SHRep

9 Jun 2010

Dear Admin,
UPDATED - As the bugs with the implementation/Shrep are getting fixed, this is proving to be a useful 'optional' tool on SH

We consider selves to be fairly competent IT people, however SH Rep appears to be one of the most appalling pieces of application code from a user perspective that we've come across in over 30years each.
There certainly needs to be a major push / rethink on increasing the text in the various 'blue' windows on the SH REp screens so as to actually help people navigate this mess.
Additionally, we would have expected a proper User Guide or Forum posting to assist people rather than just the .pdf document, which can only be described as a 'newsletter'
Is it just us ?
- don't think so
Is it just new functionality ?
- not known to be resistant to change
Don't think so as all spoken to in various Chat rooms equally confused and bewildered.
The straw poll majority feedback so far is along the lines of "we've/I've tried, but until it's navigable we/I'm gonna dis-able it"
Yes the idea has a lot of merit, however you are condeming it's usefulness and benefit by a poor implementation and lack of practical support.
Sorry if this seems harsh and rather than sitting at the sides snipping, ask and we'll gladly pitch in and help you improve it

9 Jun 2010

Pretty much everything should appear within http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/leave/ to enable you to leave reputation when the criteria for shrep has been met, but I do agree that it needs to be clearer from the different parts of a profile you're looking at, I've started making a list together and thank you for all of the suggestions in the support tickets.
The missing image seems to happen after you get vouched, I've noted that as well.

9 Jun 2010

it seemed to be working fine earlier, i managed to get a vouch but for the life of me i dont know how lol
just wanted to know does it all come up automatically or do we have to click and do it manual ?

9 Jun 2010

Everything should come up automatically in http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/leave/
If you have a friend with shrep enabled and they don't appear let us know their name so that we can see if there is a bug.

9 Jun 2010

Reading the pdf, I saw the following 'benefit' in the meet section:
"It is a consensual system that is used only by two members mutually using the Shrep system."
So if I arrange a threesome, do I have to toss a coin to decide who can leave me feedback?
If I am involved in a bukkake session, and there are 5 blokes, does the woman/man at the centre of all this have to arrange 5 different uses of the Shrep system? Or maybe he/she could make it some kind of competition? "Whoever cums first can leave me feedback!"

9 Jun 2010

If you leave negative feedback is that not technically naming and shaming and so therefor against site rules
bolt

9 Jun 2010

Quote by two-4-more
If you leave negative feedback is that not technically naming and shaming and so therefor against site rules

oooOOOOoooohh Good question!!! :thumbup:
:bolt:

9 Jun 2010

Quote by essex34m
Reading the pdf, I saw the following 'benefit' in the meet section:
"It is a consensual system that is used only by two members mutually using the Shrep system."
So if I arrange a threesome, do I have to toss a coin to decide who can leave me feedback?
If I am involved in a bukkake session, and there are 5 blokes, does the woman/man at the centre of all this have to arrange 5 different uses of the Shrep system? Or maybe he/she could make it some kind of competition? "Whoever cums first can leave me feedback!"

I'm sorry that particular line needs to be revised - later into the development, we enabled a meeting to be created between multiple users, so it is not limited to just two, those who attended can all leave feedback for one another. Providing you have Shrep enabled, you can enter the Create Meeting section to see for yourself that adding more than one user is possible.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/meetings/create/

Quote by two-4-more
If you leave negative feedback is that not technically naming and shaming and so therefor against site rules

I hope this isn't a serious question, however I'll still give an answer. Using Shrep does not come under any scrutiny of the rules, it will be the only section of the site where users can (finally some may say) provide feedback of a meeting.

9 Jun 2010

We are trying to change some of the ibox text now as it seems that some of the revised text got over written while doing the update. It makes less than no sense at the moment in a few places. :sad:

9 Jun 2010

Quote by admin
Reading the pdf, I saw the following 'benefit' in the meet section:
"It is a consensual system that is used only by two members mutually using the Shrep system."
So if I arrange a threesome, do I have to toss a coin to decide who can leave me feedback?
If I am involved in a bukkake session, and there are 5 blokes, does the woman/man at the centre of all this have to arrange 5 different uses of the Shrep system? Or maybe he/she could make it some kind of competition? "Whoever cums first can leave me feedback!"

I'm sorry that particular line needs to be revised - later into the development, we enabled a meeting to be created between multiple users, so it is not limited to just two, those who attended can all leave feedback for one another. Providing your have Shrep enabled, you can enter the Create Meeting section to see for yourself that adding more than one user is possible.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/meetings/create/

Quote by two-4-more
If you leave negative feedback is that not technically naming and shaming and so therefor against site rules

I hope this isn't a serious question, however I'll still give an answer. Using Shrep does not come under any scrutiny of the rules, it will be the only section of the site where users can (finally some may say) provide feedback of a meeting.
Was semi-serious... its the one part of the system which is the most open to abuse and cause the most problems for anyone who uses it... have you ever tried to get neg feedback erased on ebay... you get an item delivered late or the wrong size or faulty item mention it and hey presto, no matter how quickly you sent the payment they give you bad feedback in return. As the expression's go, mud sticks, no smoke without fit blah blah blah

9 Jun 2010

Quote by two-4-more
Was semi-serious... its the one part of the system which is the most open to abuse and cause the most problems for anyone who uses it... have you ever tried to get neg feedback erased on ebay... you get an item delivered late or the wrong size or faulty item mention it and hey presto, no matter how quickly you sent the payment they give you bad feedback in return. As the expression's go, mud sticks, no smoke without fit blah blah blah

I think we can all agree that no system can be perfect, but it's pretty much as close as we can make it.

9 Jun 2010

Quote by admin
I hope this isn't a serious question, however I'll still give an answer. Using Shrep does not come under any scrutiny of the rules, it will be the only section of the site where users can (finally some may say) provide feedback of a meeting.

Why shouldn't it be a serious question, it is actually a good is it a case of no dissention among the ranks?
Although having looked at the screen shots on the pdf, there are a couple of shots that show negative feedback has been left, but if you look at the numbers section, which shows how much negative feedback has been left, the numbers are zero.
So seeing as single men can't read, does this mean that negative feedback will not apply to them, seeing as they won't be reading the comments?

9 Jun 2010

Quote by st3v3
Everything should come up automatically in http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/leave/
If you have a friend with shrep enabled and they don't appear let us know their name so that we can see if there is a bug.

St3v3
have a look at ticket # with examples, etc.
many thanks for fixing 2 of the other tickets, which we've flagged to 'close' lol

In Southampton next Tuesday, so happy to drop some 'beer vouchers' off by way of a meaningful thanks - yes IT Team Leader who knows gratitude is usually taken via the throat and of an alcohol based variety wink

9 Jun 2010

Quote by essex34m
Why shouldn't it be a serious question, it is actually a good is it a case of no dissention among the ranks?
Although having looked at the screen shots on the pdf, there are a couple of shots that show negative feedback has been left, but if you look at the numbers section, which shows how much negative feedback has been left, the numbers are zero.
So seeing as single men can't read, does this mean that negative feedback will not apply to them, seeing as they won't be reading the comments?

As posted, I hoped it wasn't a serious question. There has to be some sense that we wouldn't build a system which breaches our own policies and hopefully now this has been made clear.
The screenshots in the PDF file are simply graphical representations created before the system was designed, they were not taken from a live system so the inconsistency that you've noted was an overlook. If any user, whether male, female or couple, has Shrep enabled and they receive a negative feedback, the negative feedback will be displayed on the Shrep information.

9 Jun 2010

Quote by HnS
St3v3
have a look at ticket # with examples, etc.
many thanks for fixing 2 of the other tickets, which we've flagged to 'close'
In Southampton next Tuesday, so happy to drop some 'beer vouchers' off by way of a meaningful thanks - yes IT Team Leader who knows gratitude is usually taken via the throat and of an alcohol based variety

I've read that and its very helpful, I'm leaving it until the morning so that we can go through it in more detail and add some links to make things happen when needed.
I won't be in the office on Tuesday, but if you do want to visit the office for a look let us know smile

9 Jun 2010

St3v3 / Admin,
Positive suggestion lol

What's the chance of adding
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/assets/documents/shrep_001.pdf
(albet with the spotted faults at this time)
to the Information ":: Support" pages as part of either the existing FAQ or a new Shrep FAQ section ?
Yes I know that this appears as a .pdf/link on several of the Shrep pages 'announcing' this enhancement, however as these dis-appear or are replaced, perhaps something in the more normal support area might be beneficial ?

9 Jun 2010

Quote by admin
As posted, I hoped it wasn't a serious question. There has to be some sense that we wouldn't build a system which breaches our own policies and hopefully now this has been made clear.

No, it hasn't been made clear.
But I am not going to get into an argument about it, I would like to keep my membership.

9 Jun 2010

Quote by two-4-more
Reading the pdf, I saw the following 'benefit' in the meet section:
"It is a consensual system that is used only by two members mutually using the Shrep system."
So if I arrange a threesome, do I have to toss a coin to decide who can leave me feedback?
If I am involved in a bukkake session, and there are 5 blokes, does the woman/man at the centre of all this have to arrange 5 different uses of the Shrep system? Or maybe he/she could make it some kind of competition? "Whoever cums first can leave me feedback!"

I'm sorry that particular line needs to be revised - later into the development, we enabled a meeting to be created between multiple users, so it is not limited to just two, those who attended can all leave feedback for one another. Providing your have Shrep enabled, you can enter the Create Meeting section to see for yourself that adding more than one user is possible.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/meetings/create/

Quote by two-4-more
If you leave negative feedback is that not technically naming and shaming and so therefor against site rules

I hope this isn't a serious question, however I'll still give an answer. Using Shrep does not come under any scrutiny of the rules, it will be the only section of the site where users can (finally some may say) provide feedback of a meeting.
Was semi-serious... its the one part of the system which is the most open to abuse and cause the most problems for anyone who uses it... have you ever tried to get neg feedback erased on ebay... you get an item delivered late or the wrong size or faulty item mention it and hey presto, no matter how quickly you sent the payment they give you bad feedback in return. As the expression's go, mud sticks, no smoke without fit blah blah blah
Off topic BUT, on Ebay sellers have not been able to leave negative feedback for buyers for about a year now biggrin

9 Jun 2010

Quote by admin
Was semi-serious... its the one part of the system which is the most open to abuse and cause the most problems for anyone who uses it... have you ever tried to get neg feedback erased on ebay... you get an item delivered late or the wrong size or faulty item mention it and hey presto, no matter how quickly you sent the payment they give you bad feedback in return. As the expression's go, mud sticks, no smoke without fit blah blah blah

I think we can all agree that no system can be perfect, but it's pretty much as close as we can make it.
Yes nothing is perfect, but if something can be abused its best not to have it.
Judging by the response above you are saying that there is nothing that you can do to prevent it if "mud slinging" happens, and so there is a system in place which i would say looking at the forum (and not your poll results which i am not questioning) at least 60-70% didnt want in the first place, which is open to abuse and basically pointless.
May as well make it so only positive comments can be left, but then what is the point of having it... thats the way it works (or doesn't) on other sites and you will still find those who are verified are timewasters or idiots. Its all a matter of opinion. there are people on here we really like but others say they wouldn't go near and people we dislike who others really sing their praises. therefor i doubt very much we will use it. unless of course by some miracle it is a wonderful success, but i think we will stick to the tried and tested meet someone at a club, munch, social or pub and make a judgement on our own gut feeling and whether they turn up or not lol

9 Jun 2010

Quote by st3v3

St3v3
have a look at ticket # with examples, etc.
many thanks for fixing 2 of the other tickets, which we've flagged to 'close'
In Southampton next Tuesday, so happy to drop some 'beer vouchers' off by way of a meaningful thanks - yes IT Team Leader who knows gratitude is usually taken via the throat and of an alcohol based variety

I've read that and its very helpful, I'm leaving it until the morning so that we can go through it in more detail and add some links to make things happen when needed.
I won't be in the office on Tuesday, but if you do want to visit the office for a look let us know smile

St3v3,
no probs, bet been a long enough day already, but shout on that number tomorrow as will pitch in and help.
re Tuesday, just message us the location and will call by - hope they save you a pint :lol:

9 Jun 2010

Quote by tweeky
Reading the pdf, I saw the following 'benefit' in the meet section:
"It is a consensual system that is used only by two members mutually using the Shrep system."
So if I arrange a threesome, do I have to toss a coin to decide who can leave me feedback?
If I am involved in a bukkake session, and there are 5 blokes, does the woman/man at the centre of all this have to arrange 5 different uses of the Shrep system? Or maybe he/she could make it some kind of competition? "Whoever cums first can leave me feedback!"

I'm sorry that particular line needs to be revised - later into the development, we enabled a meeting to be created between multiple users, so it is not limited to just two, those who attended can all leave feedback for one another. Providing your have Shrep enabled, you can enter the Create Meeting section to see for yourself that adding more than one user is possible.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/meetings/create/

Quote by two-4-more
If you leave negative feedback is that not technically naming and shaming and so therefor against site rules

I hope this isn't a serious question, however I'll still give an answer. Using Shrep does not come under any scrutiny of the rules, it will be the only section of the site where users can (finally some may say) provide feedback of a meeting.
Was semi-serious... its the one part of the system which is the most open to abuse and cause the most problems for anyone who uses it... have you ever tried to get neg feedback erased on ebay... you get an item delivered late or the wrong size or faulty item mention it and hey presto, no matter how quickly you sent the payment they give you bad feedback in return. As the expression's go, mud sticks, no smoke without fit blah blah blah
Off topic BUT, on Ebay sellers have not been able to leave negative feedback for buyers for about a year now biggrin

Damn, how am i going to complain about the laptop i bought that won't go down on me!

9 Jun 2010

Quote by Kaznkev
A wierd glitch, i want to vouch for someone i have met as a friend,we are friends on the site,but no shrep comes up on her profile

They must have shrep turned off (thats the default setting)

9 Jun 2010

Quote by two-4-more
Reading the pdf, I saw the following 'benefit' in the meet section:
"It is a consensual system that is used only by two members mutually using the Shrep system."
So if I arrange a threesome, do I have to toss a coin to decide who can leave me feedback?
If I am involved in a bukkake session, and there are 5 blokes, does the woman/man at the centre of all this have to arrange 5 different uses of the Shrep system? Or maybe he/she could make it some kind of competition? "Whoever cums first can leave me feedback!"

I'm sorry that particular line needs to be revised - later into the development, we enabled a meeting to be created between multiple users, so it is not limited to just two, those who attended can all leave feedback for one another. Providing your have Shrep enabled, you can enter the Create Meeting section to see for yourself that adding more than one user is possible.
http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/meetings/create/

Quote by two-4-more
If you leave negative feedback is that not technically naming and shaming and so therefor against site rules

I hope this isn't a serious question, however I'll still give an answer. Using Shrep does not come under any scrutiny of the rules, it will be the only section of the site where users can (finally some may say) provide feedback of a meeting.
Was semi-serious... its the one part of the system which is the most open to abuse and cause the most problems for anyone who uses it... have you ever tried to get neg feedback erased on ebay... you get an item delivered late or the wrong size or faulty item mention it and hey presto, no matter how quickly you sent the payment they give you bad feedback in return. As the expression's go, mud sticks, no smoke without fit blah blah blah
Off topic BUT, on Ebay sellers have not been able to leave negative feedback for buyers for about a year now biggrin

Damn, how am i going to complain about the laptop i bought that won't go down on me!
Off topic again, but had some feedback that needed to leave and there was an option to leave neg feedback...

9 Jun 2010

under the page http://www.swingingheaven.co.uk/members/shrep/leave/
ive only had one thing pop up and it was for site shrep, ive had friends tell me that they have it enabled and that bar in on their profile but under that page nothing shows up, its just blank lol

9 Jun 2010

Mike,
same issue that St3ve and developers/admin looking at as impacting a few peeps

9 Jun 2010

Quote by flower411
Off topic again, but had some feedback that needed to leave and there was an option to leave neg feedback...

Not if you were the seller, unless there are still some categories where the seller can leave negative !!! What category did you sell under ?
ahhh i was a buyer lol

9 Jun 2010

ok I have a question .... I've looked in the bumph but cant find it so here goes ...
If you got to a party, club, social, etc and meet someone there who you never arranged to meet, can you come home afterwards and do a meet rep thingy or can you only do it for pre-arranged meets??

9 Jun 2010

Quote by Funlovers2009
ok I have a question .... I've looked in the bumph but cant find it so here goes ...
If you got to a party, club, social, etc and meet someone there who you never arranged to meet, can you come home afterwards and do a meet rep thingy or can you only do it for pre-arranged meets??

oooh planning on doing some shrepping after the wales camping lol
(that said shrepping and not sheeping if anyone misreads :giggle: )

9 Jun 2010

Quote by two-4-more
ok I have a question .... I've looked in the bumph but cant find it so here goes ...
If you got to a party, club, social, etc and meet someone there who you never arranged to meet, can you come home afterwards and do a meet rep thingy or can you only do it for pre-arranged meets??

oooh planning on doing some shrepping after the wales camping lol
(that said shrepping and not sheeping if anyone misreads :giggle: )
errrrmmmm .... possibly, so be nice!! :twisted:

9 Jun 2010

Quote by Funlovers2009
ok I have a question .... I've looked in the bumph but cant find it so here goes ...
If you got to a party, club, social, etc and meet someone there who you never arranged to meet, can you come home afterwards and do a meet rep thingy or can you only do it for pre-arranged meets??

oooh planning on doing some shrepping after the wales camping lol
(that said shrepping and not sheeping if anyone misreads :giggle: )
errrrmmmm .... possibly, so be nice!! :twisted:
we're always nice... but will have to make sure we are extra well behaved then...
:angel:
bolt