To boost the health of the nation should eating be banned in pubs and confined to ghettos refered to only as 'eateries or bistro's , restaurants etc.
That way genuine drinkers could enjoy a good drink without half the bar staff disappering all the time to serve curry in a basket to non drinkers? (ok so the profit margin maybe slightly higher on curry than brown ale)
Also people who want to smoke in pubs could avoid offending people eating garlic bloody bread!!!
we could move the practice along and also ban drinking in pubs, instead make park benches popular again and boost the off licence trade. Smokers could then congregate in pubs as a peacefull heaven, pipes could become fashionable again and differing strengths, such as tobbaco toXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXcould be given a chance.
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Should eating be banned in pubs?
Totally agree mate.
I lived on the canals for 7 years in th 1990s and saw most of my favourite "drinking" pubs slowly transform themselves into beer gardened, fake oak beamed, plastic menu`d, pub grub, all day breakfast, sunday roast for bloody nine, kids eat free, bollocky load a shite
:x Its a sorry state of affairs if you ask me. 
You cant find a decent drinkers pub these days, you know the ones, they sell beer n fags n if your hungry, you can dine on delicious roasted peanuts, served on a bed of plastic wrapper, enveloped in a sprinkle of salt
I lived on the canals for 7 years in th 1990s and saw most of my favourite "drinking" pubs slowly transform themselves into beer gardened, fake oak beamed, plastic menu`d, pub grub, all day breakfast, sunday roast for bloody nine, kids eat free, bollocky load a shite
:x Its a sorry state of affairs if you ask me. You cant find a decent drinkers pub these days, you know the ones, they sell beer n fags n if your hungry, you can dine on delicious roasted peanuts, served on a bed of plastic wrapper, enveloped in a sprinkle of salt
Sex God
Quote by dali lama
Also people who want to smoke in pubs could avoid offending people eating garlic bloody bread!!!
GARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRLIC BREAD
Sorry, just felt compelled to do that before dargento sees this thread
:lol: :lol: Quote by Dino
You cant find a decent drinkers pub these days, you know the ones, they sell beer n fags n if your hungry, you can dine on delicious roasted peanuts, served on a bed of plastic wrapper, enveloped in a sprinkle of salt
You want to come up here Dino, we've got loads, some have only just progressed from sawdust on the floors to carpeting
Fee
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Sex God
Yep! :thumbup:
Restaurants are for people who want to eat. Pubs are for people who want to drink, have a fag and...........erm.................well.............use the toilet?
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Restaurants are for people who want to eat. Pubs are for people who want to drink, have a fag and...........erm.................well.............use the toilet?
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Quote by MidlandsBob
Sorry, but as a none smoker, a total ban on smoking in public places is the only way to go in my opinion. Afterall, who wants to go into a pub to eat a meal and have the awful smell and hanging in the air of cigarette smoke?
Me I enjoy a cigarette or a cigar with my coffee after a meal..so what gives anyone the right to tell me i am wrong ..I am pursuing a perfectly legal (for now) pass time...personally i cant stand people chewing gum but its legal and i have no right to put my oar in so i will shut the f**k up and not lecture people about the error of there ways
rant over
Quote by SirLee
Me I enjoy a cigarette or a cigar with my coffee after a meal..so what gives anyone the right to tell me i am wrong ..I am pursuing a perfectly legal (for now) pass time...personally i cant stand people chewing gum but its legal and i have no right to put my oar in so i will shut the f**k up and not lecture people about the error of there ways
rant over
well put - good rant!
Quote by Steve_Mids
Afterall, who wants to go into a pub to eat a meal
I thought the point of a pub was a place that served beer
Its the last haven for guys to visit so they can have a skinfull and a smoke while the domestics are busy at home doing the lunch/cleaning/washing etc
:D :D :D :D better heep your head down the emily pankhurst brigade will be here shortly
I love eating in pubs and downing a bottle of wine followed by a liquer coffee .... ban the smokers who make me cough and sneeze as they blow their smoke over me and my food.
Ban the slot machines too .. noisy and ruinous to decent people.
Ban the jukebox with blaring music or the disco with flashing lights
Lets have more of the oak log fires with large seats and wooden tables with candles on and quiet ambient music in the background and local produced strong ale, and serving local delicacies ... now thats my kind of pub
DD
Ban the slot machines too .. noisy and ruinous to decent people.
Ban the jukebox with blaring music or the disco with flashing lights
Lets have more of the oak log fires with large seats and wooden tables with candles on and quiet ambient music in the background and local produced strong ale, and serving local delicacies ... now thats my kind of pub
DD
Quote by markz
Afterall, who wants to go into a pub to eat a meal
I thought the point of a pub was a place that served beer
Its the last haven for guys to visit so they can have a skinfull and a smoke while the domestics are busy at home doing the lunch/cleaning/washing etc
:D :D :D :D better heep your head down the emily pankhurst brigade will be here shortly
Dont panic Markz, I have already slapped him for it
:lol:Shireen
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Quote by cool4catz
Yes but other people chewing gum doesn't affect your health does it....unless maybe you step on some gum that someone has spat out, and it sticks to your foot and you realise there's something sticky on the bottom of your shoe and it starts to really annoy you and then when you're halfway across a zebra crossing you become so distracted you stop to look down at your shoe and examine it and then a big 17 tonne artic wipes you out......or something.
there are plenty of pubs that do food that have already band smokers. so non smokers have a choice were to go. unfortunately gum is allowed everywhere
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artics weigh 44 tonne
Quote by SirLee
Sorry, but as a none smoker, a total ban on smoking in public places is the only way to go in my opinion. Afterall, who wants to go into a pub to eat a meal and have the awful smell and hanging in the air of cigarette smoke?
Me I enjoy a cigarette or a cigar with my coffee after a meal..so what gives anyone the right to tell me i am wrong ..I am pursuing a perfectly legal (for now) pass time...personally i cant stand people chewing gum but its legal and i have no right to put my oar in so i will shut the f**k up and not lecture people about the error of there ways
rant over
I have the right not to breath in dangerous chemicals......surely that right..the right to live comes well above any other consideration. I would like to go home and wake up in morning NOT with all my clothes and hair smelling like an ashtray. Smoking should be banned in all public places, and like any other workplace, there will be zones outside, where if you want to go and smoke you can. remember that by last years figures, only 20% of the population now smoke. Why should the 80% have to put up with the effects brought about by the few. Just save yourself some money and pack it in.
Quote by dali lama
To boost the health of the nation should eating be banned in pubs and confined to ghettos refered to only as 'eateries or bistro's , restaurants etc.
That way genuine drinkers could enjoy a good drink without half the bar staff disappering all the time to serve curry in a basket to non drinkers? (ok so the profit margin maybe slightly higher on curry than brown ale)
Also people who want to smoke in pubs could avoid offending people eating garlic bloody bread!!!
we could move the practice along and also ban drinking in pubs, instead make park benches popular again and boost the off licence trade. Smokers could then congregate in pubs as a peacefull heaven, pipes could become fashionable again and differing strengths, such as tobbaco to XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX could be given a chance.
I may stand for parliament on this manifesto.
Eating will not be banned in pubs as i make the place more money than smokers or drinkers put together with 100 per cent mark up on food sold in pubs its a better money make than beer, pub will always sell food and beer first the smokers will get kicked out long before.
Orgasminator
Yeah lets ban cigarettes from all indoor venues, and force smokers into little bus shelteresque wind breaks nd watch with a smile on our faces as 35 people get piss wet through in the pouring rain, trying to keep their fags dry...........
Then, we loose the estimated 2.3 billion pounds of cigarette tax due to people stopping smoking we can smile contentedly as we watch the remaining few smokers die of pneumonia because an already well overstretched NHS hasn't got the funds to treat them after they have got piss wet through from not being able to smoke inside.....
Lets get real people, I am a smoker, have been for a long time and probably will be for a long time. Its killing me day by day I know, we all know it, but it isn't going to change.
The government simply can't afford to loose the revenue it generates...... funny old game politics... on one hand they tell us we should pack up and talk about ways to discourage smokers...... but if every smoker quit tomorrow, this country would face bankrupcy.. so come on all you none smokers.... light one up and do you bit for the country's economy.
Then, we loose the estimated 2.3 billion pounds of cigarette tax due to people stopping smoking we can smile contentedly as we watch the remaining few smokers die of pneumonia because an already well overstretched NHS hasn't got the funds to treat them after they have got piss wet through from not being able to smoke inside.....
Lets get real people, I am a smoker, have been for a long time and probably will be for a long time. Its killing me day by day I know, we all know it, but it isn't going to change.
The government simply can't afford to loose the revenue it generates...... funny old game politics... on one hand they tell us we should pack up and talk about ways to discourage smokers...... but if every smoker quit tomorrow, this country would face bankrupcy.. so come on all you none smokers.... light one up and do you bit for the country's economy.
Quote by deancannock
Sorry, but as a none smoker, a total ban on smoking in public places is the only way to go in my opinion. Afterall, who wants to go into a pub to eat a meal and have the awful smell and hanging in the air of cigarette smoke?
Me I enjoy a cigarette or a cigar with my coffee after a meal..so what gives anyone the right to tell me i am wrong ..I am pursuing a perfectly legal (for now) pass time...personally i cant stand people chewing gum but its legal and i have no right to put my oar in so i will shut the f**k up and not lecture people about the error of there ways
rant over
I have the right not to breath in dangerous chemicals......surely that right..the right to live comes well above any other consideration. I would like to go home and wake up in morning NOT with all my clothes and hair smelling like an ashtray. Smoking should be banned in all public places, and like any other workplace, there will be zones outside, where if you want to go and smoke you can. remember that by last years figures, only 20% of the population now smoke. Why should the 80% have to put up with the effects brought about by the few. Just save yourself some money and pack it in.
you have the right not to breath other peoples smoke but we have the right to smoke ....bit of a catch 22...lets say this will never be agreed on by both sides of the debate. the differential between the two positions is just far too great..personally i try to smoke considerately and do concede some don't..the biggest problem i can see is that smoking smells....so does cow shit but does that stop you enjoying the countryside...no...so why let smokers ruin your night out..like cow shit its just part of the environment you are in and will be until the nanny state we live in ban it and as sleazy quite eloquently put.. that is not going to happen...and as for" just save yourself some money and pack in" ooooohhhh i wish it was that easy
i don't wish to start any arguments or bad feeling with this post i just want to point out that there are two sides to this and i can see both sides....... yes i want to quit as i think most( not all) smokers do..but its not that easy. if you want to get on your high horse and tell me i have no will power that's your choice......very ill informed but it is your choice....and i wont knock you for that. all i/we ask for is a little understanding that we are doing nothing wrong .......over to you
Sex God
Sir Lee i agree with your post.
I'm an ex-smoker of some years now but it wasn't easy, primarily 'cause I enjoyed smoking (despite the health implications). I did eventually stop after a few attempts although LadyFeeBee did have a rather "novel" way of persuding me not to smoke.. :twisted: :twisted: which did help.
It's funny 'cause I used to think of myself as a considerate smoker who didn't light up in company during a meal and would wait until everyone in my company stopped smoking before having a smoke.
Now thats all very well but as a non smoker still eating in a restaurant NEXT to a "considerate" smoker it doesn't help!!
I'm all in favour of banning smoking in places where people eat.
I do however accept that pubs are...well.......pubs and if I go into one, I expect to encounter people smoking. I really dont think it's fair to expect people not to smoke when they are only out to enjoy a pint or two.
My views are my own......dont shoot me for them please.
I'm an ex-smoker of some years now but it wasn't easy, primarily 'cause I enjoyed smoking (despite the health implications). I did eventually stop after a few attempts although LadyFeeBee did have a rather "novel" way of persuding me not to smoke.. :twisted: :twisted: which did help.
It's funny 'cause I used to think of myself as a considerate smoker who didn't light up in company during a meal and would wait until everyone in my company stopped smoking before having a smoke.
Now thats all very well but as a non smoker still eating in a restaurant NEXT to a "considerate" smoker it doesn't help!!
I'm all in favour of banning smoking in places where people eat.
I do however accept that pubs are...well.......pubs and if I go into one, I expect to encounter people smoking. I really dont think it's fair to expect people not to smoke when they are only out to enjoy a pint or two.
My views are my own......dont shoot me for them please.
Sex God
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, the proposed ban is about the protection of workers from the 'risk' of passive smoking, it is not about the comfort or discomfort of the patrons. Like it or not, it will happen.
Sex God
Well I'm a lifetime smoker as well, but in all honesty I don't really care either way whether it's banned or not.......... I'd be ok going outside, or just do what I do when I fly......... Don't smoke.
It is a valid point though, there will be a day though not in my lifetime I suspect when all the non-smokers will be paying the tax that all us smokers have being paying all those years, because there will be too few smokers left (cos we've all died or given up) and the funds will still be needed
It is a valid point though, there will be a day though not in my lifetime I suspect when all the non-smokers will be paying the tax that all us smokers have being paying all those years, because there will be too few smokers left (cos we've all died or given up) and the funds will still be needed
Quote by Sexysteph
This comes down very brutally to fact - smoking kills not just the smoker but INNOCENT people (adults and Children) who do not smoke but inhale the crap given off by smokers who do not give a damn. This is a proven fact.
Would any smoker not feel guilty if their loved ones who DO NOT smoke contract Lung Cancer from smoke inhalation. There is no catch 22 when it is put like that. You could be the cause of a loved one being made very ill or even killing them.
I truly support a ban to prevent kids and innocent people who choose not to kill themselves through smoking having to cope with Cancer and death through no fault of their own.
Sorry if that offends but it is reality and my own opinion.
Steph
steph don't get wound up babe if that's your opinion that's fine ...my opinion is different..what i am trying to say is we all have rights in this country and we can express them.....at the moment the law is a farce..we have to find a compromise that we can all live with but this new law doesn't do it....yes have separate smoking areas and i agree if you don't want to eat with smokers you should not have to and as for kids they should not be in pubs in the first place ...as for smoking at home ...that's another debate for somewhere else ....the upshot is 70% of pub profits come from wet sales and 30% from food so if the law comes in and you were a landlord which would you drop ???? it will end up a lot of pubs closing and a lot more dropping food so we will not be able to get a decent meal and a drink in the same premises....yes there is a risk of harm being in the same room as a smoker but they are far outweighed by crossing the road to get to the pub in the first place...life is a matter of risk assessment and if we didn't take risk it would be boring (sorry rambling) ...its time we all decided what we want....no we will never get it but we may with compromise get somewhere close
i agree entirely with you steph in a family pub there should be segregation but the new law don't work ..if we go out for a meal with the kids and we want a smoke we go to the public bar not sit at the table....that's not what the law says though...the law as it stands will only cause disharmony the only way forward as i can see is if you want a meal in a pub, smoke in the bar. as for restaurants that's a different matter i personally would not light up in a restaurant were other diners have come out specifically for a meal and i do agree that a smoking ban would work in that situation .but a pub is primarily a place were people (adults ) go for a drink and the crack in my own opinion the law has been rushed through with no thought as to the consequences
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steph next time i meet you i am going to actually talk to you ...you sound like an intelligent woman
Lee xx
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steph next time i meet you i am going to actually talk to you ...you sound like an intelligent woman
Lee xx
