I have yet to work out which is better. If you're intact, complete, uncut....still got your foreskin, is it better to pull it back before donning the sleeve of rubber or leave it forwards and suffer the back and forth movement pulling the condom off.
I can safely admit to losing the odd condom and having fun retrieving it. And before you post comments suggesting a lack of dimension, I am of adequate size if not slightly above average....or so I'm told lol.
Having fun
Donethat
ooooh no, don't get me wrong. This is long before I've cum.
Yes like you I always hang on to it while withdrawing. Though on one occasion the sex seemed rather better than expected, sad comment really. On withdrawing and hanging onto the condom I noticed that the end (of the condom) was split wide open. I was honest and owned up the the event. Difficult to deny I suppose lol
Judy-TV mentioned in this, and in greater detail in another thread the "A" word, or to give it its full title AIDS.
I know its not something that people really want to think about, let alone discuss within a forum about swinging... but...
Prior to AIDS there were many other STD's (although I think STD has now been replaced with another term at the clinics and in general, i'm not sure if thats a PC thing, or to denote the fact that some "std's" can be passed through other means, so is more accurate)
Some of the infections while not imediatly detrimental did have longer lasting implications on health, and could lead to serious health problems; others like hepatitus (B and C i think) and Siphalus (also known as the pox) are just as bad as AIDS... however the differences between them and AIDS is that aids has a briefer period between being contracted and serious health problems... the end result however...
At the time of its discovery as the "gay plague" in the 80's very little was known about it, and how to treat it or its symptoms... as things stand today it, and the secondary infections, are more controlable.
The reality is that statistically getting an infection of any kind (bar clamida, and PAP I think its called which are quoted at almost 1 in 2 people if I recall correctly) is actually quite low in normal terms, but swinging tends to be a closed group in the same way that the gay comunity in places like san-fransico were...
That said, there are times where I dont use condoms... most of the time I do, but not always!
I tend to swing rarely as I like to get to know the people I'm going to play with and also I personally have to find someone (couple or otherwise) very much the type of people I find attractive.
I enjoy reading the "swingers storys" about gang bangs, and cum sluts... but at the same time I also think or wonder about the statistical increase of catching a serious life threatening STD, as aposed to the pissing razorblades but a couple of pills and its gone!
It also worrys me when you see adverts "wanted anon sex, come unzip, dump in my arse/pussy, zip up, leave" while the idea, as an idea/fantasy, apeals... the reality is "how many before you!?" and even if they have been as far as they know non-symptomatic (some people dont have the signs so they themselves never know, or the symptoms have passed or ignored but they never had the infection dealt with) that does not mean they are "clean"
"clean" thats another good word... I dont know if things have changed, but "clean" used to denote someone looking to play with out barrier methods... just how do you know you are clean?
Do you have a full STD check up every time you have un-protected sex, and abstain for 1-3 months after and a second check up before playing with another partner/couple? If not, how do you know you are clean?
There is two final questions.... perhpaps it would be better in a seperate thread, if so I'll let the mods split it out....
(1) If you found that you had something... would you be honest enough and confident enough to let past partners, swingers, etc, know so they could be checked out?
(2) If you had caught an STD in the past and had had it dealt with, would you admit it?
To answer my own questions....
(1) yes I have about 4 years ago.
(2) yes, I've had NSU (non-specific-uretritus... which as far as I can work out means, you've an infection in the wee, but buggered if we know what it is, lol) and also Gonorrhoea.... about 4 years ago... which I should add, I had only been with 1 single and one couple, both times gloved up, but having un-protected oral sex.... so just how safe do people think oral sex is with a woman is? It rurned out that the person I caught it from had been non-symptomatic from an incounter about 5 months before I met her!
Ok so that said... anyone else dare to admit.. or was I just seriously un-lucky, lol.
Jon
It is always interesting to hear another opinion such as Locos , one of their main concerns seems to be individual freedom . Now no one is more of a Libertarian than me , but I also believe that this requires taking responsibilty for your own and others reasonable safety ,so, I well said Judy . It is also possible that Loco has a Roman Cotholic agenda , if so , I am happy to tolerate that , if they will tolerate me . I do feel that the beliefs expressed were genuine and deeply felt , if I think a poster is just a Troll , I ignore them .
Cats are to be banned as household pets, Laboratory tests have shown them to be harmful to mice .
We are all aware it is our choice.
No one is insisting, asking or even suggestion that we should force any one to do anything. It’s a forum, we debate things, That’s what forums are all about
Concise Oxford Dictionary.
1 a place of or meeting for public discussion.
You are absolutely correct!
I don’t see any one preaching here, no ones ramming anything anywhere, again we are putting opinions forward and debating an issue. Ie Forum.
No, I disagree with you. A small proportion of folks on here do seem to take great delight in preaching to others what they would practice themselves. The minute anyone on here places an advert that may involve risky sexual practice, the good old 'safe' brigade tear strips off them. And it's happened on more than one occasion -- perhaps you'd like to do a search and see just what I'm referring to?
Loco, From all the many postings and the number of people who have posted there is only one person getting hot about it, …you. The rest of us are debating a very important issue that involves many of us here. I personally have found the opinions very interesting. But then I like forums, thats why I joined. JudyTV
I'm not getting hot about it Judy, I'm just debating it as a fully grown adult in a public forum. As you said earlier - it’s a forum, we debate things, That’s what forums are all about...remembed?
- For a debate to take place, you usually have to have 2 sides to the story, and from the evidence I've seen thus far the 'bareback' debate has been rather one-sided.
yes and...... pregnancy last 9 mths and results in a life , not the end of yours.
.... and i only wanted free condoms!! 
However, I think my bits may just be bizarrely insensitive but in the one experience I had with bareback sex, I didn't notice the sensation being any better than it was with a condom. 
(The major difference was not having to spend five minutes beforehand battling to tear open the wrapper.)
