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Roger's Basic Advice for Single Men

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I was waiting until I thought of something original to say. smile
Thanks folks for all the replies. I'll try to keep the document updated in the light of any suggestions people may have.
I symphathize with your experience, BiFemHants, but if you say NO MALES on your advert then the only males that contact you will be the illiterate wankers. :wanker: So that's not a representative sample of us saintly, gorgeous, polite single gentlemen. :angel: Honest! confused
You're right about names to a certain extent, but I think with a good personality you can overcome even the naffest name. I mean, take well_busty_babe. (And who wouldn't? hump ) The male equivalent of her name would be well_hung_guy. But I'm sure if well_hung_guy had come here with the same personality as well_busty_babe, and treated us in the same way, he'd be just as popular as she is. (Albeit we wouldn't have had the rampant rabbit thread. Probably.)
Alex: Yeah, I'm sure single women get the runaround from single men a lot too. It's just, I was writing the document for an audiance of single men, so I didn't want to assume too many stereotypes. :) Besides, I'm guessing the guys who'd take the time to read something like this probably aren't the overweight nutters who pretend to be a bronzed adonis then stand you up in the middle of nowhere. :?
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You're right about names to a certain extent, but I think with a good personality you can overcome even the naffest name. I mean, take well_busty_babe. (And who wouldn't? hump ) The male equivalent of her name would be well_hung_guy. But I'm sure if well_hung_guy had come here with the same personality as well_busty_babe, and treated us in the same way, he'd be just as popular as she is. (Albeit we wouldn't have had the rampant rabbit thread. Probably.)

well i never!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! evil
naff? i though WBB was classy and alluring!
lol, well ok..... i am lying!
but why do i get dragged into EVERYTHING! lol
rolleyes
WBB (looking for a new name)
xxx
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but why do i get dragged into EVERYTHING! lol
rolleyes

It's because you look so good after being dragged through the undergrowth. sillyhwoar:
thanks for the "guide" mate, totally agree. I'm relativelly new to this scene and it do takes a lot of time meeting someone. I used some of your advice and I was lucky and my hard work payed off after less than a week. So in a weekend I had my first 4-some, and vistited my first sex club. Now I'm hooked! :-) Single men have to be willing to work hard, search a lot, spend time on their pictures and writing letters/messages. Try to find out what your strong selling points are, if you are a good kisser, let's try to sell that point, if you have a nice bum, well take a picture of it and send it off, maybe somone takes a fancy! :-) Try to have fun and be positive, always be 100% honest. Wiild
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I used some of your advice and I was lucky and my hard work payed off after less than a week. So in a weekend I had my first 4-some, and vistited my first sex club. Now I'm hooked! :-)

Way to go Wild! biggrin Well done!
Roger;
I'd like to make a formal complaint about your guide!!!
By following your 'so called guide' I've had 27 meets in the last two days... I am fucking exhausted!! and it's all your fault.
So, I am not going to use the guide anymore and hopefully my life will return to normal - but I doubt that as the ladies have all now sampled my 12" turbo monster dick.
Paul
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I am fucking exhausted!!

And vice versa, I presume. biggrin
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I am fucking exhausted!! /quote]
And vice versa, I presume. biggrin

Indeed so Roger, indeed so... lol
Loathe though I am just to bump my own thread back to the top (okay, okay, I have a huge ego so I'm not loathe to do this at all :twisted: ), I thought I'd flag up that I've updated my single-guys-guide in the light of recent events. As ever, let me know if you have any suggestions!
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Loathe though I am just to bump my own thread back to the top (okay, okay, I have a huge ego so I'm not loathe to do this at all :twisted: ), I thought I'd flag up that I've updated my single-guys-guide in the light of recent events. As ever, let me know if you have any suggestions!

Here's a suggestion Rog,
Come to bed?
How do you know I'm not there already? cool
Excellent advice Roger.......... I joined SH in August as a single guy and I have had several successful meets and found a lovely female swinging partner into the bargain!
Single guys can have fun but they need to read the ads properly and respond accordingly. Also, if using the chat room, single guys need to chat as a real person and not some testosterone fuelled dickhead - only then are they more likely to meet real people and have real fun!
This post ought to be compulsory reading for all newcomers.
Wishmaster.
:shock: Fuck me Roger :shock:
That's a big one! You kept that well hidden, wait till I show Kit! lol
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:shock: Fuck me Roger :shock:

Thanks for the offer Kat, I'll let you know. ;) lol
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That's a big one! You kept that well hidden, wait till I show Kit! :lol:

Not so hidden anymore ;) ;) ;)
Actually, I think she already guessed - she did say when we got back and I got your PM - "ooo Roger, I like him, he has a great sense of humour"
It never did quite ring true though and I thought there must be something else to it wink
lhk
Kat
P.S. - yes - she really did say that though.
well I have to say that this thread opened my eyes, almost felt like crying seeing as I am probly the newest guy here as well sad
but wth, you did say have fun, and I reckon that if you can manage that then its worthwhile
Personally I wouldnt look to be having sex with somebody that was personalitywise a total prick
I know I am a newbie, but I reckon if you are genuine, honest and dont expect every woman/man to fall swooning and gagging at your feet then given time things will start to come together for you.
I did join a site that was costing me an arm and a leg, result, 300 replies, made 1 friend who is just that, a friend, we dont have sex, we just have fun and chat, finding that friend cost me about £130 but she was well worth it, I can go out and buy a hooker for far less than that, guaranteed sex, but can I talk with her and have a laugh
My thoughts on this are mebbe poor, but I say, be honest, dont expect the best things, go with the flow, have fun and just maybe you will meet somebody , even if you dont you can still be having fun with the chatting smile
With an attitude like that, Kristof, I'm sure you can't fail to find what you're seeking. smile Best of luck to you!
We like the information you have provided and it is a good start. However your posting neglects that swinging is an activity controlled by couples, not just females. In most instatances the female has the final say but it is the male member of the couple who is the gatekeeper. The gatekeeper is the one who determines how closely the other m gets to the female, if at all. So any single m who is interested in a mfm experience needs to be aware that they need to get past the gatekeeper to have a shot and if they don't they, their venture will not be successful. Furthermore couples do set the tone of the encounter. It means for single males ventruing into this arena, they need to consider both members of the couple and incorportate both where possible in any discussions.
A typical reply we tend to get
SingleMaleWithNoClue: I am VWE male with a very thick 10" cock. I am a very heavy cummer with repeat performance ability and can eat pussy for hours.
Our reply is simple, sorry not interested.
As a couple we are more interested in how well that individual cllques with the both of us. Personally we could not care about their performance abilities and have no interest in someone who comes across as looking for a quick lay. As we all know there are many external factors than can greatly hamper performance abilities and couples have the right to be choosy. A single male who is able to connect at some level with both members of the couple will greatly enhance the experience and are more likely to be sought by couples. So putting yourself forward like a circus performer does have its risks.
Single males considering participating in a threesome situation remember the female may have the final say but it is the male member of the couple who controls the access to her..
As a single man just on here - seems solid advice, thanks very much!
what a great name "the gate keeper" biggrin
Well done to Roger for making this very clear.
The first thing you have to realise is, there's more men looking for sex online than there are women. Lots more. Swinging-Heaven is continually growing but at the time of writing, the number of adverts in each category was:
Women seeking Men: 147
Men seeking Women: 5,226
Couples seeking Men: 575
Men seeking Couples: 3,155

We read this last night and when you actually do the real figures it means
that there are on average 35 males after one female and males after couples.
This does not take into account the number of males who don't have adverts and just reply only. We would suggest that this would probably double the figures above.
Tis no wonder that the majority of males never meet anyone. When we have advertised in the past, it was very clear from the replies that there are a lot of very frustrated males on the swingers scene. Lets face it, the swingers scene is really all about couples on couples and in the start never involved singles.
Again a grerat article Roger, you spent a lot of time on this one. This really should become a STICKY so as to stop so much frustration. At least then the facts are known
roger , a very well endowed posting !!!
sort of answers all the questions in one hit
could you do one for winning the lottery too please
With MMF threesomes, there is also a question of the ... motivation?
When a single bloke talks about a MMF threesome, we are not interested in seeing comments such as "I am OK if your partner wants to join in with us"
So many adverts from single blokes made us feel that a threesome is second choice for them. We like threesomes - it is the reason we started swinging, and when we have a threesome, we want it to be with someone who is there by first choice.
lhk
Kat
A terrific post. As a newbie to the scene it is comforting, in a weird sort of way, to know I am not the only one who gets ignored. It would be so nice if all the ladies at least sent a polite 'not for me thanks' than just not replying at all. Surely it is not asking too much to set out a simple template refusal. Maybe ever s/g get over 5000 replies :shock: and finds answerint them all just too time consuming.
So I will persevere and keep writing and using the forum for, as so many have said, have fun, enjoy it and you might just get lucky.
Great advice Roger
Just wish I'd found it sooner....Maybe time will heal, its quite easy to make an ass of yourself on here without realising...especially after a night on the Guiness!
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With MMF threesomes, there is also a question of the ... motivation?
When a single bloke talks about a MMF threesome, we are not interested in seeing comments such as "I am OK if your partner wants to join in with us"

Interestingly, one of the reasons I started out on sites like this was because I had a very strong fantasy to be involved in a threesome. A loving couple sharing this intimate act with a third party was something I found to be very erotic... However, largely as a result of reading adverts from couples looking for threesomes, I've gone completely off the idea. I guess sometimes fantasy is better than reality.
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A loving couple sharing this intimate act with a third party was something I found to be very erotic...

Okay I am not a single bloke - but I just wanted to second what you said there Roger. 'tis the main (and perhaps only?) reason I joined this site. People have asked me why I am not interested in "makeshift" couples. "After all", they say, " we are a man and a bi woman". But there is something more for me in sharing in the intimacy of a "proper" couple. Hard to explain - but I guess you know just what I mean. kiss
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Again a grerat article Roger, you spent a lot of time on this one. This really should become a STICKY so as to stop so much frustration. At least then the facts are known

Cheers mate.
I am surprised that this thread has endured - at the time I figured it as a stop-gap until someone else wrote a more complete, enduring and (uh) well-researched guide. It's nice to know people are still finding this useful.
Fantastic post Roger,
I've sent the link to it to a lot of men we've met. wink :wink:
Unfortunately they all seem to have read and behave more like this one! rolleyes
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/swingers-forum/viewtopic/10408.html dunno :dunno: