he did to his body ...
His legacy to pop music is possibly unrivalled. I mourn the loss of Michal by the celebration of his music.
RIP - Michael Jackon - RIP
Thanks Pete can't help but nod my head in agreement with you.
This RIP thread shouldn't be sullied or tarnished it should be there to celebrate the good in his life and to mourn his passing.
Pete those are my sentiments exactly.
I was never a true Michael fan but grew up with his music always being around from the 70's. I have to say a legend that is a sad loss, someone that has spanned 30+ years and my children enjoy his music. There are not many artists that can leave behind that legacy.
I believe the most brilliant of artists if in music or art are the ones with the most troubled of mind.
People say he was an abuser, I would like to ask where were the people when he was a mere lad being abused, and exploited by many adults around him. I would say sitting back and enjoying what he was offering them his music.
People will say he had money, it is no good giving a child money to make things better and expecting them to be normal.
Money isn’t everything in life.
I believe there was one person that convinced many that he was guilty of anything and the day I watched that documentary was one of the days I thought TV could be an evil media, and that Michael Jackson was trailed that day and how so many found him guilty the poor man never stood a chance.
RIP Michael I hope you find peace in your mind wherever you are today.
can we show some respect here please.
keep the jokes out of a thread started to show respects.
his music was far reaching and he was a star.
some people do feel a loss here and when music plays an important part in many peoples lives and a main contributor to recalling those memorys of our childhoods and lives is the music of this man then show some respect and keep your poison out of this thread.
your entitled toyour opinion, but if you have nothing to say in the vain of respect in this thread please take it else where.
i for one and very shocked and sadened at the sudden and early loss of michael.
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I wonder if there will be a refund at the O2 concerts
Dave_Notts
Well what can we say! Totally shocked. Never really liked the person Michael Jackson but did love his music. He was another Freddie and an ultimate showman that could never fail to impress with his music. His music will live on which is good.
R.I.P Michael
Sorry but i also can not mourn a man who was an unconvicted , no matter how good his music was......... the music has not and will not ever die but the horror and freak show that was the man has!!!!
I would also like to point out that the great Farrah Fawcett died yesterday too but this will now be overshadowed and i find that more sad.
Oh and a note to Gordon Brown today is a very good day to bury bad news!!!!!!
Gone To Soon
R.I.P Michael
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did he have a problem? yes, more than one... was he an admirable individual? probably not.
his wacko jacko persona was largely a construct of his own fantasy, fed to the media to enhance his outstanding (as in standing out) public image.
was anything remotely indictive beyond alegations by greedy parents (a minority amongst a lot of families, parents, children that went through the gates of Neverland, and testified to his good nature and against wrongdoings) been found to prove his tendencies? nope, not as far as I'm aware.
all that was proved, were a few circumstances that would have given gary glitter the perfect chance for a reacharound but should not be automatically assumed to have gone down the same path.. (I'm thinking of Elizabeth Taylor testifying she had seen MJ in bed with one of the accusing children...which of course is highly inappropriate when it's not your child... but clarifying they were watching Disney flicks... it's worthy of notice that to see this she must have been in the same room..and nobody accused her of being a /voyeur..)
I'm not making him out to be a saint, mind you..I don't much care for his wild antics and delusions of grandeur (albeit partly justified by his success)... In fact I don't believe in the whole "fandom/stardom" thing and I don't really apppreciate the man behind the music..but that's not enough to make him guilty.
the simple truth is that a man accused of being a is automatically guilty in the eyes of the media..if he gets acquitted, it's only for lack of proof, not because he's innocent..a presumed will carry the stigma to his deadbed, and always be looked at with suspicion, even after his death, unless a movie is made about his misfortunes.
... and if he's famous and rich, he automatically has bought the verdict and nobody cares that he might actually have been innocent.
and that, I think, is pretty sad.
it's a fact that we cannot judge, because nobody except the judges that had all the proofs and witnessess in front of them, ever had the means to say if he is innocent or not..and we know, or think to know, that a verdict could swing both ways, because of media pressure, legal technicalities, forged or "bought" testimony and protagonism and "commercial" interests for everybody involved..
innocence or guilt are more often than not irrelevant in such public media events. and the outcome doesn't guarantee that justice is served. but neither does it say that MJ bought his innocence.
in fact, the accusers have been caught talking openly about the economical benefits they'd get for accusing him, especially if he was proven guilty... or so some in the media say..(have these rumors been paid for by MJ to rehabilitate his name? we don't know.. has his sister retracted her accusations, based on hearsay and impressions to begin with, in exchange of money? again, could be, could be she did not.. and the list goes on.. potentially every sliver of proof could have been hidden/destroyed/bought. on the other hand, there is no proof of any of the sort, and it might very well be the other way around.)
what is undoubtely true, because friends, family, acquaintances and expert agree on it, is that MJ was a troubled person, with serious gaps in his childhood (not surprising, given his public life since the age of 5).. and who never really grew into a complete adult individual (I guess that's what neverland was all about... peterpan, ferris wheels, bouncy castles and the lot)
I just think we should, for lack of other ways to determine the truth, accept the legal verdict for what it's worth.
duh..why I got into this pages-long rant beats me, as I'm not even a proper fan..
I guess I don't like what the media does to people, both ways (I'm thinking of the nearly-sanctified Jane Goody just as much as I'm thinking about Jacko)
Pearly gates moon walking.......... i think not, more like the gates of hell!!!!
sorry but tbh i dont give a flying fook.
yes his family and friends will be distraught but so is anyone who loses a loved one
i wont dispair i wont care nor will i miss him or his music
Thank you earth for that glimmer of sanity.
A very talented young lad who was spotted, made, merchandised and ultimately ruined by it all.
His wealth afforded him so much, and denied him of so much more.
Did he create some fabulous music - yes
Did he give us some great spectacle / entertainment - yes
But he was just a man in the end.
I find it a terrible shame, but equally, that same evening, there was a program on TV about homelessness.
There are so many great shames in this world that we CAN do something about and can't be bothered to.
RIP MJ. I didn't know you, I didn't love you, I was conditioned into believing I knew something of you and finally I'm conditioned to express a heightened state of emotion.
Somewhere, behind all the history, was a little black boy, born with nothing... left the world with nothing. Finally free.
how much truth there is in that, who knows.
