Sex club - unfair pricing systems

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Phoenix
If anyone know where couples only get to pay £10 to £20 ....let us know....the one we use to regularly go to as gone up to an unnessessary ,considering it was always busy there was no need to increase the prices!

Utopia, Weds/ Thurs/Sundays , couples = £15
we've been recommended this place....we must give it a try sometime!
Wet area is great, but there is a reason it's only £15 on those nights..... it's dead confused

yes but even at the weekend,its must still be reasonable priced,i've noticed that clubs north of the watford gap are fairly priced compared to down here in the south east!

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Mr-Powers
If anyone know where couples only get to pay £10 to £20 ....let us know....the one we use to regularly go to as gone up to an unnessessary ,considering it was always busy there was no need to increase the prices!

Utopia, Weds/ Thurs/Sundays , couples = £15
we've been recommended this place....we must give it a try sometime!
Wet area is great, but there is a reason it's only £15 on those nights..... it's dead confused

yes but even at the weekend,its must still be reasonable priced,i've noticed that clubs north of the watford gap are fairly priced compared to down here in the south east!
£35 on Fri/Sat, which is more expensive than the nearby Chameleons and more expensive then the Manchester clubs.

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Geminifemale
At the end of the day 99% of swingers want single bi fems, couples want them, men want them and other women want them

In that case........fking call me PLEASE
i can't beleive that any genuine single bi female has any problems getting a meet off here, ok i'm married but i meet alone as a single fem and i get loads of pms and even after i'd sorted thro all the winks, one liners and people i don't like theres still quite a few to choose from confused

2 Feb 2007

andy your profile says single 26 yr old but can't accomodate. are you married at all and swinging alone?

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Phoenix
If anyone know where couples only get to pay £10 to £20 ....let us know....the one we use to regularly go to as gone up to an unnessessary ,considering it was always busy there was no need to increase the prices!

Utopia, Weds/ Thurs/Sundays , couples = £15
we've been recommended this place....we must give it a try sometime!
Wet area is great, but there is a reason it's only £15 on those nights..... it's dead confused

yes but even at the weekend,its must still be reasonable priced,i've noticed that clubs north of the watford gap are fairly priced compared to down here in the south east!
£35 on Fri/Sat, which is more expensive than the nearby Chameleons and more expensive then the Manchester clubs.
we have been to Xstasia,s a few times down in West Bromich,its only pounds on Saturday night....its always busy....and its been that price for more than two years that i know is another one on our list of clubs to do!

2 Feb 2007

what do all the other single blokes think about this anyway? dunno

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Mr-Powers
i've noticed that clubs north of the watford gap are fairly priced compared to down here in the south east!

That goes for prices in general, everything from beer to chunky kitkats! lol

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Darkfire
what do all the other single blokes think about this anyway?

Fact of life ...
My local club has a long long waiting list for single male membership, regardless of membership fee and entry fee... I've ordered my zimmer frame to help me in the queue.
Do I care, not really, I can get the occasional female escort in if I want and pay couples entry fees.

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Phoenix
what do all the other single blokes think about this anyway?

Fact of life ...
My local club has a long long waiting list for single male membership, regardless of membership fee and entry fee... I've ordered my zimmer frame to help me in the queue.
Do I care, not really, I can get the occasional female escort ]in if I want and pay couples entry fees.
you may want to re phrase that :lol2:
but while we on that subject how many of you men do that? use women just as a cheep ticket in? was only on about that yesterday in chat room, i have met a few guys whos asked me to go then just pissed off all night and left me then expected me to pay half to get in when its free or next to nothing to get in alone confused

2 Feb 2007

Simple supply and demand going on,
If you want to slow down the insurgance then whip the price up.
No different to the bouncers letting in the ladies before the blokes in the regular night clubs.
Being a bloke is pants PMSL lol

2 Feb 2007

Quote by naughtynymphos1
what do all the other single blokes think about this anyway?

Fact of life ...
My local club has a long long waiting list for single male membership, regardless of membership fee and entry fee... I've ordered my zimmer frame to help me in the queue.
Do I care, not really, I can get the occasional female escort ]in if I want and pay couples entry fees.
you may want to re phrase that :lol2:
but while we on that subject how many of you men do that? use women just as a cheep ticket in? was only on about that yesterday in chat room, i have met a few guys whos asked me to go then just pissed off all night and left me then expected me to pay half to get in when its free or next to nothing to get in alone confused

2 Feb 2007

Havent read all the posts and might have missed the point altogether but if clubs are too expensive why not just find girls on the street and pay! Or would that be too expensive too!
Runtie

2 Feb 2007

opps ignor me posted that last message twice confused

wheres the delete button gone anyway? lol

2 Feb 2007

it is at this point that i ought to leave this thread well alone wink

but, on the up side, I do like male company in a club as in someone to go with/ sit with/ play body guard in the jacuzzi (:thumbup smile

..but it'll only ever be on my invitation, my terms and if I'm flush, I'll pay for us both because its me who's asked... using fems as a meal ticket into a club because a guy cant get in on his own ...ooo lets just not go there! evil

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Darkfire
: I'll pay for us both because its me who's asked... :

I wouldnt expect you to pay for me if you wanted to go and asked me.
I would be glad of the discount thought wink

But thats becasue im Scotts lol

2 Feb 2007

Ooops, not an escort redface

:shock: , a willing lady, who I will accompany for the entire visit.
Being a gent, I will move away if she wishes but also there when needed. It's just polite to do so and gets you return invites.

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Darkfire
it is at this point that i ought to leave this thread well alone
but, on the up side, I do like male company in a club as in someone to go with/ sit with/ play body guard in the jacuzzi (:thumbup ..but it'll only ever be on my invitation, my terms and if I'm flush, I'll pay for us both because its me who's asked... using fems as a meal ticket into a club because a guy cant get in on his own ...ooo lets just not go there!

i'll look after ya in the jacuzzi :twisted:

2 Feb 2007

I agree Phoenix, when ever i have been to a club (never been as a single) i have seen a few single men hanging around outisde canvassing the queue for single females to make a couple in order to get in cheap.
No doubt they woud just use them as a meal ticket and drop them as soon as they get in.
Not on really.

2 Feb 2007

Please forgive me if this has been mentioned before...
It's always gonna be a supply & demand thing
there always gonna be more single guys willing to frequent these places & there fore they will be the cash cows to the club owners.. Fact!
Why not limit the number of single guys?
The club owners are running a business - why should they?
But charging single guys more... surely this is sexism?
Yes it is - lets take it all the way to the Courts of Human Rights....?
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one thing you can do...
What we lot do in the 'black males for white fems' chat room is pair off the single males with single females so us single guys can get in cheapo rate :bounce:
At the last count we have 15 - 20 couples going to chams on a Friday night!
Single guys organise yourselves & fight the power! flipa

2 Feb 2007

Quote by redpantherman
Single guys organise yourselves & fight the power!

Point taken :cry:
Going away to organise myself :shock:

2 Feb 2007

Quote by se7endriver

Single guys organise yourselves & fight the power!

Point taken :cry:
Going away to organise myself :shock:Why go by yourself mate... Lets swing by the members of the Pussy Posse & Slag Central for some fun company? :twisted:

2 Feb 2007

Quote by redpantherman
What we lot do in the 'black males for white fems' chat room is pair off the single males with single females so us single guys can get in cheapo rate :bounce:
At the last count we have 15 - 20 couples going to chams on a Friday night!
Single guys organise yourselves & fight the power!

which is fine....if you stay as manufactured couples :thumbup: Its been done sucessfully at a couple of socials then a club afterwards, by mutual agreement - I still say be very aware that some guys, as NN has said, will 'pair up' just to get in then bugger off on their own, and the club then has the problem of lone blokes in there on couples night and single fems responsible for getting them in in the first place
Gawd, i', missing posts out as well as not being able to see the text clearly still :doh: - Sorry Se&en redface

Quote by se7endriver
I agree Phoenix, when ever i have been to a club (never been as a single) i have seen a few single men hanging around outisde canvassing the queue for single females to make a couple in order to get in cheap.
No doubt they woud just use them as a meal ticket and drop them as soon as they get in.
Not on really.

exactly :thumbup:

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Darkfire
which is fine....if you stay as manufactured couples :thumbup:

You take charge of the condoms smile

although that's still no guarantee if the only thing on the guys mind is "notches" regardless of protection or not rolleyes

Which brings it back to another reason why it's more expensive for single guys.

2 Feb 2007

Quote by andy2120
On the subject of price, this excessive pricing, women can also play the same game as males

At the risk of sounding sexist, lets face it.... there would be nowhere near the amount of women as men. I would even go so far as to say you'd get 95/5 men/women. No woman wants to be part of a meat market and thats what it would turn into. Most nightclubs are bad enough but throw what men see as 'a garanteed shag' into the equation.....a night not many women would want to be part of

Quote by andy2120
and its goodbye vienna.

Actually, it's goodnight Vienna......

Quote by andy2120
On the subject of certain neights:
I see they couples & ladies nights, why dont they have just single nights, like no couples allowed? (maybe 60: 40 ratio, F:M)?

Maybe because that would be a dating agency, not a swingers club! dunno

Since when did a singles night count as swinging.....? Thats just copping off .......>>>waits for the backlash from all the singles lol

2 Feb 2007

Quote by Phoenix

why it's more expensive for single guys.

Simply because thre are about 10 times more single guys wanting to get in than single fems or couples.
In addition to this they prey on the fact that single guys are more needy of (potential) sexual action than the majority of fems are.
It all boils down to whne you were at school...............................
remember
How many times did the guys have to chase the girls?
and also later in life.......................................
In general men tend to have lower sexual standards than women,purely because 99% of the time men tend to be the persuer.
At the end of the night there are no ugly women left........only ugly men!
am i right or am i right?

2 Feb 2007

Hmmm interesting topic :thumbup:
I'm a single bi-fem and visit swinging clubs by myself, so I'm qualified by experience to discuss this topic in depth lol

Re fees, Abfab, where I go have recently raised their prices and I believe it is now £50 for a single man, while still at £10 for a single lady. Personally I think it is crazy and don't agree with charging men this amount. The rationale is obviously supply and demand and single male members sometimes have to wait to get on the guestlist, and I have seen no reduction in single men since the increase. Paying this amount, well while on one hand people who go will value their time there, on the other, it might and think does to a degree encourage an attitude of I've paid £50 so will make sure I get my money's worth...whatever a single male thinks that is.
I would like to see the occasional single night as I tend not to play with cpls but the ratio would be about 10/1 or something silly. I don't mind but I bet the men would :lol2: Alternatively, arrange your own house party and then you can set the numbers/ratio. And don't forget my invite :grin:
I have been approached by lots of men to ask me to go them and on the whole seems to be about nothing more than saving them money. One of my regular meets genuinely wants to go with me as part of a cpl and I will be doing this but this is because it is about going together and playing together. But just to save money? No thanks!
When I go on the night single men are allowed, there are rarely more than 3 single ladies. Put up the prices and this will probably go down further so demand equal prices all you want but don't forget you need to encourage single ladies all you can. As much as I disagree with the £50, no man is forced to pay...you can after all spend the money down the local pub/club and try your luck there.
But you know it won't be nearly half as much fun :rascal:

2 Feb 2007

Clubs charge couples and women less than singles because women are loss leaders. Think of it as a supermarket offer that gets you into the shop. It is simple economics because the club is a business. If there was more profit in charging men less than women then they would do so.

Quote by Darkfire
which is fine....if you stay as manufactured couples :thumbup: Its been done sucessfully at a couple of socials then a club afterwards, by mutual agreement -

It depends what night it is. Singles pairing up to get into clubs on a couples only night is not exactly honest. Many of the regular couples at a couples only night go on those nights to avoid singles because they only want to play and socialise with established couples. They may not wish to play with two singles masquerading as a couple.

2 Feb 2007

Quote by northwest-cpl
Clubs charge couples and women less than singles because women are loss leaders. Think of it as a supermarket offer that gets you into the shop. It is simple economics because the club is a business. If there was more profit in charging men less than women then they would do so.

In otherowrds ...........bait for those that cant resist the possibility of some action..
no matter how remote the possibility is rolleyes

2 Feb 2007

Quote by se7endriver
Clubs charge couples and women less than singles because women are loss leaders. Think of it as a supermarket offer that gets you into the shop. It is simple economics because the club is a business. If there was more profit in charging men less than women then they would do so.

In otherowrds ...........bait for those that cant resist the possibility of some action..
no matter how remote the possibility is rolleyes

In whatever words you wish to use. Clubs structure their prices to ensure that some women will be present, either as eye candy or as players. Without women you have a gay club. I believe the prices for single guys at gay clubs are less than the prices at swingers clubs for those where money becomes an issue ... lol

Couples are usually charged more on a couples only night than on a mixed night. Single guys are usually charged less on a quiet midweek night than on a busy Saturday night. Club owners are businessmen. Why can I eat a meal cheaper before 7 than after 7?

2 Feb 2007

Quote by northwest-cpl
Singles pairing up to get into clubs on a couples only night is not exactly honest. Many of the regular couples at a couples only night go on those nights to avoid singles because they only want to play and socialise with established couples. They may not wish to play with two singles masquerading as a couple.

Granted, but, out of interest, how 'established' do people need to be to be a 'couple'? maybe its my thinking, but if two people go to a club together, they establish themselves as a couple for that evening...or at least 'buddys'? dunno

which is what I meant by being manufactured or by mutual arrangement - not simply going in as a couple then splitting off once inside. Do you mean only established couples as in married/ long-term partners?