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Blue hunni, a really great post
Ta Judy, though I did slip into "day job" mode for a bit there :eeek: :eeek: :eeek:
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How did Daz "know" ??
Or was it a wishful guess ?? :-)
Or was it a wishful guess ?? :-)
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I have never wanted to try or fantasised about having sex with woman, it's just not my cup of tea, I wouldnt know where to start with a woman, all the bits and bobs are in the wrong place!!!
:laughabove:
That gets my vote for the most appropriate and humerous use of an emoticon ever - PMSL!
As for my sexuality, I guess I that ever since I can remember I've classed myself as a "human male" in that I like anything that feels good at the time. I tried sex with guys a couple of times but it didn't really give me what I wanted, so now I only have sex with women. That said, I still have some very close male friends who I care for very deeply, but I don't fancy them in the slightest. Does that make me a lesbian? :shock:
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However, some people DO challenge their biological sex. Some people feel like they are actually members of the opposite sex.... these people are commonly known as transsexual. Some seek sex change treatment, others find different ways to cope with the incongruence that they live with on a day to day basis. Some people are transgendered, though would not define themselves as transsexual. There are aspects of their identity or personality that are more like that which is usual for the opposite sex, but they do not wish to permanently change their sex hormonally or surgically. Some people are not really transgendered in this sense at all - they just cross dress cos they have a fetish for a certain type of clothing. E.g. some male cross-dressers define themselves very much as male but they get off on wearing female ball gowns or little bo-peep outfits
Thank you for this Blue, I must admit I thought the terms 'transgendered' and 'transsexual' meant pretty much the same thing but this explains it more clearly. I have discovered that there is a lot of stuff I don't understand so this is really helpful as I want to know about all the 'colours of the rainbow' and be able to understand those things which make people so different to each other.
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Quote by rogerthedragon
I personally have run the whole range of feelings about my sexuality - at school/college I would have never considered myself anything but straight, at about 19/20 I had my first experience with another man, thought I was gay and went into major denial about it, then got married and again was convinced I was completely straight, and finally at the moment I am quite happy being Bi.
Roger the Dragon
yeah . . what roger said! ;)
definitely never found myself attracted to guys through my teens. i was far too preoccupied with losing my virginity in a manly heterosexual way. ;) at 22, discovered certain clubs and all that went with it, and found myself in a guys bed one night after getting absolutely ripped to the tits on drink etc. have to say was pretty good while it lasted, but the self-recrimination that followed for years was a bit hard to handle, and i told myself i was plyed with drink and manipulated, and i honestly didn't know what was gonna happen, and it wouldn't have happened without the bottle of brandy etc etc!
i knew i wasn't gay, so the fact i actually enjoyed it was a bit of an issue, so deep denial mode. but i've always had stick for being gay, and had a fair bit of crap because of it, so it could well be that denial started in my teens after all, and it's been obvious to everyone except me?
my last partner was adamant i was bi, while i was equally adamant i bloody wasn't! :lol2: only now can i actually say, with the limited experience i've had, that i quite enjoy playing with guys, as part of a couple anyway, so far, cos then it ain't so much a guy on guy thing, and i don't need to define myself in quite the same way. it's just playing with a couple, as the mood takes me, but it's still tricky defining myself as bi, though i know i am? ;) being somewhere it's ok to say that helps a massive amount, cos it's a bit easier to accept it myself where others accept it too.
guess marya's emotionally straight, sexually bi ((( now and then ))) kinda fits.
n x x x ;)
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Neil.. you're as awkward as mrdevil!! lol..I have found my label of being 'bi' both useful and a downfall. I used to wear the label of 'lesbian' with pride, but its only as I've become to discover more about myself, that I have realised cock is actually pretty good!! :twisted:
Devil_in_part on the other hand, we don't have a label for (bless him).. he likes playing with guys... occasionaly and in the right situation.. and he likes to wear women's underwear (usually mine
), again.. only occasionally, because it turns both of us on.I found him on a website the other day and on the screen was the question "Am I a transvestite?" I asked him if he was and he just shrugged and said 'what does it matter'.
I think in certain situations (i.e photo ads) the label can be very useful.. when we used to browse through the couples, we were always more into those where both halves of the couple were bi, as opposed to just the fem. But when you're at home (which is where most of our kinkiness happens) we don't need labels.. just plenty of toys :twisted: :twisted:
Great thread - showing just what a diverse range of people there are SH.
Ain't it great
I'm certainly feel I'm still on the journey. Its slow progress because I keep branching off on new paths. Indeed this thread has prompted me to do a whole lot more thinking about it. Up until now I'd just been doing the practical bit :twisted: However I can be extremely introspective and this thread has prompted me to ponder on some past experiences and future plans.
Ain't it great
I'm certainly feel I'm still on the journey. Its slow progress because I keep branching off on new paths. Indeed this thread has prompted me to do a whole lot more thinking about it. Up until now I'd just been doing the practical bit :twisted: However I can be extremely introspective and this thread has prompted me to ponder on some past experiences and future plans.
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Labels or not, we are what we are. Pepole will always try and label us for lots of different reasons. Nowt we can do about it really.
I believe i fall into the "bi" category for my sexuality.
It is something I have always known.
From very early years and first sexual experiences, I have been bi.
I am sexually attracted to both men and women. Always have been and always will be. They both fulfill different sexual desires.
I have gone for a while without having a sexual relationship with a woman but have always craved it. I assume i would do the same if i went without sex with a man, luckily enough, i haven't had to.
Gill x
Del hasn't always been bi, it is something that crept up on him over the years and only had his first bi experience a few years ago.
Is he really bi??? He has no desire to kiss or cuddle guys. He doesn't find guys attractive sexually. He just wants them purely for sex.
I believe i fall into the "bi" category for my sexuality.
It is something I have always known.
From very early years and first sexual experiences, I have been bi.
I am sexually attracted to both men and women. Always have been and always will be. They both fulfill different sexual desires.
I have gone for a while without having a sexual relationship with a woman but have always craved it. I assume i would do the same if i went without sex with a man, luckily enough, i haven't had to.
Gill x
Del hasn't always been bi, it is something that crept up on him over the years and only had his first bi experience a few years ago.
Is he really bi??? He has no desire to kiss or cuddle guys. He doesn't find guys attractive sexually. He just wants them purely for sex.
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Del hasn't always been bi, it is something that crept up on him over the years and only had his first bi experience a few years ago.
Is he really bi??? He has no desire to kiss or cuddle guys. He doesn't find guys attractive sexually. He just wants them purely for sex.
I'd label him as a 'slut' then
:lol: (only kidding btw... pure sex on legs more like 
)I think that you are who you are.. at the end of the day, as long as you have no problem finding what satisfies you, then you don't need a label.
hi there,
i see what you mean, now i think i am bi but i have never been with a women before but would love to, i have alway been attracted to men and women, i have tried to ingore the facted i could be Bi, as time went on i felt i had to do some thing about it and told my hubby, he was great about it and agreed its some i had to do, and ever since i have started to open up about my self a weight has been lifted off, its taken me a while to get this far, i will not no for sure how i feel untill i have my first date which will be some time after xmas. and can some one tell what MUNCHES is? is it the same as swingers?
newbe
kath xx
i see what you mean, now i think i am bi but i have never been with a women before but would love to, i have alway been attracted to men and women, i have tried to ingore the facted i could be Bi, as time went on i felt i had to do some thing about it and told my hubby, he was great about it and agreed its some i had to do, and ever since i have started to open up about my self a weight has been lifted off, its taken me a while to get this far, i will not no for sure how i feel untill i have my first date which will be some time after xmas. and can some one tell what MUNCHES is? is it the same as swingers?
newbe
kath xx
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Quote by bibabyk
hi there,
i see what you mean, now i think i am bi but i have never been with a women before but would love to, i have alway been attracted to men and women, i have tried to ingore the facted i could be Bi, as time went on i felt i had to do some thing about it and told my hubby, he was great about it and agreed its some i had to do, and ever since i have started to open up about my self a weight has been lifted off, its taken me a while to get this far, i will not no for sure how i feel untill i have my first date which will be some time after xmas. and can some one tell what MUNCHES is? is it the same as swingers?
newbe
kath xx
Hi Kath
Think you will find all you need to know in here
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/terminology/index.html
Quote by bibabyk
can some one tell what MUNCHES is? is it the same as swingers?
newbe
kath xx
Hi Kath
Someone is sure to send you a link to the terminology pages on here. I personally don't know how to du that - so shan't
But short and sweet - a munch is a social gathering - in a public place. It is purely for people to meet in a non sexual environment. After-Munch parties are slightly different
thank you every one, i have felt so welcomed and ta for the link i think i need all the help all i can get at the mo..
Yes i agree less lables and more toys, don't know what i would do with out my toys :P
Does any one think its a age thing, some thing happeneds as you get older? 10 year ago i wouldn't dream of doing any thing like this and now here i am, purhapes with age we get relaxed about things and stop worrying over things at are not important
hope every one has a good xmas
kath xxxx
Yes i agree less lables and more toys, don't know what i would do with out my toys :P
Does any one think its a age thing, some thing happeneds as you get older? 10 year ago i wouldn't dream of doing any thing like this and now here i am, purhapes with age we get relaxed about things and stop worrying over things at are not important
hope every one has a good xmas
kath xxxx
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Does any one think its a age thing, some thing happeneds as you get older? 10 year ago i wouldn't dream of doing any thing like this and now here i am, purhapes with age we get relaxed about things and stop worrying over things at are not important
Definately agree with that bibabyk. When I was younger I was too affected by social stigmas and opinions, now I am discovering what makes ME tick instead of worrying about what my mates might think or being labelled by ignorant vanilla people.
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Quote by bibabyk
Does any one think its a age thing, some thing happeneds as you get older? 10 year ago i wouldn't dream of doing any thing like this and now here i am, purhapes with age we get relaxed about things and stop worrying over things at are not important
hope every one has a good xmas
kath xxxx
Don't think it is an age thing.. I think it all depends on the individual person. fair enough I can say 10 years ago I wouldn't have dreamt of doing all the things I do today.. but then I would have only been 12 so that would be my reason
. I've always been comfortable enough with myself and who I am with (regardless of sex) to say a big 'get a life' to anyone who tried to box me in, label me, and make me suffer for what I chose to do. Quote by bibabyk
Does any one think its a age thing, some thing happeneds as you get older? 10 year ago i wouldn't dream of doing any thing like this and now here i am, purhapes with age we get relaxed about things and stop worrying over things at are not important
Ooouuuu! I certainly hope so. The more 'mature' ladies that come on here the better :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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How did Daz "know" ??
Or was it a wishful guess ?? :-)
I'm not sure really - he said it was cos i liked looking at his porn mags more than he did, lol!! Maybe part of it was a wishful guess, but im glad he spotted it, otherwise i might never have known, or admitted it!
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Does any one think its a age thing, some thing happeneds as you get older? 10 year ago i wouldn't dream of doing any thing like this and now here i am, purhapes with age we get relaxed about things and stop worrying over things at are not important
Definately agree with that bibabyk. When I was younger I was too affected by social stigmas and opinions, now I am discovering what makes ME tick instead of worrying about what my mates might think or being labelled by ignorant vanilla people.
I would say age has a certain amount to do with it for some people, or at least self-confidence which tends to come with experience.
I think as your self-confidence increases it is easier to be open about preferences that are outside what you perceive as normal.
Roger the Dragon.
Ooh good thread Lou,certainly makes you think :? :?
I dont have a label for myself ....yet!!I love blokes and nothing gets me going more :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: But then again i also like women too ,but as yet i havent had a sexual experience with a woman,so i guess i'd class myself as curious???But i do find it difficult to try and work it out in my own head let alone explain it on here :? :? :?
I still think that im discovering myself and ive found out a lot about myself this year so it may even change again into next year,who knows!!
(sorry Lou i tried to make that make sense )
:? :? I dont have a label for myself ....yet!!I love blokes and nothing gets me going more :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: But then again i also like women too ,but as yet i havent had a sexual experience with a woman,so i guess i'd class myself as curious???But i do find it difficult to try and work it out in my own head let alone explain it on here :? :? :?
I still think that im discovering myself and ive found out a lot about myself this year so it may even change again into next year,who knows!!
(sorry Lou i tried to make that make sense
) S'ok Clare, it made sense to me, lol!! having given my views, i forgot to mention Daz!! 
his thought have always been this; he is 100% straight, he has often wondered what it would be like to receieve oral or a hand job from another man, but then, he would never want to try it practically.... so is he bi curious?? i dont think so purely on the basis that he prefers the theory to the practice!
his thought have always been this; he is 100% straight, he has often wondered what it would be like to receieve oral or a hand job from another man, but then, he would never want to try it practically.... so is he bi curious?? i dont think so purely on the basis that he prefers the theory to the practice! Quote by dazandlou
S'ok Clare, it made sense to me, lol!! having given my views, i forgot to mention Daz!!
I would have thought that would be more in the 'fantasy' category, the things you think about but wouldn't actually want to do in real life. I suppose it depends how close he is to being tempted to give it a try.
What an interesting thread!
Just as I always thought cunnilingus was an Irish airline until I discovered dogging, so I always thought I was gay until I discovered dogging.
Sex with girlfriends never felt satisfying or right when I was in my twenties. When I met the man I love I knew I was definitley gay. But more recently, getting on a bit, and having discovered dogging, I realise there is a heterosexual side to me which is unsatisfied.
In terms of an emotional relationship and stability, I don't think you can have it both ways even if you see your sexuality as bi. Someone has to be number one in your life and in my case that is another man. I have had a fling with a transvestite and another fling with a female to male transexual. The first made me realise that women's underwear was sexy, even when worn by a man. The second made me realise how sexy female genitalia are, even when on a hairy bearded, tattooed skinhead.
Now I would describe myself as a pussy-starved bi male, who is always on the look out for women who will let me explore their manifold fanny-folds. Some of the sexiest times I have recently had have been in dark car parks on my knees with my head buried in the wonders of a cunt, tongue flicking around clit!
Some people say that makes me a pervert - I don't care. I know what I like and I know I love my man.
One irritation though: I wish straight doggers wouldn't be so defensive about being straight. There is no need to get nasty towards those you think might be gay or bi. A simple "NO" is all that is required if you think someone you don't fancy might be interested in you. No need for the threats. We're all different and need to respect that.
Thanks to all the contributers who have made this such an interesting thread.
Just as I always thought cunnilingus was an Irish airline until I discovered dogging, so I always thought I was gay until I discovered dogging.
Sex with girlfriends never felt satisfying or right when I was in my twenties. When I met the man I love I knew I was definitley gay. But more recently, getting on a bit, and having discovered dogging, I realise there is a heterosexual side to me which is unsatisfied.
In terms of an emotional relationship and stability, I don't think you can have it both ways even if you see your sexuality as bi. Someone has to be number one in your life and in my case that is another man. I have had a fling with a transvestite and another fling with a female to male transexual. The first made me realise that women's underwear was sexy, even when worn by a man. The second made me realise how sexy female genitalia are, even when on a hairy bearded, tattooed skinhead.
Now I would describe myself as a pussy-starved bi male, who is always on the look out for women who will let me explore their manifold fanny-folds. Some of the sexiest times I have recently had have been in dark car parks on my knees with my head buried in the wonders of a cunt, tongue flicking around clit!
Some people say that makes me a pervert - I don't care. I know what I like and I know I love my man.
One irritation though: I wish straight doggers wouldn't be so defensive about being straight. There is no need to get nasty towards those you think might be gay or bi. A simple "NO" is all that is required if you think someone you don't fancy might be interested in you. No need for the threats. We're all different and need to respect that.
Thanks to all the contributers who have made this such an interesting thread.
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One irritation though: I wish straight doggers wouldn't be so defensive about being straight. There is no need to get nasty towards those you think might be gay or bi. A simple "NO" is all that is required if you think someone you don't fancy might be interested in you. No need for the threats. We're all different and need to respect that.
That's something that has always bothered me too, a lot of people will say to people who are gay or bi that they are 'totally straight' in a very defensive way. There isn't really a need for it, I think most of us can accept gracefully what someones sexual preferences are and respect them. I'm not going to go trying to 'convert' anyones sexuality, but if we fancy each other then that's ok by me!
I don't label myself, maybe other people do - I don't mind that really so long as they don't then stick me on a shelf
I'm very much attracted to women, but there are men I find myself attracted to and I do want to touch them, but then I'm a very touchy feely, tactile person. I don't feel the urge to kiss these guys or have sexual contact with them. I don't know what that means and it doesn't worry me one way or another.
I'm probably quite androgynous in my mind but male in my sexuality - so to use and extend the nomenclature that Marya (I think it was) adopted, I'm emotionally Straight, mentally Bi and sexually Straight (so far).
Maybe I'm both confused and inexperienced
SA
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I'm very much attracted to women, but there are men I find myself attracted to and I do want to touch them, but then I'm a very touchy feely, tactile person. I don't feel the urge to kiss these guys or have sexual contact with them. I don't know what that means and it doesn't worry me one way or another.
I'm probably quite androgynous in my mind but male in my sexuality - so to use and extend the nomenclature that Marya (I think it was) adopted, I'm emotionally Straight, mentally Bi and sexually Straight (so far).
Maybe I'm both confused and inexperienced
SA
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Bumping this up after a conversation I had with someone today in the real world (and following on from the "confusion" explanation I gave to Dambuster on Saturday)
We were talking about the sexual line theory (most conversations I have turn to sex ) - with 100% straight at one end and 100% gay on the other.
100/% Str8<-----------------------100%Bi------------------------>100% Gay
............................................................................ Me^
You get the picture I'm sure. :?
Anyway - she put herself as 100% straight. Wasn't aggressive about it - but knew that there was no way she was ever going to end up in my bed. She had never even fantasised about another woman.
Now I know someone else who used to say she was straight. But that may change :twisted: If the text I got on Saturday night was anything to go by - she's definitely changed the label!!! (and I am so going to get told off for that!!!!)
So really my question is to the straight women on the site - how do you know that you are 100% straight? Do you never fantasise about other women?
I have never been 100% anything and I did find the conversation I had today very interesting becuase she was so adamant.
I'd be interested in hearing the views of a slightly more sexually liberated "audience".
We were talking about the sexual line theory (most conversations I have turn to sex
) - with 100% straight at one end and 100% gay on the other.100/% Str8<-----------------------100%Bi------------------------>100% Gay
............................................................................ Me^
You get the picture I'm sure. :?
Anyway - she put herself as 100% straight. Wasn't aggressive about it - but knew that there was no way she was ever going to end up in my bed. She had never even fantasised about another woman.
Now I know someone else who used to say she was straight. But that may change :twisted: If the text I got on Saturday night was anything to go by - she's definitely changed the label!!!
(and I am so going to get told off for that!!!!) So really my question is to the straight women on the site - how do you know that you are 100% straight? Do you never fantasise about other women?
I have never been 100% anything and I did find the conversation I had today very interesting becuase she was so adamant.
I'd be interested in hearing the views of a slightly more sexually liberated "audience".
I try not to think of sexuality as a line because it puts bisexuality as a half way house, a bridge or a thoroughfare between the two 'legitimate' categories, when i feel it is a different thing. Whilst straight and gay are maybe gendered, bi is not? Not sure...Reading too much sociology...
I've known I was into boys from the day I became 'consciously aware'. My first experience of lust was Kevin Thorne at age 4 1/2. At 13, I got awfully mixed up because whenever I looked at this girl in my class I'd go all lusty, which usually only happened with boys. By 14, I was having very explicit fantasies about a different girl who dominated my every thought (and she never knew...).
By 15 I accepted that I was bi but assumed I'd have to keep it a secret for the rest of my life. I don't know why I thought other girls were 'allowed' to be bi and I wasn't. I nearly had my chance with a cute indie-girl friend at 15, but it was too close to home for us both, and she was religious.
When I started having boyfriends at 16 I managed fairly successfully to just forget about it, but I knew the irritation of it being a secret would eat away at me.
Now, I'm 24, and in a truly happy relationship with a man and I came out to him and my friends (and anyone who would listen!) a few months ago. I'm so happy...it's ike a big cloud going away. I don't need to be 'allowed' any more. I say how things will be in my own life.
And now I'm here and we're looking for some unemotional, sexual playtime
:twisted:
I can't wait!!!
I've known I was into boys from the day I became 'consciously aware'. My first experience of lust was Kevin Thorne at age 4 1/2. At 13, I got awfully mixed up because whenever I looked at this girl in my class I'd go all lusty, which usually only happened with boys. By 14, I was having very explicit fantasies about a different girl who dominated my every thought (and she never knew...).
By 15 I accepted that I was bi but assumed I'd have to keep it a secret for the rest of my life. I don't know why I thought other girls were 'allowed' to be bi and I wasn't. I nearly had my chance with a cute indie-girl friend at 15, but it was too close to home for us both, and she was religious.
When I started having boyfriends at 16 I managed fairly successfully to just forget about it, but I knew the irritation of it being a secret would eat away at me.
Now, I'm 24, and in a truly happy relationship with a man and I came out to him and my friends (and anyone who would listen!) a few months ago. I'm so happy...it's ike a big cloud going away. I don't need to be 'allowed' any more. I say how things will be in my own life.
And now I'm here and we're looking for some unemotional, sexual playtime
:twisted:
I can't wait!!!
