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Should smacking children be banned?
Sex God
When my son was 3 he ran into a main road, than God it was quiet at the time. But we used that road regularly. I had to make sure he NEVER did it again. So I told him that he must never run into the road and if he did it would hurt. And I slapped him an his bare leg. That taught him that running into the road hurts. It was that or let him learn the hard way.
But slaps must only be used with love and for a clear reason. Some of these 'banners' can't tell the difference between a discipline slap and a beating. These are the people we should be worried about.
But slaps must only be used with love and for a clear reason. Some of these 'banners' can't tell the difference between a discipline slap and a beating. These are the people we should be worried about.
Sex God
Quote by browningand my world to, i have slapped my sons hands or legs on the odd occasion, not hurting him (which is what my mind says abuse is) just a short quick shock they know you mean business
And in my world there is............
Is my son scared of me - hell no far from it
Is my son abused - hell no
Am i wrong for slapping his hands - imho no
Is my son happy - yes very much so
Does my son think i treat him with fairness - yes and he has said this himself
Quote by foxylady2209
When my son was 3 he ran into a main road, than God it was quiet at the time. But we used that road regularly. I had to make sure he NEVER did it again. So I told him that he must never run into the road and if he did it would hurt. And I slapped him an his bare leg. That taught him that running into the road hurts. It was that or let him learn the hard way.
But slaps must only be used with love and for a clear reason. Some of these 'banners' can't tell the difference between a discipline slap and a beating. These are the people we should be worried about.
Foxy -
I am one of those "banners" who doesn't see a difference - it's all different levels of the same thing to me - out of interest, why should people be worried about me?
Quote by Cherrytree
When my son was 3 he ran into a main road, than God it was quiet at the time. But we used that road regularly. I had to make sure he NEVER did it again. So I told him that he must never run into the road and if he did it would hurt. And I slapped him an his bare leg. That taught him that running into the road hurts. It was that or let him learn the hard way.
But slaps must only be used with love and for a clear reason. Some of these 'banners' can't tell the difference between a discipline slap and a beating. These are the people we should be worried about.
Foxy -
I am one of those "banners" who doesn't see a difference - it's all different levels of the same thing to me - out of interest, why should people be worried about me?
I read it as people who give a beating to people we should be worried about.
But they will correct me if I am wrong
Dave_Notts
Quote by Cherrytree
But slaps must only be used with love and for a clear reason. Some of these 'banners' can't tell the difference between a discipline slap and a beating. These are the people we should be worried about.
Foxy -
I am one of those "banners" who doesn't see a difference - it's all different levels of the same thing to me - out of interest, why should people be worried about me?
You can slap with love? :doh:
Cherrytree ....... they need to worry about me too!
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Sex God
Quote by Cherrytree
When my son was 3 he ran into a main road, than God it was quiet at the time. But we used that road regularly. I had to make sure he NEVER did it again. So I told him that he must never run into the road and if he did it would hurt. And I slapped him an his bare leg. That taught him that running into the road hurts. It was that or let him learn the hard way.
But slaps must only be used with love and for a clear reason. Some of these 'banners' can't tell the difference between a discipline slap and a beating. These are the people we should be worried about.
Foxy -
I am one of those "banners" who doesn't see a difference - it's all different levels of the same thing to me - out of interest, why should people be worried about me?
I doubt whether you personally are someone I would worry about (I did say 'some'). It's the social workers who accuse loving parents of abuse for being reported smacking a misbehaving child in the supermarket, and remove that child screaming and traumatised from its parents arms at 3 in the morning that are the ones who see a slap for correction as the same thing as a beating that breaks a child's arm, ribs and spirit. These people worry me.
There are many reasons for wanting to ban smacking across the board, but I feel that better education and support for the struggling and overwhelmed parents would dofar more good.
I totally agree that more support for struggling and overwhelmed parents would be a great thing.
Are we saying then that one of the reasons children get slapped, hit - whatever we want to call it - is sometimes because parents are struggling and overwhelmed?
Yes of course this happens.
Sometimes children get hit because the parent is taking out his/her frustrations on the child. It makes the parent feel better.
I don't know what the answer is.
But I do feel that a law banning hitting would be a step in the right direction.
Are we saying then that one of the reasons children get slapped, hit - whatever we want to call it - is sometimes because parents are struggling and overwhelmed?
Yes of course this happens.
Sometimes children get hit because the parent is taking out his/her frustrations on the child. It makes the parent feel better.
I don't know what the answer is.
But I do feel that a law banning hitting would be a step in the right direction.
Quote by browning
But is it child abuse? some people say yes, some say no.
That is why this subject will never be solved.
Abuse takes on many forms, physical, mental, emotional, abuse can be neglect by neglecting to give a child basic needs, food, safety, etc.,
It's not a nice subject at all.
emotional abuse is far more damaging than smacking (note i said SMACKING meaning a slap on the hand, butt, legs or whatever NOT a beating)
constantly screaming at a child or telling them theyre stupid/worthless/useless/the cause of all your problems/will never amount to anything/could do better
will damage the psyche far more deeply than a short sharp shock.
I slap my kids if they get out of line, but i rarely have to because the knowledge of getting a slap is far more of a deterrent, and just a glare suffices on most occasions, my kids are happy, well balanced, well mannered individuals, but at the end of the day they know where the boundaries are, and a child without clear boundaries is an asbo waiting to happen.
constantly screaming at a child or telling them theyre stupid/worthless/useless/the cause of all your problems/will never amount to anything/could do better
will damage the psyche far more deeply than a short sharp shock.
I slap my kids if they get out of line, but i rarely have to because the knowledge of getting a slap is far more of a deterrent, and just a glare suffices on most occasions, my kids are happy, well balanced, well mannered individuals, but at the end of the day they know where the boundaries are, and a child without clear boundaries is an asbo waiting to happen.
Sex God
saying the knowledge of s slap stops them means that they are scared to do something, because they will get a slap!
i want my child to behave, but not at the expense of her being scared not to behave.
i want my child to behave, but not at the expense of her being scared not to behave.
Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I feel a lot of people are drifting from the points I asked. It would be nice if you could read my first comments on the first page and then comment on what I have written.
Thanks xxx
its a discussion they tend to make different directions now and then
Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I feel a lot of people are drifting from the points I asked. It would be nice if you could read my first comments on the first page and then comment on what I have written.
Thanks xxx
on what YOU have written,
yes i think it is wrong.
nom i dont think it would do your kids a favour you being locked up, but i also dont think it does them a favour you hitting them.
no, i dont thin all parents should be tarred with the same brush, so someone who hots their kids on the leggs is not as bad as someone who hits their kids with a stick. however, just because there is a worse situation, does not make the first situation ok IMO
also, with issues like this, where people feel strongly about it, it is normal for the conversation to move on slightly, people reply to other posters,just like in a conversation in real life- not just to the OP. the only way to keep a conversation just about your own personal post is to take it to pm.
hope that helps
Casanova
I got a smack when I was little and I beleive there are a lot of kids out there that need a wooden spoon to the back of the legs like I did.
I beleive it brought me up to be a good person and know my right from wrong
:smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: smack them all when there bad 
I beleive it brought me up to be a good person and know my right from wrong
:smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: :smackbottom: smack them all when there bad Sex God
Quote by Dizzy_DonnaCouple:shock: so if you do something that I percieve to be wrong, is it acceptable for me to hit you on the leg with a wooden spoon? ( or any other weapon for that matter!)
I got a smack when I was little and I beleive there are a lot of kids out there that need a wooden spoon to the back of the legs like I did.
I beleive it brought me up to be a good person and know my right from wrong
i think i am going to take a leaf out of blondes book and retire from this thread as i do not want to get myself worked up over this.
Casanova
I know right from wrong where by children dont if needs to be enforced i'm very much with my nans way of thinking with the belt or cane I dont a condon abuse for no reason but when a child is bullying smaller childen they should be punished and sitting in the naughty chair just doesn't do it for most children. 
Quote by well_busty_babe
I feel a lot of people are drifting from the points I asked. It would be nice if you could read my first comments on the first page and then comment on what I have written.
Thanks xxx
on what YOU have written,
yes i think it is wrong.
nom i dont think it would do your kids a favour you being locked up, but i also dont think it does them a favour you hitting them.
no, i dont thin all parents should be tarred with the same brush, so someone who hots their kids on the leggs is not as bad as someone who hits their kids with a stick. however, just because there is a worse situation, does not make the first situation ok IMO
also, with issues like this, where people feel strongly about it, it is normal for the conversation to move on slightly, people reply to other posters,just like in a conversation in real life- not just to the OP. the only way to keep a conversation just about your own personal post is to take it to pm.
hope that helps
hey I didnt mean to offend if I had..I am new to this forum thing and I am enjoying the debates so carry on. we all have different opinions thats one of the only things that we have left in this country. Lets hope we keep it that way.
Sex God
Quote by Theladyisaminx
I feel a lot of people are drifting from the points I asked. It would be nice if you could read my first comments on the first page and then comment on what I have written.
Thanks xxx
That's what happens in a discussion; it takes different turns and goes off at a tangent.
Sex God
Perhaps I should just mention that my son is 20, well balanced, non-violent and working on a Maths A' level at home prior to going to Uni in September. I just checked with him - he says he is un-scarred (mentally or physically) from his upbringing and considers the relationship he has with both his parents is better and more supportive than any he sees his friends have with theirs.
Oh, and I found depriving him of treats was a better discipline method in most cases and smacking was rare and specific - not me lashing out in frustration.
Mind you when his 9 year old cousin told me to 'piss off' I had to put my hand in my pocket and keep it there. I just glared witheringly at her mother, but I don't think it had any effect.
Oh, and I found depriving him of treats was a better discipline method in most cases and smacking was rare and specific - not me lashing out in frustration.
Mind you when his 9 year old cousin told me to 'piss off' I had to put my hand in my pocket and keep it there. I just glared witheringly at her mother, but I don't think it had any effect.
and theres 2 sides to every coin.....for and against in all debates, thats why its called a debate, if we all shared the same opinions, life would be very boring indeed.
I admire the courage that people are saying hwat they feel and sticking by their convictions and comments, whichever side of the fence theyre on
I admire the courage that people are saying hwat they feel and sticking by their convictions and comments, whichever side of the fence theyre on
Quote by Dizzy_DonnaCouple
I know right from wrong where by children dont if needs to be enforced i'm very much with my nans way of thinking with the belt or cane I dont a condon abuse for no reason but when a child is bullying smaller childen they should be punished and sitting in the naughty chair just doesn't do it for most children.
Have you been hit with a belt or a cane?????????????
Do you know what that does to someone?????
Over and out from me too.
Casanova
yes I have like i said I had a smack as a child not all the time but when I deserved it me and my mum are best mates I was a night mare child and need a belt, wooden spoon or cane when I was bad it did me no harm at all :smile2:
Quote by foxylady2209
Perhaps I should just mention that my son is 20, well balanced, non-violent and working on a Maths A' level at home prior to going to Uni in September. I just checked with him - he says he is un-scarred (mentally or physically) from his upbringing and considers the relationship he has with both his parents is better and more supportive than any he sees his friends have with theirs.
Oh, and I found depriving him of treats was a better discipline method in most cases and smacking was rare and specific - not me lashing out in frustration.
Mind you when his 9 year old cousin told me to 'piss off' I had to put my hand in my pocket and keep it there. I just glared witheringly at her mother, but I don't think it had any effect.
My sixteen year old son thinks the same too, but there is love in our home and we support our children in all that they do. But I do believe and know there are childern out there without the love and just get the beatings, these are the ones that need protecting.
Casanova
Bonedigger Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject:
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Great very funny :thumbup: :thumbup:
